Any scriptural evidence that evangelized Gentiles are to keep the Sabbath?

[eleos1954]

And Jesus also got circumcised

I explained that in my other post.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Is there any evidence in the Bible indicating that evangelized Gentiles are expected to keep the Sabbath? If not, is there any scriptural evidence against it? Or are scriptures rather silent in this regard?

No, the opposite. Colossians 2:16, Romans 14:5, Galatians 4:10 all indicate that the Sabbath is no longer applicable. For sure people should be sensible and have a day a week at least off their normal occupation. Should people meet on Sundays as a sabbath? The early church met daily. Our fellowship does likewise.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Did Abraham keep the Sabbath?

The Sabbath was introduced in the covenant of Law. Christians (although some are not aware of it) are under the New Covenant, which is of grace.

 

[eleos1954]

And Jesus also got circumcised

Yes ... and so ...

Colossians 2:11
In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,

 

[TruthSeek3r]

I explained that in my other post.

You say circumcision is not a commandment, when it clearly is:
Genesis 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

In fact, the commandment was observed by all Jews, including Jesus. So, by your reasoning, we should follow Jesus's lead and get circumcised as well.

 

[TruthSeek3r]

Yes ... and so ...

Colossians 2:11
In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,

So you agree that there are things that Jesus did that evangelized Gentiles do not have to do (for example, circumcision). How do you know that keeping the the sabbath is not also in the list?

 

[GraceBro]

Is there any evidence in the Bible indicating that evangelized Gentiles are expected to keep the Sabbath? If not, is there any scriptural evidence against it? Or are scriptures rather silent in this regard?

There is no scripture supporting the keeping of the Sabbath for Christians, be they Jews or Gentiles. First, Christians are not under the Law, whether it is the Sabbath or the remaining 612 laws. Romans 7:6, Galatians 3:24-25, 1 Timothy 1:8-10, are a few passages to refer to. Second, Hebrews 4, specifically verses 6-12, speak of the Sabbath as a foreshadowing of the rest from our works that we now have through our faith in Jesus Christ.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Is there any evidence in the Bible indicating that evangelized Gentiles are expected to keep the Sabbath? If not, is there any scriptural evidence against it? Or are scriptures rather silent in this regard?

Ro 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

This verse and its general context indicates it's up to our discretion when we have a day of observance.

Colossians 2
13 ¶ And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 ¶ Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Apparently following sabbath and feast days is contrary to kingdom living, it goes so far to compare the difference between a body and it's shadow. Since Jesus is the Light, then following the law is living in darkness.

Ga 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

This is why it is living in darkness, it is a living testimony that testifies "Jesus died in vain"

So from what I've read, it is clear - no sabbath, but rest when you need to.

The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath. (Mark 2:27)

In General, what Jesus gave us to replace the law is harder, and sometimes requires us to actually use our brains. So I can see why people insist on following a set of rules that are sometimes easier so long as you keep up appearances.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Is there any evidence in the Bible indicating that evangelized Gentiles are expected to keep the Sabbath? If not, is there any scriptural evidence against it? Or are scriptures rather silent in this regard?

There are a lot of scripture supporting keeping the Sabbath (Saturday) Holy and nothing supporting Sunday being the Lords Day. God wrote in stone to be everlasting the 4th Commandment: Exodus 8-11 20 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

This website has everything you need to know about the Sabbath. How it was changed. Why it is important. This is Gods special day and Satan is trying to do everything to make this very straight forward law of God confusing when it is not. It's crystal clear in scripture. Take a look....

Sabbath Is a Day of Rest and Worship | Sabbath Truth

Sabbath References | Sabbath Truth
'Seventh Day' References | Sabbath Truth
Sunday References | Sabbath Truth
How The Sabbath Was Changed | Sabbath Truth
1st Century

 

[helmut]

As other folks have said:

Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day [alike]. Let each man be fully assured in his own mind.

The one who obeys the Sabbath, the one who obeys the Sunday, the one who does not take any particular day special, but "esteems every day alike", all are acceptable by God. It is no matter of salvation or so.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day:

Making the Sabbath (or, by analogy, the Sunday) a command for believers is false teaching that we should resist. Anyone should stay by his own conviction. No Church has the right to command him to change his behavior in that respect.

