Are non-Jewish Christians commanded to keep the 7th Day Sabbath

[SabbathBlessings]

I was aware of that, thanks. And my personal belief is that we were originally designed to be vegetarians, perhaps even vegans.

But my question was regarding religious law, not lifestyle. There's more to the Mosaic Law than the avoidance of pork and shellfish. When a member takes the baptismal vow, does "unclean foods" refer to only pork and shellfish, or to anything that's not kosher?

Are you referring to the blood in the meat etc.?

 

[ChetSinger]

Are you referring to the blood in the meat etc.?

Yes, along with the other Mosaic avoidances such as certain cuts of beef, injured animals, mixing meat and dairy, etc. Are such things considered unclean in the baptismal vow?

 

[Der Alte]

Jesus answers your first questions and clears up any confusion who the Sabbath was made for Mark 2:27
Maybe you missed this response from @LoveGodsWord who gives a detailed explanation on the widely misinterpreted Acts 15 * * *

Wrong premise.
Wrong summary.
Wrong conclusion.
In your note to Acts 15:2 you used "weather" instead of "whether."
Now let us review Acts 15 without a the SDA bias.
The Sabbath is mentioned 60 times in the NT but it is never mentioned in Acts through Revelation, in the writings specifically for gentile Christians.
Here are all the commandments specifically for gentile Christians. See e.g. Acts 15:1, 5, 1, 20-22, 15:24, 28:29-28, 21:24-26.

Acts 15:1
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.​

The only requirement in this vs. is circumcision, nothing about the Sabbath.

Acts 15:5
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.​

The requirements stated in this vs. are “circumcision” and “keep the law of Moses.” Which would be difficult unless they were also given the law of Moses. No record that gentile Christians were ever provided with copies of Old Testament law.

Acts 15:10
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?​

Here Paul, a Jew, refers to the requirements of the Pharisees as "a yoke upon the neck of the disciples that the fathers were not able to bear."

Acts 15:20-21
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.​

The disciples listed only four requirements for gentile proselytes "abstain from pollutions of idols, fornication, things strangled and from blood."
No mention of Sabbath keeping. And note, vs. 21 does not mean the proselytes would be attending synagogues. Paul is certainly not so confused that he would call obeying the law of Moses a yoke that even the Jews could not bear and then a few sentences later say gentiles must attend synagogues where the Jews would be enforcing those very laws.

Acts 15:24
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:​

Note Paul says they gave no such commandment i.e. "You must be circumcised, and keep the law."

Acts 15:28-29
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.​

These four only requirements are stated twice but there is no command for gentiles to keep the Sabbath? Paul, Barnabas, Judas Barsabas and Silas, said "no greater burden than these [four only] necessary things." No Sabbath command.

Acts 21:24-25
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.​

vs.24 Paul preparing to take the Nazarite vow, vs. 24-25 "you [Paul] yourself walk orderly, and keep the law. Concerning the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing," i.e. "keep the law."
And they repeat the four only requirements for gentiles "save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication." Note, again only four requirements for gentiles and again there is no mention of Sabbath keeping for gentiles.
Because it is so lengthy the next post from, the Jewish Encyclopedia showing the historic Jewish attitude about gentiles, the law and the Sabbath.

 

[Der Alte]

People here argue that gentiles regularly attended synagogues and learned Torah. Here from the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Jewish Encyclopedia – Gentile
Resh Laḳish (d. 278) said, "A Gentile observing the Sabbath deserves death" (Sanh. 58b). This refers to a Gentile who accepted the seven laws of the Noachidæ, inasmuch as "the Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel alone,"
Simon ben Yoḥai is preeminently the anti-Gentile teacher. In a collection of three sayings of his, beginning with the keyword

