AOC melts down because she was fact checked

[Aldebaran]

You pulled the Obama card in post#100. You may recall that, sequentially, post #136 would be after #100.

I can't help it if he's a card.

 

[rambot]

Unless a SSN is not counted as an ID (don't know why it wouldn't be), one needs an ID (SSN) to obtain a credit card or open a checking/savings account with a debit card to pay for groceries, as many people do. I don't know why people get so worked up about that statement. Oh yeah... it's from Trump. Nuff said.

ROFL!
Your argument that you need ID to get a credit card so you need ID to get groceries?

Wow. That's amazing.

BREAKING NEWS! You need an ID to buy a bible! To buy new shoes!

Oh...this is all just too much good stuff.

 

[hislegacy]

He didn't say "plan" because one of the hallmarks of Obamacare is that qualifying plans had to meet minimum standards; you could not keep a substandard plan, the ones where you pay a lot for nothing.

Really?

Obama: 'If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan' | PolitiFact

 

[Aldebaran]

So that's twice I have asked anyone to justify the claim of "meltdown" see feeble attemps of tyring to point out hypocrisy.

"Something like she did".....pfffft. I see that is how you are describing it. Can't even use her own words.

Are you going to show us in what way she "melted down"?

You don't like the description of "meltdown". Then there are plenty of threads attended by plenty of haters who like to use Trump's comments as temper tantrums, meltdowns, hissy fits and pretty much anything else they can come up with. You might want to go there and question those people. You'll get responses such as, "Because it's a fact!" If it works there, it works here as well.

 

[rambot]

It's only the interpretation of Trump's haters that he was mocking someone who was disabled.

It requires Mary Lou Retton level style of mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion given his history of insulting people.

It's only the interpretation of Trump lovers that he was not mocking someone because of his disability.

 

[Aldebaran]

It requires Mary Lou Retton level style of mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion given his history of insulting people.

It's only the interpretation of Trump lovers that he was not mocking someone because of his disability.

That was simply a back flip. Easy to counter.

 

[rambot]

You don't like the description of "meltdown". Then there are plenty of threads attended by plenty of haters who like to use Trump's comments as temper tantrums, meltdowns, hissy fits and pretty much anything else they can come up with. You might want to go there and question those people. You'll get responses such as, "Because it's a fact!" If it works there, it works here as well.

Guy. Use WHATEVER descriptor you want, but also tell me which PHRASES in particular you found so aggregious and explain to me how they are aggregious.
Added bonus: You could even take them WAAAAAAAAY out of context.

My response is this: "Trump threw a hissy fit when he disagreed with the reporter. The fact that he threw a hissy fit is supported by his gesticulations and impression of a disabled person when it was neither necessary or beneficial for his point". Trump's "hissy fit indicators" (HFI) are obvious not exactly hidden.

And again, Trump supporters LOVE that he does stuff like that. They want him to get angry and say stupid hurtful stuff. They voted for him, at least in part, because they wnat to see that; they want to see mean and dirty.
So why get upset when he's calledon it?

 

[rambot]

That was simply a back flip. Easy to counter.

Out of curiousity, what was your rationale for justifying that thing with the disabled reporter again?

I remember reading one poster hear explaining it in a way that made sense to them, but it was right when it happened and I can't remember that long ago.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Out of curiousity, what was your rationale for justifying that thing with the disabled reporter again?

I remember reading one poster hear explaining it in a way that made sense to them, but it was right when it happened and I can't remember that long ago.

The absolute best way to interpret it was that Trump didn't remember that the guy was handicapped and mocked him using the hand-flapping-on-the-chest gesture that we all used in grade school to indicate someone was a "retard". The problem with that excuse is that he still used the "retard" motion to make fun of someone.

 

[cow451]

I can't help it if he's a card.

I never tire of being right.

 

[USincognito]

You don't like the description of "meltdown". Then there are plenty of threads attended by plenty of haters who like to use Trump's comments as temper tantrums, meltdowns, hissy fits and pretty much anything else they can come up with. You might want to go there and question those people. You'll get responses such as, "Because it's a fact!" If it works there, it works here as well.

Actually it's not about "liking" or not "liking", but about the fact that she didn't actually have a meltdown.

Let's go ahead and see if there's any reality to this supposed meltdown.

Ocasio-Cortez attacks fact-checkers for 'false equivalency,' 'bias'

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter
>> Facts are facts, America. We should care about getting things right. Yet standards of who gets fact-checked, how often + why are unclear. This is where false equivalency+bias creeps in, allowing climate deniers to be put on par w/scientists, for example. <<

HOLY MOLY! The woman is clearly unhinged!

