Australopithecines aren't "just" apes

[brinny]

AMEN! Preach it sister

Hebrew 4:12 For living the Word of YHWH and in-working/energhV <1756> and keener over every blade/knife/macairan <3162> two-mouthed, and penetrating to parting of soul and of spirit, joints besides and marrows, and judge of feelings and of in-minds/thoughts of heart

i got more my friend

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

i got more my friend

Notice the change I made next to my wanted poster avatar

quote from FSTDT: From what I've seen, LLJ is a bit of a bible-quoting robot. Often he posts things in General Apologetics that are quite off-topic. At least he doesn't call Atheists deluded unlike most Christians. I think that he's too far gone to be saved at this point.

 

[Assyrian]

Was God mistaken? He did not intend to wipe out all of mankind (except for those on the ark)?

Or it could be you misunderstand what the text says. Did the flood wipe out life all over the world, or just in that land? The text can be read either way.

 

[brinny]

Notice the change I made next to my wanted poster avatar

quote from FSTDT: From what I've seen, LLJ is a bit of a bible-quoting robot. Often he posts things in General Apologetics that are quite off-topic. At least he doesn't call Atheists deluded unlike most Christians. I think that he's too far gone to be saved at this point.

LOL

 

[lucaspa]

I look to the living God, the Author of His living Word, that is like a sword, cutting through the marrow and sinew. It records the mind of God.

And did you find "word" capitalized (Word) in that passage. LittleLambofJesus quotes Hebrews 4:12, but he seems to have capitalized "word" where it is not in any of the English translations or in the Greek.

 

[brinny]

And did you find "word" capitalized (Word) in that passage. LittleLambofJesus quotes Hebrews 4:12, but he seems to have capitalized "word" where it is not in any of the English translations or in the Greek.

Are you saying God's Word, the Bible, was not God-breathed?

 

[Chesterton]

This thread is absolute proof of macroevolution. What were we talking about again?

Not only the topic, but brinny's avatar, too. I think it's undergone random mutation 3 or 4 times in the course of this thread!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And did you find "word" capitalized (Word) in that passage. LittleLambofJesus quotes Hebrews 4:12, but he seems to have capitalized "word" where it is not in any of the English translations or in the Greek.

Tis true.
The greek didn't have punctuation or even verses #s. They are all added according to the Translators.
It was a personal preference for me, whether the greek shows it or not

Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Textus Rec.) Hebrews 4:12 zwn gar o logoV tou qeou kai energhV kai tomwteroV uper pasan macairan distomon kai diiknoumenoV acri merismou yuchV te kai pneumatoV armwn te kai muelwn kai kritikoV enqumhsewn kai ennoiwn kardiaV

 

[brinny]

Not only the topic, but brinny's avatar, too. I think it's undergone random mutation 3 or 4 times in the course of this thread!

LOL you passed da test me friend! Just checkin' to see if ya was payin' attention

 

[lucaspa]

interpretation? Whose? Man's? Inexplicably, limited, finite, man? are you serious?

Of course I am serious. Who else is going to interpret the text? Even if you say "the Bible is inerrant" or "the Bible is literal", that is a human interpretation.

Are you seriously going to tell me that God dictated the Bible word for word? That is what Muslims believe about the Quran.

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
interpretation? Whose? Man's? Inexplicably, limited, finite, man? are you serious?

Of course I am serious. Who else is going to interpret the text? Even if you say "the Bible is inerrant" or "the Bible is literal", that is a human interpretation.

Are you seriously going to tell me that God dictated the Bible word for word? That is what Muslims believe about the Quran.

Man is flawed, finite, and but dust. As you are aware, God Himself says that His thoughts are not ours. Surely you are aware of this brother in Christ and son of the most High God? It is also written that the Holy Spirit teaches God's children Himself in understanding, and wisdom and discernment in God's Word. Is this not true?

 

[lucaspa]

Tis true.
The greek didn't have punctuation or even verses #s. They are all added according to the Translators.
It was a personal preference for me, whether the greek shows it or not

Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Textus Rec.) Hebrews 4:12 zwn gar o logoV tou qeou kai energhV kai tomwteroV uper pasan macairan distomon kai diiknoumenoV acri merismou yuchV te kai pneumatoV armwn te kai muelwn kai kritikoV enqumhsewn kai ennoiwn kardiaV

Going to the site you mentioned, let's first look at John 1:1 in the Latin Vulgate:
"1:1 in principio erat Verbum et Verbum erat apud Deum et Deus erat Verbum"

Now let's look at Hebrews 4:12:
"4:12 vivus est enim Dei sermo et efficax et penetrabilior omni gladio ancipiti et pertingens usque ad divisionem animae ac spiritus conpagum quoque et medullarum et discretor cogitationum et intentionum cordis"

The word "Verbum" does not appear at all! Nor is there any capitalization except for "Dei" (God). We have "sermo" which is Latin for "spoken", not the same word used in John 1:1. But you make the English words the same!