(Yer. Ḳid. 66c; Massek. Soferim xv. 10; Mek., Beshal-laḥ, 27a; Tan., Wayera, ed. Buber, 20), is found the expression, often quoted by anti-Semites, "Ṭob shebe-goyyim harog" (="The best among the Gentiles deserves to be killed").
Assi is the author of the injunction not to instruct the Gentile in the Torah (Ḥag. 13a).
The Torah outlawed the issue of a Gentile as that of a beast" (Miḳ. viii. 4, referring to Ezek. l.c.)
Inasmuch as the Jews had their own distinct jurisdiction, it would have been unwise to reveal their laws to the Gentiles, for such knowledge might have operated against the Jews in their opponents' courts. Hence the Talmud prohibited the teaching to a Gentile of the Torah, "the inheritance of the congregation of Jacob" (Deut. xxxiii. 4). R. Johanan says of one so teaching: "Such a person deserves death" (an idiom used to express indignation).
According to R. Eliezer, the maxim "Love, benevolence ["ḥesed"] exalteth a nation" refers to Israel; while whatever charity the Gentiles practise is really sinful, the motive being self-glorification. Joshua is of the same opinion, alleging that whatever charitable action the Gentiles do is done to extend their kingdom. Gamaliel also expresses himself to the same effect, adding that the Gentiles, by their impure motive, incur the penalty of Gehenna. Eleazar of Modi'im sides with him, saying that "the Gentiles practise benevolence merely to taunt Israel."
Gamaliel is credited with the same opinion in B. B. 10b). The persecutions which, at the instigation of Judæo-Christians, Eliezer had suffered at the hands of the Romans may explain his attitude, as well as his opinion that the Gentiles have no share in the life to come (Tosef., Sanh. xiii. 2; Sanh. 105a).
Simon ben Jose likens Israel to a stone, and the Gentiles to a potsherd (Isa. xxx. 14), applying the proverb: "If the stone falls on the pot, wo to the pot; if the pot falls on the stone, wo to the pot."
"not even on Mondays [is the Gentile allowed to rest]"; intimating that the mandate given to the Noachidæ that "day and night shall not cease" (

="have no rest ") should be taken in a literal sense (Gen. viii. 22)

GENTILE - JewishEncyclopedia.com​

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yes, along with the other Mosaic avoidances such as certain cuts of beef, injured animals, mixing meat and dairy, etc. Are such things included in the baptismal vow?

Wrong premise.
Wrong summary.
Wrong conclusion.
In your note to Acts 15:2 you used "weather" instead of "whether."
Now let us review Acts 15 without a the SDA bias.
The Sabbath is mentioned 60 times in the NT but it is never mentioned in Acts through Revelation, in the writings specifically for gentile Christians.
Here are all the commandments specifically for gentile Christians. See e.g. Acts 15:1, 5, 1, 20-22, 15:24, 28:29-28, 21:24-26.

Acts 15:1
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.​

The only requirement in this vs. is circumcision, nothing about the Sabbath.

Acts 15:5
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.​

The requirements stated in this vs. are “circumcision” and “keep the law of Moses.” Which would be difficult unless they were also given the law of Moses. No record that gentile Christians were ever provided with copies of Old Testament law.

Acts 15:10
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?​

Here Paul, a Jew, refers to the requirements of the Pharisees as "a yoke upon the neck of the disciples that the fathers were not able to bear."

Acts 15:20-21
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.​

The disciples listed only four requirements for gentile proselytes "abstain from pollutions of idols, fornication, things strangled and from blood."
No mention of Sabbath keeping. And note, vs. 21 does not mean the proselytes would be attending synagogues. Paul is certainly not so confused that he would call obeying the law of Moses a yoke that even the Jews could not bear and then a few sentences later say gentiles must attend synagogues where the Jews would be enforcing those very laws.

Acts 15:24
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:​

Note Paul says they gave no such commandment i.e. "You must be circumcised, and keep the law."

Acts 15:28-29
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.​

These four only requirements are stated twice but there is no command for gentiles to keep the Sabbath? Paul, Barnabas, Judas Barsabas and Silas, said "no greater burden than these [four only] necessary things." No Sabbath command.

Acts 21:24-25
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.​

vs.24 Paul preparing to take the Nazarite vow, vs. 24-25 "you [Paul] yourself walk orderly, and keep the law. Concerning the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing," i.e. "keep the law."
And they repeat the four only requirements for gentiles "save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication." Note, again only four requirements for gentiles and again there is no mention of Sabbath keeping for gentiles.
Because it is so lengthy the next post from, the Jewish Encyclopedia showing the historic Jewish attitude about gentiles, the law and the Sabbath.

