You guys are very nice aetheists. You'll fit in fine, but expect people to think your mean until they get to know you a little.
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You guys are very nice aetheists. You'll fit in fine, but expect people to think your mean until they get to know you a little.Because it's obvious that I'm not going to fit in here, I didn't come here for any other reason than to learn more about Christians views, and maybe try to give you a more positive impression of atheists.
But many people believe that God answers prayer and provides conscience and other things. So you think statistically with all the people of faith, not just Christian are imagining it? The answer part, not the asking part.
"Ask away, anything you would like to know, I will do my best to answer"
What is the gas quotient ratio in the third binary reduction chamber within the structural matrix theory?
Why are you being mean?
that's what I figured. It just seems odd that billions of people all think wishfully and think that there is a back and forth type of relationship. Seems to me to be too many for chance.I think that being honest, yes they are imagining it, I would put it down to wishful thinking.
I was born and raised a Christian to missionary parents. I was home schooled, read the whole Bible many times, I had to memorize a lot it, we were always praying and on our "spiritual guard" and all that. I understand for some people some religious beliefs can be comforting. And that is fine, so long as they know it really is just a belief. I wouldn't want to take anyone's comfort away if it helped them and didn't harm anyone else.
However, I care deeply about what is reality or as close as we can get to it. So I cannot accept anything as "real" or "truth" without good evidence for it. But I'm actually happier, at immense peace and more fulfilled and hopeful, than I ever was when I believed I had Jesus and the holy ghost within me. ....
Great response, thank you. I really appreciate this '' I understand for some people some religious beliefs can be comforting. And that is fine, so long as they know it really is just a belief. I wouldn't want to take anyone's comfort away if it helped them and didn't harm anyone else.''I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'd like to also answer. I think most people in unprogressive countries (for example, the Congo, the USA, Saudi Arabia, etc,) feel depressed, anxious, get easily addicted to things and so on, regardless of what they believe or don't believe. It is because of the general horrible society most people endure in these types of places.
I was born and raised a Christian to missionary parents. I was home schooled, read the whole Bible many times, I had to memorize a lot it, we were always praying and on our "spiritual guard" and all that. I understand for some people some religious beliefs can be comforting. And that is fine, so long as they know it really is just a belief. I wouldn't want to take anyone's comfort away if it helped them and didn't harm anyone else.
However, I care deeply about what is reality or as close as we can get to it. So I cannot accept anything as "real" or "truth" without good evidence for it. But I'm actually happier, at immense peace and more fulfilled and hopeful, than I ever was when I believed I had Jesus and the holy ghost within me. Although what one feels is not a good way to determine what is true and what is not. I have no belief in deities because no one can show they actually exist. If that happens, then I will accept whichever god and/or god's are shown to exist. Real easy.
While on a few occasions I am sad there is no perfect afterlife with our loved ones to be rewarded to us (although if you actually read holy books the afterlife talked about in them isn't very great). I am thrilled no one is going to be eternally tortured, punished with a possible ending to it, or in whichever way some writings say they will suffer. We can make heaven on Earth. That is what I try to do. We definitely have here and now.
that's what I figured. It just seems odd that billions of people all think wishfully and think that there is a back and forth type of relationship. Seems to me to be too many for chance.
I quite clearly said 'Many of the atheists I know or follow on social media'' not all atheists. I was (clearly to me) still referring to those friends when I talked about a dog eat dog reality.
I am glad for you that you are happy, dearest. It is fantastic that you do not suffer from morbid sentiments. It is lovely that you have been married for 48 years. I am sure that your wife is a very happy and lucky woman to have such a positive husband, content with the things money cannot buy. As Spikey started a thread inviting us to ask anything I figured he had a fairly thick skin and wasn't going to be easily offended. I had of course forgotten that other atheists might read my question and become offended. I am sorry that I caused you to become upset.
I can understand that looking at logic from the outside.I don't think it's chance that there are so many, I think it's conditioning.
As children we are raised to believe in a God, which God is dependant upon our geographic location and our parents. This worldview is then reinforced at school and out in our wider communities, which means that as a child virtually everyone we trust is giving us the same message. Couple this with the comfort that religion seems to give, and I'm not surprised that so many people think this way.
I can understand that looking at logic from the outside.
But what I am talking about are the spiritual aspects. God’s Word is pretty specific in that we are in relationship with God spiritually. Not just that we believe, attend church once a week and that’s that.
I’m sure you don’t think that any human condioning can hold up if we weren’t getting answers to prayers or when we seek peace that God guides us to that peace.
Jesus told us in scripture right before His death that He would send God Himself the Holy Spirit to reside in the hearts of each of Hos children. That Holy Spirit is real.
It has gone way past the stage with me where I say those Christians are mistaken, I now call it for what it is, lying, pure and simple.
Oh, and one last thing, I am not your "dearest".
God has always given us free will and God doesn’t take away our free will when we become Christians.I would then ask, what about all the Christians who have lost their faith and became atheist? If those people were getting what you describe, how could they then disbelieve?
God has always given us free will and God doesn’t take away our free will when we become Christians.
People still choose whether to seek God and grow in relationship with Him or whether they choose to not hear and not do and go there own way.
Jesus said, ‘Seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened’
Well it’s hard for me to speak for others but I think there are two situations probably going on.But surely, if you believed that you have had a relationship with God, then there can be no way of being an atheist after that point.
Do you think the people I refer to never had a relationship with God in the first place?
Ask away, anything you would like to know, I will do my best to answer
You opened a can of worms mate!
What your political view/stance in general? Would you describe yourself as democratic, liberalist, communist, fascist, nationalist, etc.? I'm not sure how the parliament works in terms of parties, nor if political views are defined within groups like how here in the US is..
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