Atheists, Why Do You Believe That Christians Cannot Accept Evolution?

[AV1611VET]

You are using Star Trek as support for your religious faith?

Wow -- solid aurum.

 

[VirOptimus]

Ya ... we've discussed your tag line before, haven't we?

"A nihilist who cares."

I dont know, or care.

It doesnt say I care about everything.

 

[VirOptimus]

Wow -- solid aurum.

I cant help your arguments dont make sense.

 

[AV1611VET]

How do you demonstrate that the object of your faith is real?

I don't.

That's not my job.

That's the Holy Spirit's job.

 

[AV1611VET]

Umm,.. okay,.. well,.. I do like bananas. -__-

I played on the monkey bars as a kid, and my dad used a monkey wrench.

 

[VirOptimus]

I played on the monkey bars as a kid, and my dad used a monkey wrench.

And you are an ape.

 

[April_Rose]

And you are an ape.

Well,.. my first name is April.

 

[Caliban]

I don't.

That's not my job.

That's the Holy Spirit's job.

That is not really a satisfying answer. Why would I think a creator god is real? Wouldn't I already have to be convinced of that before praying to said god. How would the spirit convince me if I didn't first believe?

 

[AV1611VET]

And you are an ape.

Nope.

No Mangani in my family tree.

 

[VirOptimus]

Nope.

No Mangani in my family tree.

You dont get to make up your own definitions.

By definition, you are an animal, an ape.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I'd say there is (arguably) a fourth category - those (like me) who grew up in a religious environment, went to religious schools (Catholic primary, Benedictine Abbey secondary) but for whom religious belief never 'took'. Following all the rituals (praying at meals, praying before bed, etc.), they believed in God as they believed Santa Claus - until it became obviously absurd.

The categories are kind of fuzzy. Your experience doesn't seem all that different from mine, though if you'd asked me about my belief in the basic tenants of the Church I would have honest answered that I did believe, but somewhere in the next five years that ended. (Though I did believe in Santa Clause until I was about 10, so maybe I'm to gullible.) I accepted it as true and fulfilled my weekly and Lenten obligations, but otherwise thought very little about faith and religion. Perhaps things would have been different if I'd been forced to go to Catholic school (shudder). It's possible my rejection of the Church might have been earlier and more visible (my family still doesn't know). The largest doubts I had (before age 25) were from the pre-Confirmation contemplations.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is not really a satisfying answer. Why would I think a creator god is real? Wouldn't I already have to be convinced of that before praying to said god. How would the spirit convince me if I didn't first believe?

Jesus said that, if He was lifted up, He would "draw all men unto himself."

That includes you.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Yes, faith requires an object,

Preferably a Rosary, or St. Christopher medal, or a nice statue of the Virgin Mary. At least that's what my people had...

 

[AV1611VET]

You dont get to make up your own definitions.

I made that up, did I?

LOL ... I'm not Wikipedia.

By definition, you are an animal, an ape.

By definition, which goes by today's standards, yes.

I'm sure that ... by definition ... I was a "fetus" also.

The dictionary can take a hike.

 

[VirOptimus]

I made that up, did I?

LOL ... I'm not Wikipedia.By definition, which goes by today's standards, yes.

I'm sure that ... by definition ... I was a "fetus" also.

The dictionary can take a hike.

I see. You have a war on words.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Some years ago, I came up with this list of evidence for Jesus Christ:

1. Time divided into BC and AD.
2. Organizations such as the Red Cross and Salvation Army.
3. Hospitals built by Christian organizations.
4. Beautiful Christian artwork, edifices, statuary and literature.
5. IN GOD WE TRUST on our coins and UNDER GOD in our pledge of allegiance.
6. The Ten Commandments and other literature displayed in public.
7. Christmas & Easter
8. Symbols on bumper stickers and flags.
9. Public debates in the name of Christianity.
10. Crosses and billboards erected to testify of Jesus Christ.

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

That's only evidence for belief in Jesus Christ.

 

[AV1611VET]

Preferably a Rosary, or St. Christopher medal, or a nice statue of the Virgin Mary. At least that's what my people had...

Are you saying Catholicism is polytheistic?

 

[Caliban]

Jesus said that, if He was lifted up, He would "draw all men unto himself."

That includes you.

What does that mean? "If" he was lifted up? Who is doing the lifting?

From my study of the text, the greek word draw means to drag; is this violating free will--Calvinists think so?

 

[AV1611VET]

That's only evidence for belief in Jesus Christ.

Let's face it.

If Jesus had never existed, would it be AD 2020 right now?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Are you saying Catholicism is polytheistic?

I will not fall for your traps.

Isn't condemning Catholicism you'se guys thing?