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Artistic expressions thread

Discussion in 'Depression Disorders' started by teresa, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. alsughasoughaiuyfygh

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  2. teresa

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    @Wayholka can you make a picture of you outside enjoying sunshine?
     
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    Thank you! I guess joy would be having a purpose in life. I recently graduated college so I'm at a transition point in my life so I'm still trying to figure things out.
     
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    Ah yes, that is a familiar struggle. Can you draw or express that transition in a poem like you did above?

    Is it an image or a painting?
     
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    When in transition, it often felt like I was in a storm, and was turning my face to G-d in the mist of the darkness and the clouds, looking for the sun, searching, seeking, talking to Him, crying out to HIm to show me the way- ws_Fantasy_girl_-_Night_sky_1280x1024.jpg

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    An old favourite of mine;


    An invitation to The Chosen.

    God's Love will not take or will
    you to conform to rules or demand
    which imprison, enslave, burn or kill you.

    God's Love will not pervert what's Good
    The Lord loves truthfully Wise and Good.
    True Love was, is and always will be Good!

    In God's Love you are free to be right!
    In His love everything is good proper and kind.
    He loves all who love good and true to rule!

    His Love is caring, providing, and sharing.
    His Love always enjoys and protects good life.
    His love rules even when bad life has being in us!

    Hear Jesus call - 'Come join up with us all!
    Leave whatever ties you down and be free
    loving good life with all God's own to be.'

    To the rest in your heart God's asks
    how long will you tarry in the darkness?
    Please leave such bad existence within.

    For life must not, no never should, or would, or could,
    be forceful, rude, prideful, arrogant, selfish, lustful
    or otherwise be untrue to God's loving truth.

    Neither should life be hurting or ill,
    hungry, oppressed, despised, hated
    or otherwise have existence in wrong.

    Please hand your Bad Life over to Jesus
    Humbly ask for His Good Life back in return
    and go love God, self and neighbour with Joy.

    The Church knows that Jesus is coming soon
    All bad life will be our shameful past then,
    so please leave your bad life while you can!

    Love

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    A reflection on my all time favourite times.


    Song of Solomon 1:4 Take me away with you—let us hurry!
    Let the king bring me into his chambers.


    Love Making.

    My love removes what has no desire or need,
    To bare to the passions of embracing His Love,
    Pure ecstasy as His Love releases The Seed,
    Love making conceives Heavenly bliss from above.

    My love carrying what His Good Loving has Sown,
    Awaiting the time of delivery to be done,
    Our Heavenly Dad to give a child of His own,
    Hear the Angels adore Him who gave us The Son.

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    @wow, Jeshu that is impressive!
     
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    1 Timothy 2:15
    "Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety."

    Puts a very healthy perspective on this verse, which the Christian religious leaders have often misunderstood throughout history to the detriment of women in my opinion. (As a matter of fact if Paul is not talking spiritually in the verse below he contradicts Galatians 3:28 where he says that there is neither male nor female in Christ.)

    It also confirms what our Lord says in Matthew 12:50

    "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."

    And John saw in Revelation 12:1-2

    And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.



    And was an answer to my plea which i captivated in this poem at the time.

    My Lord, My Husband.

    My Lord with bowed head I stand before you,
    I'm not worthy to be called your wife.
    For I have been very unfaithful
    and deserted you for many years.

    I'm so sorry Lord that I've been untrue
    been unkind, rebellious and temperamental
    In The End betraying You for the other one
    that cruel liar and deceiver, that Beast.

    Yet You rescued me from that tyrant
    Hid me in the desert until I grew free
    Taught me tenderly what true love was
    and gave me back my dignity.

    I wanted to thank you dear husband
    from the bottom of my heart
    for accepted my other children
    those not conceived from your seed.

    I'm so grateful You sorted them out for me
    for a rebellious kindred they've surely been
    Yet Your awesome love won them all
    freeing me from having to control them.

    And now my Lord, my husband so dear.
    I feel almost embarrassed asking you this
    My Lord, if..if I have found favour in Your sight,
    then please, please let me know You...

