Armegeddon/Gog-Magog same event?

[vinsight4u]

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[LittleLambofJesus]

There will be a time of Israel dwells without walls -after Armageddon. Israel will, during that safety time, gather goods, that Gog will later steal. After this time is when the 1000 years will start and Satan gets bound for those years.

full vials near their end of their second pouring
Armageddon
Israel dwels safely/gathers goods
Gog comes and plunders those goods.

Satan is bound.
1000 years reign of Jesus Christ with His saints

Gog comes to Israel.

Thank you for your input

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[brinny]

to be honest, they both confuses me

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

to be honest, they both confuses me

Howdy sis. It was also brought up on this other thread concerning "synagogue", which I felt was rather interesting concerning the greek word used for it.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7652857/#post60402412
Who are the people who say they are Jews but are not?

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Good thread! Bump.........

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[PureDose]

What are others views of the "armegeddon/gog-magog in Revelation.

I and some others are of the view they are 1 and the same event, since the Bible only mentiones 1 Great Day of the Lord God Almighty.

I would like to expound on these 2 verses as this thread progresses. Thank you

Reve 16:16 And he together-assembles/leads/sun-agagein <4863> (5629) them into the Place, the being called to Hebrew Armageddwn

Reve 20:8 And he shall be coming out to deceive the Nations, the in the four corners of the land, the Gog and the Magog, together-assembles/leads/sun-agagein <4863> (5629) them into the Battle of which the Number as the Sand of the Sea. [Reve 16:14]

The Seventh Trumpet is the same thing as "the last trumpet" and it is when Jesus returns. The Second Coming of Christ.


To this day, this age is the age of wickedness and the age of Satan, where Satan remains the prince of this world -- that is what I believe.

I do not believe - at all - that Jesus has returned in secret and the Age to Come has come secretly.

 

[KJV1611Warrior]

Again.....I thank you for your view......I myself of course disagree. Any others?

I am undecided as to whether they are the same event, however, I don't think that Gog and Magog of Ezekiel is the same as the Gog Magog in Rev at the end of the Millennial reign of Christ Jesus the LORD because in Ezekiel the temple follows the battle and there is a huge clean up effort. The Gog battle in Revelation is followed by eternity, the NEW heavens and NEW earth.

 

[GenevieveM]

Gog-magog is the massive invasion that God stops before Israel is hurt, and is the beginning of the time of wrath. It is the "head wound" of the beast and is the excuse the false prophet uses to convince people of the beast's divinity.

Ezek 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.


Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast


Armageddon is a war where the armies of heaven destroy the beast/false prophet in the lake of fire and their armies. It occurs at the end of the time of wrath.

The mention of Gog/magog in Revelation 20 shows that there is a resurgence of the same forces at the end of the millennium, led by the newly-released-from-the-abyss devil, with a similar result.

 

[KJV1611Warrior]

Gog-magog is the massive invasion that God stops before Israel is hurt, and is the beginning of the time of wrath. It is the "head wound" of the beast and is the excuse the false prophet uses to convince people of the beast's divinity.

Ezek 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.


Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast


Armageddon is a war where the armies of heaven destroy the beast/false prophet in the lake of fire and their armies. It occurs at the end of the time of wrath.

The mention of Gog/magog in Revelation 20 shows that there is a resurgence of the same forces at the end of the millennium, led by the newly-released-from-the-abyss devil, with a similar result.

Now that sounds reasonable.

 

[GenevieveM]

Now that sounds reasonable.

God Rules!

 

[ephesians4:2]

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by GenevieveM
Gog-magog is the massive invasion that God stops before Israel is hurt, and is the beginning of the time of wrath. It is the "head wound" of the beast and is the excuse the false prophet uses to convince people of the beast's divinity.

Armageddon is a war where the armies of heaven destroy the beast/false prophet in the lake of fire and their armies.
It occurs at the end of the time of wrath.

The mention of Gog/magog in Revelation 20 shows that there is a resurgence of the same forces at the end of the millennium, led by the newly-released-from-the-abyss devil, with a similar result.

Now that sounds reasonable.

Not really.
The NT of the Bible only mentions ONE great day of the LORD, not TWO!

2Pe 3:10 and it will come -- the day of the Lord -- as a thief in the night, in which the heavens with a rushing noise will pass away
and the elements with burning heat be dissolved and land and the works in it shall be burnt up.

Rev 16:14 for they are spirits of demons, doing signs -- which go forth unto the kings of the earth, and of the whole world,
to bring them together to the battle of that great day of God the Almighty; --

 

[MariaRegina]

Not really.
The NT of the Bible only mentions ONE great day of the LORD, not TWO!

Exactly. There is no "Left Behind" rapture.

Christ will come as a thief in the night. Those who have died will rise first, and then those of us who are still alive will rise to be judged.

 

[AV1611VET]

... and so shall we ever be with the Lord!

 

[Victory of the Cross]

Going to be in the minority here I know, but I don't believe revelations or Ezekiel are authentic.

Revelations I feel contradicts the Gospel of Jesus and the Father he revealed to us.
Ezekiel has either been severely corrupted/maliciously edited or is a false book of prophecy, as several prophecies from it never came true and even reverse happened.

 

[George95]

I know that in The End, God has a place for me!

 

[zeke37]

Gog-magog is the massive invasion that God stops before Israel is hurt, and is the beginning of the time of wrath. It is the "head wound" of the beast and is the excuse the false prophet uses to convince people of the beast's divinity.

Ezek 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.


Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast


Armageddon is a war where the armies of heaven destroy the beast/false prophet in the lake of fire and their armies. It occurs at the end of the time of wrath.

hi

the tribulation period, however long it is, is not the wrath of God.
it's Satan's wrath, that God allows (Rev12)

the wrath of God begins at the time of the dead (the Resurrection), in Rev11.
in Rev18, Babylon must fall first, before the plagues come.
in Rev19, Christ is Coming here, from heaven, and He has with Him the wrath of God

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

Not really.
The NT of the Bible only mentions ONE great day of the LORD, not TWO!

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Exactly. There is no "Left Behind" rapture.

Christ will come as a thief in the night. Those who have died will rise first, and then those of us who are still alive will rise to be judged.

That is my view also




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[shturt678]

After Rev.11:7-13 is complete, ie, hasn't occurred quite yet, then Satan loosed, also soon, then all the forces of Sin and Carnality in/out of the physical churches that slay her inner life, are the 'God and Magog' of Ezekiel and John according to the older so called out-dated works translated over from high-German to English. Just ol' old non-modern Lutheran Jack putting in for the position of latrine cleaner in heaven. Hope hell if too full and no room for me and position still open in heaven?

 

[LastSeven]

Going to be in the minority here I know, but I don't believe revelations or Ezekiel are authentic.

Revelations I feel contradicts the Gospel of Jesus and the Father he revealed to us.
Ezekiel has either been severely corrupted/maliciously edited or is a false book of prophecy, as several prophecies from it never came true and even reverse happened.

Have you considered that maybe these books don't seem to jive with the rest is that you are simply misunderstanding them? Ezekiel's temple for example is not a prophecy of a physical temple, but a description of the blueprint of salvation.

And how is it that you feel Revelation contradicts the gospel?