 

[Chesterton]

So you can use the bone to overlay muscles on the bones. From the muscles, it is a simple step to adding skin over the muscles and voila! you have the shape of the individual.

These bones were found near "Lucy":



Look what they came up with:

All this is familiar to anyone who has ever watched "Walking with Dinosaurs" or other programs where prehistoric beasts are reconstructed. It is always explained. We simply thought you knew.

I don't know the name, but I saw some TV show where they had a reconstruction graphic artist, and he talked about how his favorite thing about his job was being able to use his imagination to "create" animals from some raw data. It showed him making up some multicolored feathered dinosaur that looked like a Johnny Weir costume. Amazing science.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Going to the site you mentioned, let's first look at John 1:1 in the Latin Vulgate:
"1:1 in principio erat Verbum et Verbum erat apud Deum et Deus erat Verbum"

Now let's look at Hebrews 4:12:
"4:12 vivus est enim Dei sermo et efficax et penetrabilior omni gladio ancipiti et pertingens usque ad divisionem animae ac spiritus conpagum quoque et medullarum et discretor cogitationum et intentionum cordis"

The word "Verbum" does not appear at all! Nor is there any capitalization except for "Dei" (God). We have "sermo" which is Latin for "spoken", not the same word used in John 1:1. But you make the English words the same!

Oh, yes, you really are exercising a "personal preference", aren't you? And making your own private interpretation of scripture in the process that attempts to change Christian theology.

Thank you.

Then tell me why the NKJV capitalizes "word" in Reve 19:13 and not in Hebrews 4. It is the exact form of the greek word used in both verses. Thanks

Search for 'Genesis 1:1' in the version


NKJV) Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God [is] living and powerful

Textus Rec.) Hebrews 4:12 zwn gar o logoV tou qeou

NKJV) Revelation 19:13 He [was] clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Textus Rec.) Revelation 19:13 kai peribeblhmenoV imation bebammenon aimati kai kaleitai to onoma autou o logoV tou qeou

 

[lucaspa]

Man is flawed, finite, and but dust.

And yet God communicates thru Man. Unless you are saying God dictated the Bible word for word. Are you?

As you are aware, God Himself says that His thoughts are not ours.

Which is why we do not get the full story of God, but only what God can reveal to us.

It is also written that the Holy Spirit teaches God's children Himself in understanding, and wisdom and discernment in God's Word. Is this not true?

Which verse are you using? Does the Holy Spirit teach you to capitalize "Word" when referring to scripture? If that is the case, why did not the Holy Spirit tell the early Church Fathers to do the same? Or those King James commissioned to do the King James Version?

When we have a consensus of early Christians and others who translated the Greek into English that says not to capitalize "word" when referring to scripture, but only when referring to Jesus, and then we have you come along and tell us differently, who do you think we are going to believe is exercising a flawed, human interpretation?

 

[brinny]

These bones were found near "Lucy":



Look what they came up with:

I don't know the name, but I saw some TV show where they had a reconstruction graphic artist, and he talked about how his favorite thing about his job was being able to use his imagination to "create" animals from some raw data. It showed him making up some multicolored feathered dinosaur that looked like a Johnny Weir costume. Amazing science.

LOL

 

[troodon]

It showed him making up some multicolored feathered dinosaur that looked like a Johnny Weir costume. Amazing science.

Oh, you mean like the fossils tell us they were?

 

[brinny]

Thank you.

Then tell me why the NKJV capitalizes "word" in Reve 19:13 and not in Hebrews 4. It is the exact form of the greek word used in both verses. Thanks

Search for 'Genesis 1:1' in the version


NKJV) Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God [is] living and powerful

Textus Rec.) Hebrews 4:12 zwn gar o logoV tou qeou

NKJV) Revelation 19:13 He [was] clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Textus Rec.) Revelation 19:13 kai peribeblhmenoV imation bebammenon aimati kai kaleitai to onoma autou o logoV tou qeou

love those Bible verses, straight from the Word of God, that is god-breathed, amen! May Hios name be praised in all the earth!

*starts singing, loudly*

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

love those Bible verses, straight from the Word of God, that is god-breathed, amen! May Hios name be praised in all the earth!

*starts singing, loudly*

Heck, the NKJV even capitalized "The" ehehe

The Word of God.

 

[Chesterton]

Oh, you mean like the fossils tell us they were?

No I mean like someone chooses to interpret the fossils.

Serious question: what is the scientific purpose of such historical reconstructions?