As a Christian, how many of you believe in evolution?

[Kylie]

Evolution says an ape leaves Boston for L.A. and arrives a human being.

Once again you demonstrate that you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[AV1611VET]

You forgot that humans are apes.

Actually I didn't; but I didn't think it was worth mentioning.

 

[AV1611VET]

Once again you demonstrate that you have no idea what you are talking about.

So nothing in your scenario changes as one walks across the room or the country?

And here I thought distance equaled time, while evolution represented change over time.

 

[ralfyman]

Evolution says an ape leaves Boston for L.A. and arrives a human being.

Evolution involves natural selection, not morphological changes across time.

 

[Kylie]

So nothing in your scenario changes as one walks across the room or the country?

And here I thought distance equaled time, while evolution represented change over time.

Evolution is the walking.

The process used to walk across the room is the same process used to walk across the country, there's just a lot more of it.

Likewise, what you call macroevolution is absolutely identical to the process of what you call microevolution, just to a greater degree.

Now, I know for a fact that this has been explained to you many times, so I have to ask: Why do you keep repeating the same incorrect statements when you know they are wrong?

 

[Terry61]

Any one that objectively examines the evidence and the history, can tell evolution is garbage.

Atavism proves otherwise.

 

[Terry61]

Micro yes...Macro no
Atavism proves otherwise

 

[Terry61]

Atavism proves otherwise.

 

[Kylie]

Any one that objectively examines the evidence and the history, can tell evolution is garbage.

Would you like to clarify this statement? In what way does an objective examination prove evolution is false?

 

[xianghua]

Mostly details on fossil records, but there are more points given here.

can you be more specific? do you have a specific case that prove evolution? also what do you think about my argument here?: the self replicating watch argument

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

I am curious if any Christians believe that evolution occurs (take careful note of the phrase, "evolution occurs" it means if it has happened or will happen, regardless of whether or not humans evolved from other primates). Please take the time to answer, thanks for any responses.


(For full disclosure I am atheist)

** Convenient definition of evolution for those unsure: Evolution is changes in a life form due to mutations in their genetic code, leading to the success or failure (or neither) of the mutation, leading to the mutated creature having more success mating, therefore passing on the improved gene or no success, leading to the gene not being passed on. Or to put it simply, changes in a life form over time. **

Micro yes, MACRO NO, TE pass, no TY.

 

[Shemjaza]

Micro yes, MACRO NO, TE pass, no TY.

In your opinion, where is the barrier that stops micro steps from building up to macro change?

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

In your opinion, where is the barrier that stops micro steps from building up to macro change?

In the extent to which adaptation occurs, the proof would be species in danger of extinction, and species which have ceased to exist. This points to failures of "natural selection". Death and decay, point to devolution.

 

[Rubiks]

Evolution involves natural selection, not morphological changes across time.

Dog breeds don't exist?

 

[xianghua]

In your opinion, where is the barrier that stops micro steps from building up to macro change?

any step that involve a complex trait. so we will never see a creature without an eye evolving an eye for instance.

 

[xianghua]

Ativism proves otherwise.

do you have a specific case?

 

[Speedwell]

any step that involve a complex trait. so we will never see a creature without an eye evolving an eye for instance.

Why not? The interacting stochastic processes which make up the biosphere have more than sufficient information-processing capacity to create that kind of complexity.

 

[xianghua]

Why not?

becbause even according to evolution we cant get an eye in real time. its too complex to evolve in a real time.

 

[Speedwell]

becbause even according to evolution we cant get an eye in real time. its too complex to evolve in a real time.

The theory of evolution says that? Where?

 

[Subduction Zone]

In the extent to which adaptation occurs, the proof would be species in danger of extinction, and species which have ceased to exist. This points to failures of "natural selection". Death and decay, point to devolution.

That is rather meaningless and does not give us a limit. We don't see such a limit in nature. Extinctiion occurs when changes in the environment are too rapid for a population to evolve to adapt, not when too many changes build up.