 

[Friedrich Rubinstein]

There are a lot of scripture supporting keeping the Sabbath (Saturday) Holy and nothing supporting Sunday being the Lords Day. God wrote in stone to be everlasting the 4th Commandment: Exodus 8-11 20 8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

This website has everything you need to know about the Sabbath. How it was changed. Why it is important. This is Gods special day and Satan is trying to do everything to make this very straight forward law of God confusing when it is not. It's crystal clear in scripture. Take a look....

Sabbath Is a Day of Rest and Worship | Sabbath Truth

Sabbath References | Sabbath Truth
'Seventh Day' References | Sabbath Truth
Sunday References | Sabbath Truth
How The Sabbath Was Changed | Sabbath Truth
1st Century

I'm glad you quote the 4th commandment. It clearly says that the 7th day is the Sabbath. In the Jewish culture the days of the week are literally called like this: "First day", "Second day" and so on until "Sixth day", "Sabbath". In our culture the first day is called Monday, the sixth day is called Saturday and the 7th day which is the Sabbath is called Sunday.
You can't set Sabbath=Saturday because the Jews use the moon to calculate times while we use the sun, and the Jewish day starts at 6pm and ends at 6pm. You'd have to rest from Friday 6pm to Saturday 6pm if you wanted to rest at the same time which is ridiculous and not what God expects us to do.
God gave the command to rest on the 7th day, that is His Sabbath, and our 7th day is Sunday still.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yes, it is. But it tells us that God is happy when we keep the Sabbath That won't change in the New Covenant because God does not change. What pleased Him in the past will please Him in the future as well.



In the Jewish culture, yes. Because their week starts on Sunday and ends on Saturday (so that Saturday is their 7th day of the week). In our culture the week starts on Monday and the 7th day is the Sunday.
You probably know why we are supposed to rest on the 7th day, right? God created the universe within 6 days and rested on the 7th day. That's why we rest on Sundays in our culture.

Edit: If I misunderstood your original question and you want to know whether the gentiles have to rest on Saturday according to the Bible - the answer will be a simple "No"

God created the week, it doesn't matter what man did to change a calendar, that doesn't change Gods Sabbath day as Saturday. I follow God, not mans alteration of the calendar. My calendar still says Saturday is the 7th day. God rose on the 1st day of the week (Sunday) which is why there is Easter Sunday. Gods day has not changed (Sabbath/Saturday) Which Day of the Week Is The Sabbath? | Sabbath Truth

 

[helmut]

This website has everything you need to know about the Sabbath. How it was changed

A website that contradicts what Rom 14:5 or Col 2:16 say about the Sabbath is certainly not one we need to know.

 

[Friedrich Rubinstein]

God created the week, it doesn't matter what man did to change a calendar, that doesn't change Gods Sabbath day as Saturday. I follow God, not mans alteration of the calendar. My calendar still says Saturday is the 7th day. God rose on the 1st day of the week (Sunday) which is why there is Easter Sunday. Gods day has not changed (Sabbath/Saturday) Which Day of the Week Is The Sabbath? | Sabbath Truth

God never set Sabbath=Saturday. God set Sabbath=7th day.

 

[helmut]

You can't set Sabbath=Saturday

Everyone can, because Rom 14:5 tells us it is not important which day we "observe", nor even whether we observe a day, instead of esteeming every day equal.

So any quarrel about "Sunday or Saturday" is ridiculous, or even worse.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I'm glad you quote the 4th commandment. It clearly says that the 7th day is the Sabbath. In the Jewish culture the days of the week are literally called like this: "First day", "Second day" and so on until "Sixth day", "Sabbath". In our culture the first day is called Monday, the sixth day is called Saturday and the 7th day which is the Sabbath is called Sunday.
You can't set Sabbath=Saturday because the Jews use the moon to calculate times while we use the sun, and the Jewish day starts at 6pm and ends at 6pm. You'd have to rest from Friday 6pm to Saturday 6pm if you wanted to rest at the same time which is ridiculous and not what God expects us to do.
God gave the command to rest on the 7th day, that is His Sabbath, and our 7th day is Sunday still.

What you said is true Gods day is the 7th day our day (mans) is Sunday. I follow Gods law not mans.

Mark 2:27 And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.

Taken from 7 Facts About the Seventh Day | Sabbath Truth
The Seventh-day Sabbath Establishes God’s Sovereignty

Why does Satan hate the Sabbath so much? Because the Sabbath identifies the true God and His claim of ultimate sovereignty.

God certainly anticipated the controversy over the Genesis account of Creation. He knew that after the fall of man, there would be doubts about His claims of manufacturing all the staggering mass of matter by merely commanding it to exist.

