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[Psalm 27]

But Jesus said it, yes?

I don’t teach, because I’m a woman. “do not permit a woman to teach...” 1 Tim. 2:12

 

[Justin-H.S.]

I just received the book. The autograph is addressed to a Mother Xenia. Anyone have any possible ideas who Mother Xenia might be? Probably not but you never know

I got this on Audible. I fell asleep to it, so a revisit will be necessary.

 

[Justin-H.S.]

Jesus is The Word/Logos but when it comes to study. There’s only one book

Correct. Jesus is the Word of God, but when it comes to study there are more than just one book. The Bible is a liturgical book, and it's good to read it.

"Studying" the Bible is a Protestant phenomenon, because Protestants assume the ancient Church had printing presses in the catacombs. Nay. "Studying the Bible" is a modern notion only possible when books can be pressed out in a matter of days instead of handwritten in many months.

 

[ArmyMatt]

No

then why would St Paul call himself a father, and lament that there weren't enough?

 

[Psalm 27]

The ‘great’ apostle Paul uses the word “father” in an analogical, qualified manner.
In 1 Corinthians 4:15, Paul uses “father” as a metaphor, and he qualifies his use of “father” by adding “in Jesus Christ through the gospel.”
Paul is referring to his gospel ministry among the Corinthians, through which many of the Corinthians were initially exposed to the message of the Cross (Paul being the one who “planted” the gospel in Corinth [1 Cor 3:6].) In Philippians 2:22, Paul is using a simile to describe his ministry with Timothy “in the gospel;” a mentoring relationship is in view.

What Paul does not do in these passages is begin using “father” as a formal religious title.
Notice how Paul introduces himself in his letters. He normally refers to himself as a “servant” (as in Philippians 1:1) or- especially when writing responses to churches in which his authority was being questioned to some degree- he refers to Christ’s calling upon his life, establishing his apostleship. What Paul does not do in his letters is ever refer to himself as “Father Paul.” (A. Lindsey)

 

[Lukaris]

Luke 16:19-31, the condemned rich man calls Abraham “father” & Abraham calls him “son”.

( see vs 24, 25)

 

[Psalm 27]

Luke 16:19-31, the condemned rich man calls Abraham “father” & Abraham calls him “son”.

The parable?

 

[Lukaris]

The parable?

Yes, CF directly links to scripture.

 

[Justin-H.S.]

Luke 16:19-31, the condemned rich man calls Abraham “father” & Abraham calls him “son”.

( see vs 24, 25)

You're just falling into the Protestant game of comparing study notes to see who wins the debate. What happens is the Protestant then pulls you down to their level.

The Protestant needs to justify their First Principle: What is the Bible?

 

[Justin-H.S.]

Yes, CF directly links to scripture.

All she's going to do is copy paste another Protestant commentary.

Spent too much time in the Protestant camp that you're even falling into their debate traps.

Video is relevant:

 

[prodromos]

The ‘great’ apostle Paul uses the word “father” in an analogical, qualified manner.
In 1 Corinthians 4:15, Paul uses “father” as a metaphor, and he qualifies his use of “father” by adding “in Jesus Christ through the gospel.”
Paul is referring to his gospel ministry among the Corinthians, through which many of the Corinthians were initially exposed to the message of the Cross (Paul being the one who “planted” the gospel in Corinth [1 Cor 3:6].) In Philippians 2:22, Paul is using a simile to describe his ministry with Timothy “in the gospel;” a mentoring relationship is in view.

What Paul does not do in these passages is begin using “father” as a formal religious title.
Notice how Paul introduces himself in his letters. He normally refers to himself as a “servant” (as in Philippians 1:1) or- especially when writing responses to churches in which his authority was being questioned to some degree- he refers to Christ’s calling upon his life, establishing his apostleship. What Paul does not do in his letters is ever refer to himself as “Father Paul.” (A. Lindsey)

Who is Andrew Lindsey?

 

[Lukaris]

You're just falling into the Protestant game of comparing study notes to see who wins the debate. What happens is the Protestant then pulls you down to their level.

The Protestant needs to justify their First Principle: What is the Bible?

I am trying to relate in a way Psalm 27 might appreciate.

All she's going to do is copy paste another Protestant commentary.

Spent too much time in the Protestant camp that you're even falling into their debate traps.

Video is relevant:

Ok, I was all right with your first post ( don’t worry nothing real serious here either) but, my conversion to Orthodoxy was basically Bible oriented. It involved years of discussion with my one uncle who was cradle Orthodox but Protestantized because his father pulled my dad’s family out of the Church when they were young. I love our parish but there was some drama when my grandparents lived in the 1930s & 40s ( like Aftimios Ofesh: Aftimios Ofiesh - Wikipedia
Our original discussion did not specifically involve Orthodoxy but as time progressed, I realized Christianity was right under my nose. My uncle’s basic faith helped me to become Orthodox & he rejoined the Church in his last years.

 

[Lukaris]

All she's going to do is copy paste another Protestant commentary.

Spent too much time in the Protestant camp that you're even falling into their debate traps.

Video is relevant:

Interestingly, my one maternal great grandfathers probably died in a similar trap in the battle of Wyoming: Battle of Wyoming - Wikipedia

 

[ArmyMatt]

The ‘great’ apostle Paul uses the word “father” in an analogical, qualified manner.
In 1 Corinthians 4:15, Paul uses “father” as a metaphor, and he qualifies his use of “father” by adding “in Jesus Christ through the gospel.”
Paul is referring to his gospel ministry among the Corinthians, through which many of the Corinthians were initially exposed to the message of the Cross (Paul being the one who “planted” the gospel in Corinth [1 Cor 3:6].) In Philippians 2:22, Paul is using a simile to describe his ministry with Timothy “in the gospel;” a mentoring relationship is in view.

What Paul does not do in these passages is begin using “father” as a formal religious title.
Notice how Paul introduces himself in his letters. He normally refers to himself as a “servant” (as in Philippians 1:1) or- especially when writing responses to churches in which his authority was being questioned to some degree- he refers to Christ’s calling upon his life, establishing his apostleship. What Paul does not do in his letters is ever refer to himself as “Father Paul.” (A. Lindsey)

so what? the Bible doesn't say to listen to A Lindsey either.

 

[Psalm 27]

Who is Andrew Lindsey?

How did you know his name was Andrew.
Just a commentary I saw

 

[Psalm 27]

Interestingly, my one maternal great grandfathers probably died in a similar trap in the battle of Wyoming: Battle of Wyoming - Wikipedia

 

[prodromos]

How did you know his name was Andrew.
Just a commentary I saw

I looked up what you quoted. So who is he and why should we care what he thinks?

 

[Psalm 27]

All she's going to do is copy paste another Protestant commentary.

Spent too much time in the Protestant camp that you're even falling into their debate traps.

Video is relevant:

The Bible is;
A historical account, of the existence of The Christ.

 

[Psalm 27]

I looked up what you quoted. So who is he and why should we care what he thinks?

Or what any of us thinks
Didn’t even know he was a proddy dog

 

[Psalm 27]

so what? the Bible doesn't say to listen to A Lindsey either.

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