Any scriptural evidence that evangelized Gentiles are to keep the Sabbath?

[Friedrich Rubinstein]

When God gave the commandment to rest on the 7th day the intention was that we shall remember His act of Creation. If your week started on Wednesday and ended on Tuesday you could rest every Tuesday and obey the command that way - because then Tuesday is your 7th day. To God it does not matter which day we rest as long as it is the 7th day, we rest in remembrance of Creation and we are consequent with it.
It is ridiculous to say we gentiles have to rest on Saturdays. Some people try to say "culture does not matter", but it does matter a lot indeed. We are not Jews, we don't have to convert to Jews and therefore don't have to change our culture.
The people who think we should calculate our time the same way as the Jews do should then also think that we must read from right to left, speak God's language (Hebrew) only and other nonsense that is not biblical.

 

[misput]

If we understand Heb. 3 & 4 we realize the sabbath is about salvation ie resting in the Lord, not about resting physically and continues to today for all who love the Lord.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

There is a list in Acts 15 that answers this question.

Acts 15,28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you. Fare ye well

Any answer that does not take this verse into account is simply wrong. Note that Paul, when dealing with questions like fornication or other sins, does never recur to OT commands, but argues from Christ and us being a part of His body. And what the site you quote says is not only wrong, it is exactly what we are warned against:

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day:

This cannot be overturned by a person that has many words and worldly wisdom to lure us into seeing the Sabbath as a point of judgement. It is a matter of personal taste, fullstop.

This is the ceremonial law not Gods Law. Gods law is very important. If you really want to know read the index of your Bible the references to the commandments and the sabbath.

The Bible is very clear how important Gods laws are. Mathew 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Revelation 22:14 14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

100 Amazing Facts About The Sabbath and Sunday | Sabbath Truth

 

[helmut]

First, there is nothing in the Ten Commandment law about food, drink, festivals, new moons, or sabbath days (plural).

There is nothing in the NT that says the 10 commandments are to all people, instead of the laws of the Jews (see John 8:17 for the origin of that expression). The OT says they were for the people of Israel, the NT does not mention them when speaking about the commandments gentile Christians should obey (Acts 15:28).

Of course, if a commandment of the OT is confirmed in the NT, we should take that serious. But there is no passage in the NT that confirms the keeping of the Sabbath (unlike as "you shall not kill", or even "you shall not muzzle the ox when he treades out the corn", which has a spiritual meaning to us, 1Tim 5:18).

Second, Paul wrote plainly that he was speaking of “sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come,” and not of the weekly Sabbath, which is a memorial of something that happened in the past, at the creation.

According to Hebrew, the rest of Sabbath created on the 7th day is a shadow of the rest yet to come. The person you quote has deficits in Biblical knowledge. I have my deficits, too, but it seems I know better about sabbath that he does.

The King James uses the word “holyday,” and some will contend that it refers to the weekly Sabbath, while the expression “sabbath days” refers to yearly sabbaths.

The word sabbath is related to the word for "seven", but also to the verb for "resting". The range of meanings for "sabbaths" is wider than said, it even contains the "sabbatical" year.

Indeed, Paul does not think only of the weekly sabbath, but he does not exclude it. This is what the website blurs up.

Many words, to deceive the reader. Don't trust that site!

 

[helmut]

This is the ceremonial law not Gods Law.

You are wrong.

In Acts 15, only commands are given that "foreigners among you" should keep. There is an article that showed that, if you look at the deviances from the OT Hebrew and/or LXX text in Acts 15:15-17 and use the rules of Jewish exegesis, you arrive at this term which appears several time in the Pentateuch. And while in the Hebrew text these foreigners are members of other people, in the Greek LXX they are called "proselytes among you". We can see easily how the Judaizers of Acts 15:1 used such a reasoning to draw the conclusions: Gentile Christians are proselytes, and must be circumcised. But James read his Bible in Hebrew, and draw another conclusion ...