To safeguard His sovereignty, He established a mark that denoted His absolute right to rule as Lord. He chose to memorialize His display of creative power by setting aside the seventh day of the Creation week as a holy day of rest and remembering.

God wrote these words: “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work. … For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is: … wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it” (Exodus 20:8–11).

Once a week, as the earth rotates on its axis through space, the Sabbath reminder travels around the earth reaching every man, woman, and child with the message of an instant creation and the one who did the creating.

Why did God say remember? Because to forget the true Sabbath is to forget the true Creator.

Does it really matter that much? See “The One Unimportant Commandment?” below.

Fact #2:
The Seventh-day Sabbath Was Made for Everyone

A multitude of Christians call God’s fourth commandment the “Jewish Sabbath.” But nowhere is this expression found in the Bible. The seventh day is called “the sabbath of the Lord,” and it is never called “the sabbath of the Jew” (Exodus 20:10).

Luke, a Gentile writer of the New Testament, often refers to things that were particularly Jewish. He writes of the “nation of the Jews,” “the people of the Jews,” “the land of the Jews,” and the “synagogue of the Jews” (Acts 10:22; 12:11; 10:39; 14:1). But he never refers to the “sabbath of the Jews,” although he mentions the Sabbath repeatedly.

Christ also taught that “the sabbath was made for man” (Mark 2:27). Adam and Eve were the only two people who existed when God actually established the Sabbath. There were no Jews in the world until 2,000 years later, so it was never meant just for the Jews. Jesus uses the term “man” in the generic sense, referring to all mankind. The same word is used in connection with the institution of marriage that was also introduced at creation. Certainly no Christian can believe that marriage was made only for the Jews.

Fact #3:
It’s Not About Just Keeping Any Day

Every word of God’s Ten Commandments was written by His own hand in stone. Every word is serious and meaningful. No line in them is ambiguous or mysterious. Sinners and Christians, educated and uneducated, are not confused about the words “seventh day.” So why do they discount those words if every other word in the commandments is considered to be ironclad?

Satan wants the world to accept Sunday as the day he has chosen for worship, but any day will do for him so long as it means we’re breaking God’s command.

Genesis describes the origin of the Sabbath like this: “Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made. … And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made” (Genesis 2:1–3).

Which day did God bless and sanctify? The seventh day. How was it to be kept holy? By resting. Could any of the other six be kept holy? No. Why? Because God commanded not to rest those days but to work. Does God’s blessing make a difference? Of course. Parents pray for God to bless their children because they believe it makes a difference. The seventh day is different from all the other days because it has God’s blessing.

Has God ever given man the privilege of choosing his own day of rest? No. In fact, God confirms in the Bible that the Sabbath is a matter settled and sealed by His own divine power. Read Exodus 16. For 40 years, God worked three miracles every week to show Israel which day was holy: (1) No manna fell on the seventh day; (2) they could not keep manna overnight without spoilage; (3) but when they kept manna over the Sabbath, it remained sweet and fresh!

But some Israelites had the same idea as many Christians have today. They felt that any day in seven would be okay to keep holy: “It came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.” What happened? “And the Lord said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?” (Exodus 16:27, 28).

God met them and accused them of breaking His law by going forth to work on the seventh day. Would God say the same thing to those who break the Sabbath today? Yes. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Hebrews 13:8).

But why the seventh day, exactly? See “Why the Seventh Day?” below.

Fact #4:
We Know the True Seventh Day

Some reject the seventh-day Sabbath over the belief that we cannot know which day it falls on today, so picking any day should be okay. But this is fallacy. Here are four proofs that identify the true Sabbath.

1: According to Scripture, Christ died on Friday and rose on Sunday, the first day of the week. Practically all churches acknowledge this by observing Easter Sunday and Good Friday. “This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. The women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment” (Luke 23:52–56).

This is clear evidence that Jesus died the day before the Sabbath! The day of His death was a “preparation day” because it was the time to get ready for the Sabbath. Notice, then, that the women rested over the Sabbath “according to the commandment.” The commandment says, “The seventh day is the Sabbath,” so we know they were resting on Saturday. The very next verse says, “Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared. … And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre” (Luke 24:1, 2).

2: The calendar has not been changed so as to confuse the days of the week. Just as we know that Jesus and His followers observed the same day as Moses, we can be positive that our seventh day is the same day Jesus observed. Pope Gregory XIII did make a calendar change in 1582, but it did not interfere with the weekly cycle. What did Gregory do to the calendar? He changed Friday, October 5, 1582, to be Friday, October 15, 1582. He did not affect the weekly cycle of days.