    ...Oh Jesus, a wonderful husband you will always be,
    please let me be Your ever faithfully loving wife,
    the seeds of your Love fill me, time and again
    your offspring making me enlarge my tent.

     
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    @Jeshu by any chance are you and the wife hoping to be pregnant?

    What inspired you to address this issue today?
     
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    Your comment that that my poem on love making was impressive is what sparked my thoughts back over the years and how The Word has taught me to understand Him to work within my dwelling place. How to explain all that in one session I don't know but I'll try and share with you how child bearing became my predominant focus/love in/of my life.

    To be sure I was always jealous of my wife during the times she carried our children. (we have four natural children and adopted our fifth one.) It has been a dream of mine to be able to do that as well for many years. Sure not some trans sexual thing, but much more the awesomeness of being allowed to make and carry new life - this has always fascinated me - and the most beautiful demonstration of a good looking woman to me is one who is late term pregnant - simply love that swollen blessed look. Always have!

    1 Timothy 2:11-15

    A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing – if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

    However this Word has been an eyesore for many years when it came to my love for God's word. I couldn't understand why the bible was so sexist or so I thought at the time - knowing a little history and seeing how women were still treated in my church and how i myself also was raised to treat them. A bit confusing to say the least when Paul also claimed there was no difference between male and female in Christ. For a long time I was convinced some tyrant of a church leader must have added it, but knowing John's warning in Revelation 22 I dared not take it out.

    The Jesus came to the rescue!!!

    He explained how in my sinful flesh I signified a woman, indeed that i was the offspring of prostitutes and fornicators and as such had no rights whatsoever to see myself as someone among the sons of God.

    For the son of God came first in me - we are all born sons of God when it comes to that - and out of his physical reality in me came her reality - my self in physical self - and like we all know to be true from the story - in The Word as well as in our book of life - (the two witnesses of Revelation 11 in us,) it is in her we fall for sin, and just as Paul drives home in the above, not otherwise.

    Once this awareness in me began to grow I began to see the difference between female and male spirituality but I have to admit it took a long time to really become clear how bad sin truly was in me before I understood the significance of The Word's animosity towards the feminine down here.

    These Words droves this message home to me

    Zechariah 5

    I looked again, and there before me was a flying scroll.

    He asked me, ‘What do you see?’

    I answered, ‘I see a flying scroll, twenty cubits long and ten cubits wide.’


    And he said to me, ‘This is the curse that is going out over the whole land; for according to what it says on one side, every thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished. The Lord Almighty declares, “I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.”’



    Then the angel who was speaking to me came forward and said to me, ‘Look up and see what is appearing.’


    I asked, ‘What is it?’

    He replied, ‘It is a basket.’ And he added, ‘This is the iniquity of the people throughout the land.’


    Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat a woman! 8 He said, ‘This is wickedness,’ and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed its lead cover down on it.


    Then I looked up – and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.


    ‘Where are they taking the basket?’ I asked the angel who was speaking to me.


    He replied, ‘To the country of Babylonia to build a house for it. When the house is ready, the basket will be set there in its place.’



    It wasn't until I met The Word here in my life that I finally understood Revelation 17 and where the whore in flesh - my life in and with unfaithful love - was hiding within my existential reality and all her children.

    I don't know if you know the story but this is what my lot was in her. When Jesus exposed her ruling my sinful as well as my religious life.

    Revelation 17:15-18
    Then the angel said to me, ‘The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.’


    It was when her power over me died that I wrote the poem My Lord and Husband and swore to be the fruitful wife of Isaiah 54 and no longer the unfaithful wife of Hosea.

    I have been pregnant ever since (I'm crying my joy telling you this, ) for brothers and sisters everywhere ought to understand that Revelation 17:15-18 is utter desolation when suffered on the wrong side of The Word and I had missed Jesus' warning in Matthew 24:15-21 altogether thinking I was saved because i believed in Jesus even though I was unfaithful to His love command every day!