Weird the disciples would be preaching to gentiles on the Sabbath if they said it didn't matter.

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
- Acts 17:2

In heaven the Sabbath continues for ALL FLESH as promised by our Savior as His day of worship. Isaiah 66:23

 

[Der Alte]

Weird the disciples would be preaching to gentiles on the Sabbath if they said it didn't matter.
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.
And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
- Acts 17:2
In heaven the Sabbath continues for ALL FLESH as promised by our Savior as His day of worship. Isaiah 66:23

Isa 66:23 means "week to week" and "month to month!"
One verse does not show that gentile Christians regularly attended synagogues.
You simply ignored virtually everything I posted.
Paul was certainly not so confused that he would call obeying the law of Moses a yoke that even the Jews could not bear and then a few sentences later say gentiles must attend synagogues where the Jews would be enforcing those very laws.
From Acts to the end of Revelation Sabbath is never mentioned. And there is no mention that gentile Christians ever heard the OT. And Jesus did not seem to know that gentiles would regularly attend synagogues with Jews. Who is right you or Jesus?

Matthew 10:17-18
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
Mark 13:9
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
Luke 21:12
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
John 16:2-3
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.​

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yes, along with the other Mosaic avoidances such as certain cuts of beef, injured animals, mixing meat and dairy, etc. Are such things considered unclean in the baptismal vow?

I think it's wise to always follow God's health and sanitary guidelines. He is our Creator and knows what is best for us and our bodies are the temples for the Holy Spirit so keeping them pure is very important.

Here are the baptism vows:

1. Do you believe there is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three coeternal Persons?

2. Do you accept the death of Jesus Christ on Calvary as the atoning sacrifice for your sins and believe that by God’s grace through faith in His shed blood you are saved from sin and its penalty?

3. Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Savior, believing that God, in Christ, has forgiven your sins and given you a new heart, and do you renounce the sinful ways of the world?

4. Do you accept by faith the righteousness of Christ, your Intercessor in the heavenly sanctuary, and accept His promise of transforming grace and power to live a loving, Christ-centered life in your home and before the world?

5. Do you believe that the Bible is God’s inspired Word, the only rule of faith and practice for the Christian? Do you covenant to spend time regularly in prayer and Bible study?

6. Do you accept the Ten Commandments as a transcript of the character of God and a revelation of His will? Is it your purpose by the power of the indwelling Christ to keep this law, including the fourth commandment, which requires the observance of the seventh day of the week as the Sabbath of the Lord and the memorial of Creation?

7. Do you look forward to the soon coming of Jesus and the blessed hope, when “this mortal shall . . . put on immortality” [1 Cor. 15:54, KJV]? As you prepare to meet the Lord, will you witness to His loving salvation by using your talents in personal soul-winning endeavor to help others to be ready for His glorious appearing?

8. Do you accept the biblical teaching of spiritual gifts and believe that the gift of prophecy is one of the identifying marks of the remnant church? 9. Do you believe in Church organization? Is it your purpose to worship God and to support the Church through your tithes and offerings and by your personal effort and influence?

10. Do you believe that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit; and will you honor God by caring for it, avoiding the use of that which is harmful, and abstaining from all unclean foods; from the use, manufacture, or sale of alcoholic beverages; from the use, manufacture, or sale of tobacco in any of its forms for human consumption; and from the misuse of or trafficking in narcotics or other drugs?

11. Do you know and understand the fundamental Bible principles as taught by the Seventh-day Adventist Church? Do you purpose, by the grace of God, to fulfill His will by ordering your life in harmony with these principles?

12. Do you accept the New Testament teaching of baptism by immersion and desire to be so baptized as a public expression of faith in Christ and His forgiveness of your sins?

13. Do you accept and believe that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is the remnant church of Bible prophecy and that people of every nation, race, and language are invited and accepted into its fellowship? Do you desire to be a member of this local congregation of the world Church?

 

[ChetSinger]

I think it's wise to always follow God's heath and sanitary guidelines. He is our Creator and knows what is best for us and our bodies are the temples for the Holy Spirit so keeping them pure is very important.

Here are the baptism vows:

1. Do you believe there is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three coeternal Persons?

2. Do you accept the death of Jesus Christ on Calvary as the atoning sacrifice for your sins and believe that by God’s grace through faith in His shed blood you are saved from sin and its penalty?

3. Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Savior, believing that God, in Christ, has forgiven your sins and given you a new heart, and do you renounce the sinful ways of the world?

4. Do you accept by faith the righteousness of Christ, your Intercessor in the heavenly sanctuary, and accept His promise of transforming grace and power to live a loving, Christ-centered life in your home and before the world?

5. Do you believe that the Bible is God’s inspired Word, the only rule of faith and practice for the Christian? Do you covenant to spend time regularly in prayer and Bible study?

6. Do you accept the Ten Commandments as a transcript of the character of God and a revelation of His will? Is it your purpose by the power of the indwelling Christ to keep this law, including the fourth commandment, which requires the observance of the seventh day of the week as the Sabbath of the Lord and the memorial of Creation?

7. Do you look forward to the soon coming of Jesus and the blessed hope, when “this mortal shall . . . put on immortality” [1 Cor. 15:54, KJV]? As you prepare to meet the Lord, will you witness to His loving salvation by using your talents in personal soul-winning endeavor to help others to be ready for His glorious appearing?

8. Do you accept the biblical teaching of spiritual gifts and believe that the gift of prophecy is one of the identifying marks of the remnant church? 9. Do you believe in Church organization? Is it your purpose to worship God and to support the Church through your tithes and offerings and by your personal effort and influence?

10. Do you believe that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit; and will you honor God by caring for it, avoiding the use of that which is harmful, and abstaining from all unclean foods; from the use, manufacture, or sale of alcoholic beverages; from the use, manufacture, or sale of tobacco in any of its forms for human consumption; and from the misuse of or trafficking in narcotics or other drugs?

11. Do you know and understand the fundamental Bible principles as taught by the Seventh-day Adventist Church? Do you purpose, by the grace of God, to fulfill His will by ordering your life in harmony with these principles?

12. Do you accept the New Testament teaching of baptism by immersion and desire to be so baptized as a public expression of faith in Christ and His forgiveness of your sins?

13. Do you accept and believe that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is the remnant church of Bible prophecy and that people of every nation, race, and language are invited and accepted into its fellowship? Do you desire to be a member of this local congregation of the world Church?

Thanks again. My curiosity is about #10: do "all unclean foods" include everything that the Mosaic Law considers non-kosher? Or just some things, like pork and shellfish?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Wrong premise.

The Sabbath is mentioned 60 times in the NT but it is never mentioned in Acts through Revelation, in the writings specifically for gentile Christians.

This is where you are mistaken and if you are not part of the New Covenant God made with Israel you are not part of the promises. You can't take only part of the covenant you want. According to scripture there is no more Jew or Gentile, we are all one under Christ. Ignoring these scriptures do not make them go away and addresses the very objection that you claim you are not part of the New Covenant which includes the promises of God and the laws.

Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 9:6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

Until these scriptures are address not sure how much more we can talk about because they answer to your objection and Jesus telling us the Sabbath is not made for only Jews Mark 2:27

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Thanks again. My curiosity is about #10: do "all unclean foods" include everything that the Mosaic Law considers non-kosher? Or just some things, like pork and shellfish?

Everything that is outlined by God that is clean and unclean. Maybe you can point to exact scripture you are referring to. We should obey sanitary laws like not eating blood in meat, makes sense to not eat an injured clean animal etc.

 

[ChetSinger]

Everything that is outlined by God that is clean and unclean. Maybe you can point to exact scripture you are referring to. We should obey sanitary laws like not eating blood in meat, makes sense to not eat an injured clean animal etc.

I was hoping my question is simple: does the vow pertain to keeping all of the Mosaic food laws? Like some Orthodox Jews keep?

 

[ChetSinger]

I was hoping my question is simple: does the vow pertain to keeping all of the Mosaic food laws? Like some Orthodox Jews keep?

Actually, I've just done some reading and learned that the SDA doesn't enforce all kosher food rules. Just some of them.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Isa 66:23 means "week to week" and "month to month!"

Yes, from month to month and from one Sabbath to another ALL FLESH (not just Jews) will worship our Savior in Heaven and the New Earth on His holy Sabbath day. Should we not prepare NOW to do this? God's saint already keep God's commandments and faith in Jesus so this won't be new. Revelations 14:12

One verse does not show that gentile Christians regularly attended synagogues.