3: The Jews have observed the seventh day from the time of Abraham, and they still keep it today. An entire nation of people, all around the world, continue to observe a Sabbath they have known for more than 4,000 years.

4: Over 100 languages on earth use the word “Sabbath” for Saturday. For example, the Spanish word for Saturday is “Sabado,” meaning Sabbath. What does this prove? It proves that when those languages originated long ago, Saturday was recognized as the Sabbath day and was incorporated into the very name of the day.

Fact #5:
The Sabbath Is Not a Memorial of Deliverance Out of Egypt

This is a belief taken and twisted out of the Old Testament: “The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day” (Deuteronomy 5:14, 15).

Some people suggest this means that God gave the Sabbath as a memorial of the Exodus from Egypt. But the Genesis story of the making of the Sabbath (Genesis 2:1–3) and the wording of the fourth commandment by God (Exodus 20:11) reveals the seventh-day Sabbath as a memorial of creation.

The key to understanding these two verses rests in the word “servant.” God said, “Remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt.” And in the sentence before, He reminds them “that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.” In other words, their experience in Egypt as servants would remind them to deal justly with their servants by giving them Sabbath rest.

It was not unusual for God to harken back to the Egyptian deliverance as an incentive to obey other commandments. In Deuteronomy 24:17, 18, the Bible says, “Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow’s raiment to pledge. … Thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the Lord thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.”

Neither the command to be just nor to keep the Sabbath was given to memorialize the Exodus, but God told them that His goodness in bringing them out of captivity constituted a strong reason for them to deal kindly with their servants on the Sabbath and treating justly the strangers and widows.

In the same way, God spoke to them in Leviticus 11:45, “I am the Lord that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt … ye shall therefore be holy.” No one would insist that holiness did not exist before the Exodus or that it would be ever afterwards limited only to the Jews!

Fact #6:
The Sabbath Is Not Meant to Memorialize the Resurrection

It is true that Jesus rose on a Sunday. It is one of the pivotal moments in the history of the world.

But nowhere does the Bible hint that we should keep Sunday holy. Many other wonderful events occurred on certain days of the week, but we have no command to keep them holy either.

There is, of course, a memorial of the resurrection commanded in the Bible, but it is not to determine a new day of worship. Paul wrote: “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life” (Romans 6:4). Baptism is the memorial of Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection. However, the Sabbath is a memorial of creation.

Still have a question about this? See “The Upper Room” below.

Fact #7:
The Sabbath Will Be Celebrated for Eternity

The Sabbath is an arbitrary arrangement of God that serves a powerful purpose. It is His claim — His seal — over the world and all human life. It is also a sign of the redemption He offers to every single one of us.

Surely this is why God will preserve Sabbathkeeping throughout eternity. That’s right! “For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord” (Isaiah 66:22, 23).

The Sabbath is so precious to God that He will have His people observe it throughout all time in the beautiful new earth to come. If it is so precious to Him, should it not be precious to us? If we are going to keep it through all eternity, why not keep it now as our pledge of obedience to Him?

Trust and Obey: There Is No Other Way
It is easy to understand why the devil has waged a continuing, desperate battle against the seventh-day Sabbath. He has worked through the pride of tradition, misinformation, and religious bigotry to destroy the sanctity of God’s special sign of authority — the Sabbath.

But with these Sabbath facts in hand, may God grant every Christian the courage to honor the Sabbath commandment as His special test of our love and loyalty.

It might be a duty to keep the seventh-day holy. But it should not be a burden. In an age of false gods and spirituality, of atheistic evolution, and the stubborn traditions of men, the world needs the Sabbath more than ever. It is more than just a test of our loyalty to the Creator. It is more than just a sign of our sanctification through His power. It is His promise of a lasting, eternal gift of restoration.

More Interesting Facts!
The One Unimportant Commandment?

God made it very clear that, regardless of feelings, those who abuse the Sabbath are guilty of breaking His law. James explains that it is a sin to break even one of the Ten Commandments: “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law” (James 2:10, 11).

Most of the commandments begin with the same words: ‘‘Thou shalt not.’’ But the fourth commandment is introduced with the word “Remember.” Why? Because God was commanding them to call something to memory that already existed but had been forgotten.

Why the Seventh Day?