    However The Word came to my rescue in my desolation like always and gave me vision and perspective like never before. Such a great prophecy to be within -and which keeps coming true every day again no matter how I must battle my enemies I know ruler ship comes to the Daughters of Zion through child bearing God's sons into my existence and no other way and very happy to desire my Husband let me assure you, He is Greatest of Lovers. Hallelujah!

    Isaiah 54
    ‘Sing, barren woman,
    you who never bore a child;
    burst into song, shout for joy,
    you who were never in labour;
    because more are the children of the desolate woman
    than of her who has a husband,’
    says the Lord.
    ‘Enlarge the place of your tent,
    stretch your tent curtains wide,
    do not hold back;
    lengthen your cords,
    strengthen your stakes.
    For you will spread out to the right and to the left;
    your descendants will dispossess nations
    and settle in their desolate cities.


    ‘Do not be afraid; you will not be put to shame.
    Do not fear disgrace; you will not be humiliated.
    You will forget the shame of your youth
    and remember no more the reproach of your widowhood.
    For your Maker is your husband –
    the Lord Almighty is his name –
    the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
    he is called the God of all the earth.
    The Lord will call you back
    as if you were a wife deserted and distressed in spirit –
    a wife who married young,
    only to be rejected,’ says your God.
    ‘For a brief moment I abandoned you,
    but with deep compassion I will bring you back.
    In a surge of anger
    I hid my face from you for a moment,
    but with everlasting kindness
    I will have compassion on you,’
    says the Lord your Redeemer.


    ‘To me this is like the days of Noah,
    when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth.
    So now I have sworn not to be angry with you,
    never to rebuke you again.
    Though the mountains be shaken
    and the hills be removed,
    yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken
    nor my covenant of peace be removed,’
    says the Lord, who has compassion on you.


    ‘Afflicted city, lashed by storms and not comforted,
    I will rebuild you with stones of turquoise,
    your foundations with lapis lazuli.
    I will make your battlements of rubies,
    your gates of sparkling jewels,
    and all your walls of precious stones.
    All your children will be taught by the Lord,
    and great will be their peace.
    In righteousness you will be established:
    tyranny will be far from you;
    you will have nothing to fear.
    Terror will be far removed;
    it will not come near you.
    If anyone does attack you, it will not be my doing;
    whoever attacks you will surrender to you.


    ‘See, it is I who created the blacksmith
    who fans the coals into flame
    and forges a weapon fit for its work.
    And it is I who have created the destroyer to wreak havoc;
    no weapon forged against you will prevail,
    and you will refute every tongue that accuses you.
    This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord,
    and this is their vindication from me,’
    declares the Lord.



    I hope I made a little sense - most people declare me mad when they hear how i read the word but i swear by Him He is greatest dining on when it comes down to it.

    Revelation 9:9-10
    So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, ‘Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but “in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.”’
    I took the little scroll from the angel’s hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour.



    Talk about the possibility of artistic expression - unbelievable!

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    I think I will, thanks.
     
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    Absolutely! Expression helps to release pent up emotional energy and to tell others how we really feel when sometimes regular words don't cut it.

    Have any of you carried your emotions all locked up inside until you felt you would explode?
     
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    @Wayholka, your words are brilliant and so insightful

    can we mix science and art?
     
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    I reckon the very best art is when the artist took spirituality, science/proven knowledge, religion and psychology, her story, his story, young, old, healthy, ill, and above all our respective cultures and education into account when we ponder our humanity down here.

    like Brazil’s street artist Paulo Ito's painting for example
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    Yes I have really stuffed up badly dealing with my emotions, not only because child hood trauma which made my emotions often run a muck, but also because my mum and dad were from the old school and we were taught as kids that feelings didn't matter and that only obedience to social and religious rules were important. Also my dad would scorn me when I cried as a kid, for men don't cry or show emotions, especially not 'wrong ones,' still struggling to correct all of that even now.
     
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    @Wayholka, Anyone tell you lately that you are a brilliant young man?

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