The important point is: Commands for the "foreigners among you" that are part of the ceremonial law (sacrifices etc.) are not mentioned. So Ats 15:28 is not about ceremonial law.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

This is not about being right or wrong, its about what the Bible teaches through scripture. I am not sure how or why so many people gloss over so much scripture on Gods law, the Sabbath but focus instead on some obscure verses that they want so bad to say did away with Gods law. Why would God do that? He wrote His law in stone to be everlasting and there is so many scriptures that require us to keep Gods commandments. Just read the Bible. Look at your index on the Commandments and Sabbath. There is so much scripture there not sure how anyone in good conscience say Gods law no longer matters. Mather 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

John 14:21-27 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”


100 Amazing Facts About The Sabbath and Sunday | Sabbath Truth


WHY keep the Sabbath day? What is the object of the Sabbath? Who made it? When was it made, and for whom? Which day is the true Sabbath? Many keep the first day of the week, or Sunday. What Bible authority have they for this? Some keep the seventh day, or Saturday. What Scripture have they for that? Here are the facts about both days, as plainly stated in the Word of God:

1. After working the first six days of the week in creating this earth, the great God rested on the seventh day. (Genesis 2:1.3.)
   
2. This stamped that day as God's rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day thus becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath, day.
   
3. Therefore the seventh day must always be God's Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one on which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God's rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God's Sabbath day.
   
4. The Creator blessed the seventh day. (Genesis 2:3.)
   
5. He sanctified the seventh day. (Exodus 20:11.)
   
6. He made it the Sabbath day in the Garden of Eden. (Genesis 2:1-3.)
   
7. It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type; for types were not introduced till after the fall.
   
8. Jesus says it was made for man (Mark 2:27), that is, for the race, as the word man is here unlimited; hence, for the Gentile as well as for the Jew.
   
9. It is a memorial of creation. (Exodus 20:11; 31:17.) Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate that grand event.
   
10. It was given to Adam, the head of the human race. (Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3.)
    
11. Hence through him, as our representative, to all nations. (Acts 17:26.)
    
12. It is' not a Jewish institution, for it was made 2,300 years before ever there was a Jew.
    
13. The Bible never calls it the Jewish Sabbath, but always "the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." Men should be cautious how they stigmatize God's holy rest day.
    
14. Evident reference is made to the Sabbath and the seven-day week all, through the patriarchal age. (Genesis 2:l-3; 8:10,12; 29:27,28.etc.)
    
15. It was a part of God's law before Sinai. (Exodus 16:4, 27-29.)
    
16. Then God placed it in the heart of His moral law. (Exodus 20:1-17.) Why did He place it there if it was not like the other nine precepts, which all admit to be immutable?
    
17. The seventh-day Sabbath was commanded by the voice of the living God. (Deuteronomy 4:12,13.)
    
18. Then He wrote the commandment with His own finger. (Exodus 31:18.)
    
19. He engraved it in the enduring stone, indicating its imperishable nature. (Deuteronomy 5:22.)
    
20. It was sacredly preserved in the ark in the holy of holies. (Deuteronomy 10:1-5.)
    
21. God forbade work upon the Sabbath, even in the most hurrying times. (Exodus 34:21.)
    
22. God destroyed the Israelites in the wilderness because they profaned the Sabbath. (Ezekiel 20:12, 13.)
    
23. It is the sign of the true God, by which we are to know Him from false gods. (Ezekiel 20:20.)
    
24. God promised that Jerusalem should stand forever if the Jews would keep the Sabbath (Jeremiah 17:24, 25.)
    
25. He sent them into the Babylonish captivity for breaking it. (Nehemiah 13:18.)
    
26. He destroyed Jerusalem for its violation. (Jeremiah 17:27.)
    
27. God has pronounced a special blessing on all the Gentiles who will keep it. (Isaiah 56:6, 7.)
    
28. This is in the prophecy, which refers wholly to the Christian dispensation. (See Isaiah 56.)
    
29. God has promised to bless all who keep the Sabbath. (Isaiah 56:2.)
    
30. The Lord requires us to call it "honourable". (Isaiah 58:13.) Beware, ye who take delight in calling it the. “old Jewish Sabbath,” “a yoke of bondage,” etc.
    
31. After the holy Sabbath has been trodden down "many generations,” it is to be restored in the last days. (Isaiah 58:12,13.)
    
32. All the holy prophets kept the seventh day.
    
33. When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. (Luke 4:16; John 15:10.) Thus He followed His Father's example at creation. Shall we not be safe in following the example of both the Father and the Son?
    
34. The seventh day is the Lord's Day. (See Revelation 1:10; Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13; Exodus 20:10.)
    
35. Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28), that is, to love and protect it, as the husband is the lord of the wife, to love and cherish her (1 Peter 3:6.)
    
36. He vindicated the Sabbath as a merciful institution designed for man's good. (Mark 2:23-28.)
    
37. Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. (Matthew 12:1-13.)
    