Why did God bless the seventh day as a day of worship? Because He had just created the world in six days. It was a memorial to the birth of the world, a reason to remember that mighty act.

So could the Sabbath memorial be changed? No. Because it points backward to an accomplished fact. For instance, July 4 is Independence Day in the United States. Can it be changed? No. Because the Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4, 1776. Your birthday cannot be changed either. It is a memorial of your birth, which happened on a set day. History would have to run through again to change your birthday, to change Independence Day, or to change the Sabbath day. We can call another day Independence Day, and we can call another day the Sabbath, but that does not make it so.

The Upper Room

Those who believe that Sunday worship honors the resurrection of Jesus often cite the upper room meeting of the disciples on the same day that He rose from the grave. They argue that this gathering was meant to celebrate His resurrection. But the Bible record of the event reveals another set of circumstances.

Mark writes that even though the disciples were confronted with the eyewitness story of Mary, they “believed not. After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them. Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen” (Mark 16:11–14).

Obviously, none of those upper room disciples believed that He was raised from the dead, so they could not have been joyously celebrating the resurrection. John explains their reason for being together with these words: “The doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews” (John 20:19).

 

[SabbathBlessings]

God never set Sabbath=Saturday. God set Sabbath=7th day.

the 7th day is Saturday.

Which Day of the Week Is The Sabbath? | Sabbath Truth

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Everyone can, because Rom 14:5 tells us it is not important which day we "observe", nor even whether we observe a day, instead of esteeming every day equal.

So any quarrel about "Sunday or Saturday" is ridiculous, or even worse.

Does Romans 14 teach that the Sabbath is done away with? | Sabbath Truth

Caller: My question refers to Romans 14:5, and I was wondering if that refers to the Sabbath?

Pastor Doug: Let me read this: One man esteems one day above another another man esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. Also reading verse 6: He that regards the day regards it unto the Lord He that regards not the day, to the Lord he does not regard it. He that eats to the Lord, he eats and gives God thanks, he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not and gives God thanks. Paul is speaking, addressing Romans who are converting to Christianity.

What of the Jewish laws are still intact? The Jews had a number of ceremonial holy days that came on a yearly basis and it was not required for converts to Christianity, the new converts, to be circumcised or practice the ceremonial aspects of the Jewish law because they were shadows that pointed to Jesus. But that’s completely separate from the ten commandments, and the Sabbath was a weekly commitment. So Paul, I think, is very clearly addressing the ceremonial laws and holidays. A modern comparison for this would be there are Christians who want to remember the birth of Christ during Christmas there are some who say ‘I don’t believe that’s when He was born, so I’m not going to have anything to do with it there are some pagan trappings’.

I think everyone needs to be persuaded in their own mind. You can’t imagine God telling Moses that someone should be stoned for breaking the Sabbath in one part of the Bible , and then you go to another part of the Bible and He says “Well, if you want to keep it, go ahead, if you don’t, that’s up to you”. That would be pretty inconsistent. He’s not talking about the Sabbath command here, he’s talking about the Jewish holy days.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No, the opposite. Colossians 2:16, Romans 14:5, Galatians 4:10 all indicate that the Sabbath is no longer applicable. For sure people should be sensible and have a day a week at least off their normal occupation. Should people meet on Sundays as a sabbath? The early church met daily. Our fellowship does likewise.

They are referring to ceremonial laws not the Sabbath: Best explanation is here:Doesn't Colossians 2:14 wipe out the weekly Sabbath? | Sabbath Truth

Let’s first take a look at the apostle Paul's words in Colossians 2:14–17: “Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. … So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.”

When some read about the sabbath days that were shadows and that passed away at the cross, they think that Paul was referring to the weekly Sabbath, the fourth of the Ten Commandments. Is this accurate? It’s important to get this right, because our interpretation of the apostle’s actual meaning can lead us into deeper truth or into deeper error.


Two Sabbaths


First, there is nothing in the Ten Commandment law about food, drink, festivals, new moons, or sabbath days (plural). All these were actually separate laws that God gave for the physical and spiritual health of His Old Testament people; these were called ceremonial laws.


Second, Paul wrote plainly that he was speaking of “sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come,” and not of the weekly Sabbath, which is a memorial of something that happened in the past, at the creation. The contrast between a shadow and a memorial is quite clear. Indeed, the fourth commandment does not tell us to keep the seventh day as a type of something to come. It says: “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. ... For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it” (Exodus 20:8, 11).

