AOC melts down because she was fact checked

[GlabrousDory4]

Did I say "mostly"? Or did you add that word in there as a way of trying to goad me?

Are you needing a reason to report the post? Sorry I wasn't "goading". It just seems that when I think of groceries I think of edible foods like bread, vegetables, meat, cookies, chips. But some seem to immediately go straight to cigarettes and booze when the word "groceries" is said.

Doesn't matter. If you want to do something that requires an ID, then get the ID.

Doesn't matter. If you want to debate voter ID laws then go learn the topic.

 

[Arcangl86]

It's only the interpretation of Trump's haters that he was mocking someone who was disabled. Otherwise, why aren't you coming to the defense of a war veteran who lost 3 limbs and has been attacked on this site? Brian Kolfage is his name. Could it have anything to do with him being a Trump supporter?

Kolfage wasn't mocked for being disabled. In fact the only people who brought up the fact that he was disabled were doing so to deflect from other criticism of him.

 

[Aldebaran]

Are you needing a reason to report the post? Sorry I wasn't "goading". It just seems that when I think of groceries I think of edible foods like bread, vegetables, meat, cookies, chips. But some seem to immediately go straight to cigarettes and booze when the word "groceries" is said.

Yes, because those are the groceries that require an ID when they're being purchased, whether at a grocery store or anywhere else.

 

[DaisyDay]

Who cares? Even beyond groceries, there are things an ID is needed for. Buying cigarettes requires an ID since you have to be at least 18 to buy them. Low income people are the ones who smoke and drink the most, and they're the ones the democrats like to say are being denied voting rights by needing an ID. Why aren't they complaining about their smoking and drinking rights being denied?

Smoking and drinking alcohol are not rights. Voting is a constitutional right.

 

[GlabrousDory4]

Yes, because those are the groceries that require an ID when they're being purchased, whether at a grocery store or anywhere else.

Yeah, yeah, got that.

 

[USincognito]

You mean that all those claims of "If you like your health plan/doctor, you can keep your health plan/doctor" wasn't embarrassing when it turned out to be completely false, even though it was his big selling point for his pet project?

And here we go again, a quote from nearly 10 years ago that was 5 months into President Obama's administration. Meanwhile Trump lied 5 different times in one week... one week ago.

Says there’s "never (been) so many apprehensions ever in our history."
— PolitiFact National on Friday, January 11th, 2019



"When I say Mexico is going to pay for the wall, that's what I said. Mexico is going to pay. I didn't say they're going to write me a check for $20 billion or $10 billion."
— PolitiFact National on Thursday, January 10th, 2019



California’s deadly wildfires "would never happen" with "proper Forest Management."
— PolitiFact California on Wednesday, January 9th, 2019



Says Sen. Charles Schumer "repeatedly supported a physical barrier in the past along with many other Democrats. They changed their mind only after I was elected president."
— PolitiFact National on Wednesday, January 9th, 2019



"At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall."

— PolitiFact National on Wednesday, January 9th, 2019

 

[GlabrousDory4]

Smoking and drinking alcohol are not rights. Voting is a constitutional right.

There's also a great deal of difference between which ID's do which things.

I understand voter ID as a concept, but since no one has ever found significant evidence of voter ID fraud but they have found significant evidence that voter ID's will unnecessarily disenfranchise vast swaths of poor and minority voters, I think we all know WHY voter ID laws are being pushed by the GOP.

I think that regular folks, like conservative voters simply BELIEVE the lies told them by the GOP politicos who are playing this game and, to be honest, it sounds perfectly reasonable. It's a fix for a problem that could exist and it doesn't matter that it DOESN'T exist.

So the politicos realized that they understand statistics a WHOLE LOT BETTER than their voting base and so they come up with these schemes they KNOW will result in lower voter turn out from minorities and poor communities who would not normally vote for them and they "sell" it to their largely numerically and gamesmanship-illiterate base using what sound like common sense.

 

[GlabrousDory4]

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[USincognito]

It's only the interpretation of Trump's haters that he was mocking someone who was disabled.

Do you really expect this gaslighting to work on us?

Otherwise, why aren't you coming to the defense of a war veteran who lost 3 limbs and has been attacked on this site? Brian Kolfage is his name. Could it have anything to do with him being a Trump supporter?

If McCain had engaged in sketchy activity, then this might be a riposte worthy of consideration.

 

[whatbogsends]

If you buy alcohol or pay with a check, you do.
Not sure what your point is.

I buy groceries all the time without id.

Many who liked their doctor were able to keep their doctor under Obamacare.

"You need an ID to buy groceries" is every bit as much of a lie as "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor", and both were said to in defense of policy they were promoting.

The point is that you complaining about Obama's "if you like your doctor" quote while continuing to defend Trump is that you're being hypocritical when you do.

 

[DaisyDay]

Yes, because those are the groceries that require an ID when they're being purchased, whether at a grocery store or anywhere else.

Are cigarettes and alcohol really groceries? Are lottery tickets and magazines groceries? I don't think so.

 

[whatbogsends]

Are cigarettes and alcohol really groceries? Are lottery tickets and magazines groceries? I don't think so.

No, they're not. But if calling them groceries makes Trump's statement true, then it's obvious they will call them "groceries".

When citing Trump's lies, we can diversify, because he says so many of them. When citing Obama's lies, Trump's defenders all go back to the same handful, and then try to present them as an equivalency.

 

[Aldebaran]

Smoking and drinking alcohol are not rights. Voting is a constitutional right.

And voting is something done far more seldom than smoking and drinking. It stands to reason that those people who managed to get an ID required for their habits has an ID to do what they complain they're being kept from doing.

 

[cow451]

You mean that all those claims of "If you like your health plan/doctor, you can keep your health plan/doctor" wasn't embarrassing when it turned out to be completely false, even though it was his big selling point for his pet project?

But what about Obama?

 

[Aldebaran]

But what about Obama?

No, no! We have to focus on TRUMP even though this thread is about Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

 

[cow451]

No, no! We have to focus on TRUMP even though this thread is about Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

You brought up Obama.

 

[Aldebaran]

You brought up Obama.

Right. In post 134, I brought up Obama.

 

[cow451]

Right. In post 134, I brought up Obama.

You pulled the Obama card in post#100. You may recall that, sequentially, post #136 would be after #100.

 

[rambot]

It sure is ironic that people will defend AOC or (almost) anyone else when they say something like she did, but if Trump says something, it's automatically labeled as attacking or blasting someone, or whining or complaining or having a meltdown or temper tantrum--regardless of what he said or how he said it.
The defense of AOC is of little interest to me. Way too hypocritical.

So that's twice I have asked anyone to justify the claim of "meltdown" see feeble attemps of tyring to point out hypocrisy.

"Something like she did".....pfffft. I see that is how you are describing it. Can't even use her own words.

You STILL have not proven that she's had a meltdown aldebaran. I have asked you (and others) TWICE to use her words to explain it and you don't.

And I'm convinced the reason why you don't bother is because you are smart enough to know that she did NOT meltdown. But you are also desperate enough to keep saying she did without proving that initial point in an attempt to feel better because "liberals are hypocrites".

Are you going to show us in what way she "melted down"?

 

[rambot]

No, no! We have to focus on TRUMP even though this thread is about Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

I agreE!

If you want to go back to the topic of Cortez's meltdown, you better start by proving that your topic is even true: That Cortez had a meltdown. She did not.

So either prove it or let's move on to someone who actually has the emotional regulation of a narcissist