She continues:
>> For example, it looks like @PolitiFact has fact-checked Sarah Huckabee Sanders and myself the *same* amount of times: 6. She’s been serving for almost 2 years. I’ve served 4 days. Why is she fact-checked so little? Is she adhering to some standard we don’t know about? <<

>> Or why did @washingtonpost give my confusing tweet on military accounting offsets the same “Pinocchios” as Trump’s flat denial of how many Americans died in Puerto Rico? These are legitimate questions not intended to attack. Who makes these decisions? How? Is there a rubric? <<

>> Another question for @politifact: some officials’ statements (ex. Andrew Cuomo) get rated “true” frequently. I say true things all the time - I’d hope most do. When does Politifact choose to rate true statements? Is there a guide? I’d be happy to repost if there is. <<

She's crazed with madness! But then she does something that not even Trump would ever do:

accepts the criticism of her...
Sal Rizzo on Twitter
>> Sal Rizzo‏Verified account @rizzoTK

No one likes to be fact-checked. There's a simple way to avoid it. And there's a big difference between the colossal amount of time we spend fact-checking Trump (7,645 false/misleading claims and counting) and TWO fact-checks of @AOC <<
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter
> Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez‏Verified account @AOC

Fact-checking is critically important. It’s not always fun. But that’s okay! It pushes me to be better. It’s important that if fact-checkers are referees, everyone know the rules - and those rules be as clear + fair as possible for all to play. Thank you for the work you do. <<

I wonder if the Daily Caller included this last exchange in it's hit piece the way Fox News did.

 

[rambot]

The absolute best way to interpret it was that Trump didn't remember that the guy was handicapped and mocked him using the hand-flapping-on-the-chest gesture that we all used in grade school to indicate someone was a "retard". The problem with that excuse is that he still used the "retard" motion to make fun of someone.

I heard..."it's a common way that he mocks people so it's all good".

 

[BigDaddy4]

ROFL!
Your argument that you need ID to get a credit card so you need ID to get groceries?

Wow. That's amazing.

BREAKING NEWS! You need an ID to buy a bible! To buy new shoes!

Oh...this is all just too much good stuff.

Whoosh... right over your head.

How do you pay for your groceries?

 

[DaisyDay]

And voting is something done far more seldom than smoking and drinking. It stands to reason that those people who managed to get an ID required for their habits has an ID to do what they complain they're being kept from doing.

Sure, in some states the same ID can be used in a grocery store and for voting, but in others, well, they're a bit more restrictive in what they'll accept for voting.

 

[DaisyDay]

Really?

Obama: 'If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan' | PolitiFact

Oh, you're right; I'm wrong.

 

[DaisyDay]

Unless a SSN is not counted as an ID (don't know why it wouldn't be), one needs an ID (SSN) to obtain a credit card or open a checking/savings account with a debit card to pay for groceries, as many people do.

You can't use a Social Security card as ID for voting, however, because it has no picture and no address, so that's a really bad example.

I don't know why people get so worked up about that statement. Oh yeah... it's from Trump. Nuff said.

Not because it's from Donald. It would be just as ignorant and pointless from any other politician or non-politician.

Whoosh... right over your head.

Only in your imagination.

How do you pay for your groceries?

Sometimes cash, sometimes a credit card - either way I'm never asked for ID. When I got the credit card, they didn't ask for ID either, just information.

 

[rambot]

Whoosh... right over your head.

How do you pay for your groceries?

No. Not over my head at all. Straight into my brain.

How was buying a bible different from buying groceries in comparison?

 

[hislegacy]

It requires Mary Lou Retton level style of mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion given his history of insulting people.

It's only the interpretation of Trump lovers that he was not mocking someone because of his disability.

Just as a continued reminder:

He used to use the hand motions quite often, none of the generals he referenced, Ted Cruz nor anyone else was disabled, he was mocking the disability. Repeating the misinformation doesn't suddenly make it true

 

[rambot]

Just as a continued reminder:

He used to use the hand motions quite often, none of the generals he referenced, Ted Cruz nor anyone else was disabled, he was mocking the disability.

You're right. I guess he's a really, really classy guy.

 

[whatbogsends]

Just as a continued reminder:

He used to use the hand motions quite often, none of the generals he referenced, Ted Cruz nor anyone else was disabled, he was mocking the disability. Repeating the misinformation doesn't suddenly make it true

I heard..."it's a common way that he mocks people so it's all good".

You called it.​