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Asked to leave church by an Usher

Discussion in 'Looking for a Church' started by Jeff11, Feb 17, 2019.

  1. Julian of Norwich

    Julian of Norwich AngloCatholic

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    His prayer doesn't ask us to forgive only if the other is penitent, but He says He won't forgive you unless you forgive others.......period.
     
  2. Jeff11

    Jeff11 New Member

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    I can forgive them but I cannot return to that church where they will treat other people the way they treated me. I don’t agree with doing that.
     
  3. Julian of Norwich

    Julian of Norwich AngloCatholic

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    Forgiveness doesn't mean being a doormat. Don't go to that church if you so desire, as long as you forgive all involved (for your own good).
     
  4. ChristianGirl_96

    ChristianGirl_96 Active Member

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    Oh no. Maybe you should find a new church immediately. I love our local church for several reasons. Not only are there activities for children, the adults are made to feel welcome there.
    Is it possible to talk to his senior or not? Sounds like the church made a bad decision that could potentially damage their reputation.
     
  5. Jeff11

    Jeff11 New Member

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    I talked to the head of security at the church as I was leaving. He said he trained the ushers twice a year. He said they wanted to keep the aisle clear for emergency personnel if needed. Most of the ushers are first responders. It was fairly obvious they put Security as more important than anything else.

    He wanted me to go back inside and talk to this usher but I did not want to have a confrontation with this person. I didn’t want to have a discussion in the middle of church with an usher about why he was asking me to leave. He claimed he was going to have him apologize to me but I did not see that happening. instead I expected to be treated the same way again. I could be seated by an usher or leave. I’m not comfortable with that.

    But he refused to address it with the ushers unless I went back in and told him the specific usher. I didn’t want to have a confrontation with this person. So to my knowledge he has never addressed this problem with any of the ushers there. Which is why I won’t go back.
     
  6. BirdBrain27

    BirdBrain27 New Member

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    So sorry this happened to you. Churches can get into trouble with the Fire marshal. For allowing people to congregate by the doors and in the aisles. Because it blocks access in case of an emergency.
     
  7. Radagast

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    In other words, he offered you a seat and you refused (or at least, that's what he thought).

    Ushers are generally used when finding a seat on your own is difficult. For example, in very crowded churches.
     
  8. Radagast

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    The fact that the church was making a big thing of it suggests that they were under pressure from local government on that issue. Training all the ushers as first responders seems a little unusual and sounds like the sort of thing a church might do to avoid being closed down by local government.
     
  9. ProdigalGander

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    I was an usher in my church for 13 years. Keeping the aisles clear in case of an emergency is a serious issue, and something that we were charged with enforcing. I remember I once had to very politely ask a lady to fold her walker and stow it under the pew as she had left it in an aisle where it was blocking traffic.

    We also had some pastors for whom people milling around in the back was just a serious personal bugaboo. They would be admonished from the altar to find a seat and sit down. I don't recall having to ever throw anyone out though.

    And yes, in recent years, we were all wary of some type of trouble. Terrorists, whacko shooters, Satanists attempting to grab a consecrated host for a Black Mass. I had prepared myself to be ready to tackle somebody and fight them if necessary.

    But my #1 job as an usher? Extending my right index finger and saying "Bathrooms? Over there!"
     
  10. Newtheran

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    Perhaps they're concerned about the fire hazard when people break out their lighters and start swaying back and forth?
     
  11. miggles

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    no one should be asked to leave a church.
     
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