38. He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was “lawful” (Matthew 12:12.)
    
39. He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded forty years after His resurrection. (Matthew 24:20.)
    
40. The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. (Luke 23:56.)
    
41. Thirty years after Christ's resurrection, the Holy Spirit' expressly calls it "the Sabbath day,"(Acts 13:14.)
    
42. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it the "Sabbath day" in A.D. 45. (Acts 13:27.) Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?
    
43. Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it the "Sabbath day." (Acts 13:44.)
    
44. The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. (Acts 13:42.)
    
45. In the great Christian council, A.D. 49, in the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the "sabbath day." (Acts 15:21)
    
46. It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. (Acts 16:13.)
    
47. Paul read the Scriptures in public meetings on that day. (Acts 17:2, 3.)
    
48. It was his custom to preach upon that day. (Acts 17:2,3.)
    
49. The Book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. (See Acts 13:14, 44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4. 11.)
    
50. There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that the Jews did.
    
51. In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not, if he did not keep it?
    
52. But Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. “Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all." Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?
    
53. The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament fifty-nine times, and always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, “the Sabbath day.”
    
54. Not a word is said anywhere in the New Testament about the Sabbath's being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.
    
55. God has never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use - the seventh day for common labor?
    
56. No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modem Christians do differently from Bible Christians?
    
57. There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day.
    
58. As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. (Isaiah 66:22, 23.)
    
59. The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. (See Exodus 20.) When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.” Matthew 5:17
    
60. Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same time they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.

40 Bible Facts Concerning the First Day of the Week

1. The very first thing recorded In the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. (Genesis l: l-5.) The Creator Himself did this. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?
   
2. God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. (Exodus 20.8-11.) Is it wrong to obey God?
   
3. None of the patriarchs ever kept it.
   
4. None of the holy prophets ever kept it.
   
5. By the express command of-God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.
   
6. God Himself calls it a "working" day. (Ezekiel 46:1.)
   
7. God did not rest upon it.
   
8. He never blessed it.
   
9. Christ did not rest upon it.
   
10. Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3), and worked at His trade until He was thirty years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence He did many a hard day’s work on Sunday.
    
11. The apostles worked upon it during the same time.
    
12. The apostles never rested upon it.
    
13. Christ never blessed it.
    
14. It has never been blessed by any divine authority.
    
15. It has never been sanctified.
    
16. No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it, hence it is no transgression to work upon it. “Where no law is, there is no transgression.” Romans 4:15 (See also 1 John 3:4.)
    
17. The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.
    
18. No penalty is provided for its violation.
    
19. No blessing is promised for its observance.
    
20. No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?
    
21. It is never called the Christian Sabbath.
    
22. It is never called the Sabbath day at all.
    
23. It is never called the Lord’s day.
    
24. It is never called even a rest day.
    
25. No sacred title whatever is applied to it. Then why should we call it holy?
    
26. It is simply called “first day of the week.”
    
27. Jesus never-mentioned it in any way, never took its name upon His lips, so far as the record shows.
    
28. The word Sunday never occurs in the Bible at all.
    
29. Neither God, Christ, nor inspired men ever said one word in favor of Sunday as a holy day.
    
30. The first day of the week is mentioned only eight times in all the New Testament. (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1, 19; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.)
    
31. Six of these texts refer to the same first day of the week.
    
32. Paul directed the saints to look over their secular affairs on that day. (1Corinthians 16:2.)
    
33. In all the New Testament we have a record of only one religious meeting held upon that day, and even this was a night meeting. (Acts 20:5-12.)
    
34. There is not intimation that they ever held a meeting upon it before or after that.
    
35. It was not their custom to meet on that day.
    
36. There was no requirement to break bread on that day.
    
37. We have an account of only one instance in which it was done. (Acts 20:7.)
    
38. That was done in the night-after midnight. (Verses 7-11.) Jesus celebrated it on Thursday evening (Luke 22), and the disciples sometimes did it every day (Acts 2:42-46.)
    
39. The Bible nowhere says that the first day of the week commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is a tradition of men, which contradicts the law of God. (Matthew 15:1-9.) Baptism commemorates the burial and resurrection of Jesus. (Romans 6:3-5.)
    
40. Finally, the New Testament is totally silent with regard to any change of the Sabbath day or any sacredness for the first day.

 

[helmut]

This is not about being right or wrong, its about what the Bible teaches through scripture. I am not sure how or why so many people gloss over so much scripture on Gods law.

