I believe in forgiveness, important concept. how do you forgive someone who doesn’t ask for forgiveness?
If they would’ve simply apologized and asked me to return and said they would address it with the usher I would’ve happily returned and continued going to the church.
Issue is they think that’s acceptable for the usher. for security reasons they need to keep the back of the church clear. They place more importance on Security then making people feel welcome. I don’t think they will have problems where emergency personnel unable to get through. completely misplaced priorities to me.
I talked to the head of security at the church as I was leaving. He said he trained the ushers twice a year. He said they wanted to keep the aisle clear for emergency personnel if needed. Most of the ushers are first responders. It was fairly obvious they put Security as more important than anything else.Oh no. Maybe you should find a new church immediately. I love our local church for several reasons. Not only are there activities for children, the adults are made to feel welcome there.
Is it possible to talk to his senior or not? Sounds like the church made a bad decision that could potentially damage their reputation.
I was standing in the back looking for a seat when in usher asked me if I wanted to be seated and I told him I would find one.
The other churches I have attended don’t even use ushers
So sorry this happened to you. Churches can get into trouble with the Fire marshal. For allowing people to congregate by the doors and in the aisles. Because it blocks access in case of an emergency.
It amazes me that churches are now asking people to leave if they do not immediately find a seat. It was dark and I wanted the lights to come on. They turn the lights down for the music portion of their service.
It is an unfortunate sign of the times.
I wish my own congregation did not emphasize security so much, it can damage outreach. And church shootings and disasters are extraordinarily rare. There has to be a balanced response.
Church needs "security" now...?
Oh man, these times we live in, I tell you...
God help us...
God Bless!
I'm Catholic. I've never yet seen a security guard at our church except for a guy hired to watch the school late night. The church is open 24/7/365 for people to come and pray. So there are always people there and always people coming and going.I recently converted to Lutheranism from Catholicism and checked out a few other Protestant churches along the way. The Catholic Churches I went to never had security but all the Protestant churches I visited, including my new church has uniformed police on site. Not sure why.
I'm Catholic. I've never yet seen a security guard at our church except for a guy hired to watch the school late night. The church is open 24/7/365 for people to come and pray. So there are always people there and always people coming and going.
A uniformed guard, that would be creepy. Maybe there have been some plainclothes security I never knew about.
Ah, I forgot. We have uniformed police blocking traffic for us when we have our Eucharistic procession each year. A hundred or so of us walking down neighborhood streets singing. We go from our parish to another nearby one. We get squad cars at the busy streets. But that's all I have ever seen.yeah, I wondered if they’ve had some problems. My former Catholic Church only had uniformed cops directing traffic on Christmas and Easter.
From just your one post, yes.Is it wrong to think that asking people to leave is inappropriate?
A lot of people should be.no one should be asked to leave a church.
I was an usher in my church for 13 years. Keeping the aisles clear in case of an emergency is a serious issue, and something that we were charged with enforcing. I remember I once had to very politely ask a lady to fold her walker and stow it under the pew as she had left it in an aisle where it was blocking traffic.
We also had some pastors for whom people milling around in the back was just a serious personal bugaboo. They would be admonished from the altar to find a seat and sit down. I don't recall having to ever throw anyone out though.
And yes, in recent years, we were all wary of some type of trouble. Terrorists, whacko shooters, Satanists attempting to grab a consecrated host for a Black Mass. I had prepared myself to be ready to tackle somebody and fight them if necessary.
But my #1 job as an usher? Extending my right index finger and saying "Bathrooms? Over there!"
I never left. I’ve been reading the comments periodically. Sadly, comments like yours is why I don’t participate very often. You’re not interested in helping anyone you just want to tear people down.From just your one post, yes.
Just noticed, he left almost a year ago.....
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I cannot disagree with you more. One of the criticisms I hear from people as to why they don’t go to a particular church they didnt feel like the Congregation was welcoming or friendly. When the ushers are asking people to leave who are new to the church it only makes that problem seem bigger.A lot of people should be.
It is better to be asked today, with the hope of learning the truth/ repenting,
instead of being told by Jesus to leave, on Judgment Day.
i.e. look for a true church that does the Father's Word accurately and properly,
as written: seek out those who are FAITHFUL, and remain with them.....
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