The disciples and Jesus kept the Sabbath as an example for us.

And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
- Acts 13:42

And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
- Acts 13:44

For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
- Acts 15:21

And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
- Acts 17:2

And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
- Acts 18:4

Paul was certainly not so confused that he would call obeying the law of Moses a yoke that even the Jews could not bear and then a few sentences later say gentiles must attend synagogues where the Jews would be enforcing those very laws.

Agreed. Do you know the difference between the law of Moses and the Law of God? Paul is not so confused when He tells us what matters is keeping the commandments of God. 1 Corinthians 7:19

From Acts to the end of Revelation Sabbath is never mentioned.

It's a fact that the 4th commandment is part of the commandments of God so it is mentioned three times in Revelations 12:17, Revelations 14:12, Revelations 22:14.

It's also mentioned here

Revelations 14: 6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— 7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”

This is a direct reference to the 4th commandment:

Exodus 20:8-11 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Matthew 10:17-18
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
Mark 13:9
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
Luke 21:12
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
John 16:2-3
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.​

What is your point you are trying to make with this scriptures. None of these delete the 4th commandment. This is what will happen to the people who keep the commandments of God. The devil goes to war with the remnant church of God that keeps the commandments. Revelations 12:17 The people who will be going against the commandment keepers will be falsely thinking they are doing God's service but it is not God's service they will be doing it is the "other spirit" because God says Blessed are those that DO His commandment which of course include keeping the Holy day of the Lord thy God that God told us to Remember and we will be keeping in Heaven and the New Earth Isaiah 66:23. God bless

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I was hoping my question is simple: does the vow pertain to keeping all of the Mosaic food laws? Like some Orthodox Jews keep?

Please give me some examples from scripture, I am not Jewish.

 

[Hezekiah81]

Show me your tassels. (just as binding as the Sabbath - Numbers 15:37-39)

Are you in an open or closed system?

Open and Closed Systems: What's Your Posture?

Do you not know that the law is written in your mind and heart for remembrance? God bless you.

 

[Hezekiah81]

It also confirms that it is optional.

Do you not know that God's commandments are not optional if you serve him? God bless you.

 

[Hezekiah81]

That saw cuts both ways.

The Apostle Paul identified the Circumcision Group as a dangerous cult.

1. Galatians 2:12
   For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.
   
   
2. Titus 1:10
   For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group.

Do you not know that circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing? The inward man must be cleansed. God bless you.

 

[Hezekiah81]

There you go again. Always needing to slip the Sabbath in by inference, because it is not there otherwise. How come?

Did God most high have written any other commandments aside from scripture and aside from the ones he wrote with his own finger in stone when he came down as a consuming fire to emphasize their importance?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”

Indeed and whosoever does not keep the law is a transgressor of the law *1 John 3:4. Therefore there is no excuse to break Gods' 4th commandments "seventh day" Sabbath that is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You're very transparent. A couple of other people have picked up on what I have and said something about it. I think it would help your credibility of you would just converse with me in a straightforward peer to peer manner.
Now back to the unanswered question: Ah so the Levitical law doesn't apply to gentile Christians. Then why does the SDA church say it's a sin for gentile Christians to eat pork and shellfish?

Thanks Brian but I am not interested in personal attacks because I only see Gods' Word as my definition credibility and what is credible and what is not. My credibility is not in myself as I have no credibility just like you and anyone else here because I am a sinner in need of Gods' grace, mercy and salvation but my hope is in His Word. For me it is only in Christ that I have any credibility and it is only His Words that I share with you that are my hope and it is only here that I look for what is credible and what is not. Anything outside of Gods' Word that disagrees with Gods' Word is not credible in my view. So I only share Gods' Word with you which are not my words but Gods Word that you deny with your words that are not God's Word. For me as posted earlier, only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow them over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God *Romans 3:4; John 17:17; Acts of the Apostles 5:29. If we deny Gods' Word according to the scriptures we deny the very Christ who's words we do not believe if we deny God's Word then what credibility do any of us have when according to the scriptures only God's Word is true *Romans 3:4?

Take Care Brian.