The correct understanding of Scripture is a matter of right or wrong.

You need to understand the important points, not the numerous less important.

Most of the points you numbered are compatible to my view, so don't say I gloss over them.

It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type; for types were not introduced till after the fall.

Which scripture says types were not introduced before the fall?

Hebrew 4 states that the rest of God was created when God rested on the seventh day (and all works of God are complete, V.3-4), but it goes in to show that there is a rest yet to come (V.9, there in Greek we find the word sabbatismos). So the sabbath is a shadow of the rest Hebrews 4 speaks about in explaining Ps 95.

So we have the point of you, which seems to be grounded on philosophy, and the contrary evidence to this from Scripture. This was the first point we disagree about. You accuse me to gloss over the 6 points before, which I do not, but you gloss over Heb 4:9 - it does not appear in your list.

I have better things to do than to go further in your list, which is mostly correct, but does not prove what you want to prove, because there are errors in it here and there. I pointed to the first error.

 

[nolidad]

Is there any evidence in the Bible indicating that evangelized Gentiles are expected to keep the Sabbath? If not, is there any scriptural evidence against it? Or are scriptures rather silent in this regard?

Short answer? NO!

When one reads the texts in Exodus and Deuteronomy about the Sabbath, it is a sign of the Covenant between God and the nation of Israel for all generations!

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Is there any evidence in the Bible indicating that evangelized Gentiles are expected to keep the Sabbath? If not, is there any scriptural evidence against it? Or are scriptures rather silent in this regard?

Jesus Christ of Nazareth is now our Sabbath rest.
Be blessed.

 

[Shamawh]

Luke 16:16-17, " 16 “The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it. 17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void."

 

[GenemZ]

Yes, it is. But it tells us that God is happy when we keep the Sabbath That won't change in the New Covenant because God does not change. What pleased Him in the past will please Him in the future as well.

Sounds good. Just not found in the Bible for the church.

Where your ancestors tested and tried me,
though for forty years they saw what I did.
That is why I was angry with that generation;
I said, ‘Their hearts are always going astray,
and they have not known my ways.’
So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.’ ” Heb 3:9-11​

Those people did keep the Sabbath.

He wants us in the church to enter His Rest. To Rest from our own works.

Do you comprehend what that means?
For we keep testing the Lord with our opinions of how we feel things should be.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The correct understanding of Scripture is a matter of right or wrong.

You need to understand the important points, not the numerous less important.

Most of the points you numbered are compatible to my view, so don't say I gloss over them.


Which scripture says types were not introduced before the fall?

Hebrew 4 states that the rest of God was created when God rested on the seventh day (and all works of God are complete, V.3-4), but it goes in to show that there is a rest yet to come (V.9, there in Greek we find the word sabbatismos). So the sabbath is a shadow of the rest Hebrews 4 speaks about in explaining Ps 95.

So we have the point of you, which seems to be grounded on philosophy, and the contrary evidence to this from Scripture. This was the first point we disagree about. You accuse me to gloss over the 6 points before, which I do not, but you gloss over Heb 4:9 - it does not appear in your list.

I have better things to do than to go further in your list, which is mostly correct, but does not prove what you want to prove, because there are errors in it here and there. I pointed to the first error.

I did not accuse you of anything- this is not personal. I said some people gloss over so much scripture on the commandments of God. There are so many references, if I had more time I would list them. But here is Heb 4:9 I don't interpret it the same way as you do. It's inline with Gods 4th Commandment.


“‘The Sabbath rest that remains for the people of God’ (Heb 4:9) is not only a physical cessation from work to commemorate God’s perfect creation but also a spiritual entering into God’s rest (Heb 4:10) made possible through Christ’s complete redemption.

The physical act of resting becomes the vehicle through which one experiences the spiritual rest. We cease from our daily work to allow God to work in us more freely and fully.

 

[Friedrich Rubinstein]

Sounds good. Just not found in the Bible for the church.

Where your ancestors tested and tried me,
though for forty years they saw what I did.
That is why I was angry with that generation;
I said, ‘Their hearts are always going astray,
and they have not known my ways.’
So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.’ ” Heb 3:9-11​

Those people did keep the Sabbath.

He wants us in the church to enter His Rest. To Rest from our own works.

Do you comprehend what that means?
For we keep testing the Lord with our opinions of how we feel things should be.

Not sure what you're trying to say. Lol.

 

[helmut]

I did not accuse you of anything- this is not personal.