Moreover, to show that he had something other than the weekly Sabbath in mind, Paul distinctly mentioned “sabbaths,” plural,” which are a shadow of things to come.” (The word “sabbath” in the Greek can be singular or plural according to Strong’s and Greek lexicons.)


Festivals and Shadows


The King James uses the word “holyday,” and some will contend that it refers to the weekly Sabbath, while the expression “sabbath days” refers to yearly sabbaths. The American Standard Version uses “feast day” instead of “holyday,” and this likely a clearer translation. The word translated “holyday” is from the Greek heorte, and in John 5:1, this same word is used to designate one of the yearly festivals of the Jews: “After this there was a feast [heorte] of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.” This is one of the holy days that Paul spoke of as having been nailed to the cross.


The “shadows” Paul mentions pointed to Jesus as a Savior from sin and were observed with that in mind. But the weekly Sabbath was made for man before sin entered into the world, before man would need atonement. The shadows pointing forward to His death as an atonement for sin certainly were not instituted until after sin. Therefore, since the weekly Sabbath was instituted before sin, just as was the marriage institution, it was not a shadow of Christ’s death as a Savior from sin; and His death did not end the Sabbath day any more than it brought marriage to an end. Both the Sabbath and marriage came to us in a perfect world.

Paul’s language shows he was referencing the shadowy ceremonies that pointed forward to and ended at the cross. Notice again, carefully, his words in Colossians 2:14: “Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.” Paul mentions that these laws were “against us” and “contrary” to us. Would it be contrary to Christians to refrain from idolatry, using God’s name in vain, dishonoring parents, murder, theft, adultery, lying, and coveting—the sins rebuked by the Ten Commandments? Thus, the apostle must have been talking of another law—a law that enjoined food offerings, drink offerings, the observance of festivals, new moons, and yearly sabbaths.


Why Are These Laws Contrary to Us?


Why would the observance of these ceremonies after the death of Christ be contrary to the Christian faith? The yearly sabbath of the Passover involved killing a lamb that represented Jesus, the Lamb of God. The apostle Paul taught directly, “Indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us" (1 Corinthians 5:7). Thus, to keep offering a sacrificial lamb after His death would be to imply that Jesus had not accomplished atonement. Such an observance would be contrary to the teachings of Christianity.


Many other shadowy requirements of the ceremonial law pointed to the death of Jesus on the cross, as well. All these festivals, food and drink offerings, and sabbaths that were nailed to the cross, Paul declared to be “a shadow of things to come.” Then he adds, "But the substance is of Christ." That is, the substance that cast these shadows was Christ’s body on the cross.

Think of it this way—late in the afternoon when a tall tree casts its shadow eastward, one can begin at the farthest end of the shadow and follow it until he or she gets to the tree that casts the shadow, and there the shadow ceases to be. Likewise, we can go back to the time when “through one man [Adam] sin entered the world, and death through sin,” and there a merciful God promised to send a Redeemer (Genesis 3:15), a Substitute, to die in man’s place. To keep man continually reminded of this fact, and to supply him with a means of expressing his faith in the coming sacrifice, God instituted these ceremonies. All of these were included in the law that was not written on tables of stone.

Follow these shadowy ceremonies all the way from Eden to the time of Moses, and then through the wilderness journey and on for hundreds of years after the settlement in Canaan, and at last to Calvary—and there they cease. So it would be "against us" and "contrary" to our faith to observe these ceremonies after Jesus' death. Not so with the other law. It is just as necessary to refrain from idolatry, using God’s name in vain, dishonoring the Sabbath, murder, adultery, and theft after the cross as before. Indeed, it was the violation of these principles that caused the death of Christ. Could they have been set aside or changed to accommodate the carnal mind, Jesus need not have died.

Now with these truths before us, let us again read Colossians 2:14–17 and see how plainly Paul revealed that he did not mean that the weekly seventh-day Sabbath had been nailed to the cross: "Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. … So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ."

 

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What of the Jewish laws are still intact?

There is a list in Acts 15 that answers this question.

Acts 15,28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you. Fare ye well

Any answer that does not take this verse into account is simply wrong. Note that Paul, when dealing with questions like fornication or other sins, does never recur to OT commands, but argues from Christ and us being a part of His body. And what the site you quote says is not only wrong, it is exactly what we are warned against:

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day:

This cannot be overturned by a person that has many words and worldly wisdom to lure us into seeing the Sabbath as a point of judgement. It is a matter of personal taste, fullstop.