I'm not an outstanding exception, what I said about me is true for many others. There are only few who gloss over all you posted.

There are so many references

Most of them are compatible to the views of the people you say they gloss over. A reference which can be interpreted both ways is no argument. You need to look at the crucial verses that are arguments.

“‘The Sabbath rest that remains for the people of God’ (Heb 4:9) is not only a physical cessation from work to commemorate God’s perfect creation but also a spiritual entering into God’s rest (Heb 4:10) made possible through Christ’s complete redemption.

It is no physical rest at all.

The physical act of resting becomes the vehicle through which one experiences the spiritual rest. We cease from our daily work to allow God to work in us more freely and fully.

This is an option. And whether one rests on Saturday, or on Sunday, or an Friday (convenient in a Muslim society) is not important, as long as this does not include denial of one's Christian faith. And one who esteems all days same has also possibilities for recreation and contemplation. No need to become doctrinal on this.

 

[DamianWarS]

In our culture the week starts on Monday and the 7th day is the Sunday

Have you looked at a western calender lately? What day is the first day of the week?

 

[Friedrich Rubinstein]

Have you looked at a western calender lately? What day is the first day of the week?

Monday, Sir.

 

[JohnT]

I did not accuse you of anything- this is not personal. I said some people gloss over so much scripture on the commandments of God. There are so many references, if I had more time I would list them. But here is Heb 4:9 I don't interpret it the same way as you do. It's inline with Gods 4th Commandment.


“‘The Sabbath rest that remains for the people of God’ (Heb 4:9) is not only a physical cessation from work to commemorate God’s perfect creation but also a spiritual entering into God’s rest (Heb 4:10) made possible through Christ’s complete redemption.

You omitted the relevance of Joshua in that out-of-context drive-by.

6 Since therefore it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly received the good news failed to enter because of disobedience,
7 again he appoints a certain day, “Today,” saying through David so long afterward, in the words already quoted,

“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”


8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on.
9 So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
10 for whoever has entered God's rest has also rested from his works as God did from his.

11 Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience.
12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.​

ESV

Perhaps you may be unfamiliar with the definition of the word, "rest"? It does not have to be on any particular day of the week, nor avoiding pulled pork BBQ. (delicious!)

You absolutely missed the point that our rest is IN CHRIST and that rest does not come as a cessation from what we may do. Such teaching is in my opinion law-mongering with no mercy attached.

 

[eleos1954]

You say circumcision is not a commandment, when it clearly is:
Genesis 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

In fact, the commandment was observed by all Jews, including Jesus. So, by your reasoning, we should follow Jesus's lead and get circumcised as well.

Romans 2:25-29

Circumcision of the Heart

25 For circumcision benefits you if you observe the law, but if you are a lawbreaker (and everyone has - except Jesus), your circumcision has become uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if an uncircumcised man keeps the law’s requirements, will his uncircumcision not be counted as circumcision?

27 A man who is physically uncircumcised, but who fulfills the law, will judge you who are a lawbreaker in spite of having the letter of the law and circumcision.

28 For a person is not a Jew who is one outwardly, and true circumcision is not something visible in the flesh.

29 On the contrary, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart—by the Spirit, not the letter. That man’s praise is not from men but from God.

 

[DamianWarS]

Monday, Sir.
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Then please forgive me cultural ignorance. However Many places still regard Sunday as the first day of the week (US/Canada) and Christians there still conflate Sunday with the Sabbath but not the reasons you suggest. Monday as the first day of the week seems to be a newer phenomenon and citing a cultural reason as to why Sunday is referred to as the Sabbath because it is the last day of the week seems to ignore all of history that had Sunday as the first day and still regarded it as the sabbath. May I suggest there are deeper reasons then a modern repositioning of the days of the week on a calendar as to why Sunday is conflated the Sabbath.

 

[JohnT]

May I suggest there are deeper reasons then a modern repositioning of the days of the week on a calendar as to why Sunday is conflated the Sabbath.

I know in advance that you will not accept this, but you are using the wrong word "conflating" Also, because the advent of the church worshiping on Sunday can be found on the Day of the feast of Pentecost.

It was on a Sunday that Holy Spirit came upon the Disciples (Acts 2) FYI Pentecost is ALWAYS on the 50th day following the last Sabbath in the 8 day feast of Passover. The 50th day after any Saturday is ALWAYS on a Sunday.

Therefore, why did God create that day for the beginning of the church and you SDA folk mistakenly say that we are to worship on Saturday?