Adam ?

[miknik5]

How come Eve's sin didn't affect her genetically?

It did

"Adams" can't have children apart from "Eves" who would be the mother of all living and who brought forth both perishable male and female offspring

 

[Sammy-San]

Why do you think it didn't? The punishment for sin is death and before the sin, Adam and Chavah (Eve's biblical name) were not to die. But as soon as they sinned, a clock began to tick, their bodies began to break down, and eventually they succumb to wage of sin. The only reasonable explanation is that something changed inside of them and that something was passed on to all who would follow.

mothers have sin as original sinners but they don't have it in their eggs, I thought at least.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Why do you think it didn't? The punishment for sin is death and before the sin, Adam and Chavah (Eve's biblical name) were not to die. But as soon as they sinned, a clock began to tick, their bodies began to break down, and eventually they succumb to wage of sin. The only reasonable explanation is that something changed inside of them and that something was passed on to all who would follow.

God had said "Thou shalt not eat..." They were thrown out of paradise to toil the land for their bread, whereas prior, they could eat freely from all the trees in the garden but one...Eve added to the words of God and reasoned until she 'saw that the tree was good for food'...Truth cast down became a serpent...

Perceiving/eyesight changed, seeing from somewhere else...no longer in a garden without a serpent (to reason with) and God asking "Where art thou?" In relation to our soul, and the other side of the same coin, no one can reason with God without becoming clean. And Jesus said 'take no thought what you shall eat...'Christ The Door (back) to LIFE...which has to do with what "changed inside of them" - Jesus telling us 'the Kingdom is within'...and "If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth."

 

[miknik5]

mothers have sin as original sinners but they don't have it in their eggs, I thought at least.

All children are brought forth of perishable seed

And all in Adam will die


One must be born again of the IMPERISHSBLE SEED of CHRIST


Both the male
And the female

 

[miknik5]

God had said "Thou shalt not eat..." They were thrown out of paradise to toil the land for their bread, whereas prior, they could eat freely from all the trees in the garden but one...Eve added to the words of God and reasoned until she 'saw that the tree was good for food'...Truth cast down became a serpent...

Perceiving/eyesight changed, seeing from somewhere else...no longer in a garden without a serpent (to reason with) and God asking "Where art thou?" In relation to our soul, and the other side of the same coin, no one can reason with God without becoming clean. And Jesus said 'take no thought what you shall eat...'Christ The Door (back) to LIFE...which has to do with what "changed inside of them" - Jesus telling us 'the Kingdom is within'...and "If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth."

And John 15 is truth that had HE not come and dine amongst us what no other we would have no son

But now we need a "cloke" for our sins

Adam AND Eve were BOTH sent out from GOD's PRESENCE covered in a tainted second covering of skins and the WAY blocked lest Adam AND Eve
have access to the "tree of LIFE"


There is only ONE COVERKNG provided to man which is THE ONLY WAY back into the PRESENCE of GOD for both Adam AND Eve

 

[miknik5]

Eve's sin was not intentional and deliberate

In fact it was already foretold by GOD that "man" would eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Something GOD commanded the "man" (which HE called both male AND female) not to do


GOD said "do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

FOR IN THE DAY YOU EAT OF IT


Showing GOD already foreknew there would be THAT DAY when we/Adam/man/mankind would

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

mothers have sin as original sinners but they don't have it in their eggs, I thought at least.

"that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption." It is not the body, but what lives inside...the body is a temple that houses the spirit of God...and the change of eyesight that came to Adam and Eve separated them from paradise. The Kingdom is within...

 

[miknik5]

"that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption." It is not the body, but what lives inside...the body is a temple that houses the spirit of God...and the change of eyesight that came to Adam and Eve separated them from paradise. The Kingdom is within...

Not all are born again of HIS LIFE GIVING SPIRIT

Not all have the RIGHT GARMENT

Not all are in CHRIST

And those in Adam will die

What was taken out of Adam and was brought forth of perishable seed and will die (both physically and spiritually) is being put back into the ONE BODY of CHRIST and brought forth of IMPERISHABLE SEED as a NEW CREATION IN CHRIST

And not all are IN CHRIST for not all believe THE WISDOM of GOD which is CHRIST and THE MESSAGE of THE CROSS

 

[miknik5]

The cross is foolishness ro those who are perishing

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Eve's sin was not intentional and deliberate

In fact it was already foretold by GOD that "man" would eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Something GOD commanded the "man" (which HE called both male AND female) not to do


GOD said "do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

FOR IN THE DAY YOU EAT OF IT


Showing GOD already foreknew there would be THAT DAY when we/Adam/man/mankind would

God had a purpose and plan from the beginning..."Behold the Lamb...slain before the foundation of the world."

 

[miknik5]

He who believes in ME though he (physically) die shall live

And he who believes in ME and (physically) lives shall never die

He who loves his (physical) life (and all it's comforts) shall lose it

He who loses his (physical life and all its comforts putting these things as second before GOD) for ME and THE GOSPEL shall find it and keep it to eternal life

 

[Ken Rank]

mothers have sin as original sinners but they don't have it in their eggs, I thought at least.

Sam, Eve sinned but man didn't fall until Adam sinned. Go read it... things changed when he sinned because God gave that command directly to Adam. Adam then, as head of his house, gave that command to his wife. She really went against his word, whereas Adam went directly against God's word.

So I don't think her egg or the egg of anyone else is tainted... I think we are dealing with DNA, the code each one of us has that says who and what we will be. And in that code, I believe, is a gene that causes us to die at a certain point.

In the new covenant, it says that God will write His law on our minds and hearts? I think that MIGHT BE idiomatic... I think His law is actually going to be written in our DNA and simply become part of who and what we will be.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Not all are born again of HIS LIFE GIVING SPIRIT

Not all have the RIGHT GARMENT

Not all are in CHRIST

And those in Adam will die

What was taken out of Adam and was brought forth of perishable seed and will die (both physically and spiritually) is being put back into the ONE BODY of CHRIST and brought forth of IMPERISHABLE SEED as a NEW CREATION IN CHRIST

And not all are IN CHRIST for not all believe THE WISDOM of GOD which is CHRIST and THE MESSAGE of THE CROSS

No, not all have entered IN through The Door/Christ. He can only give us what we can 'see' as possible/hope for. Which has everything to do with where we are perceiving from and the question God asked Adam, "Where art thou?" The New Creation brought forth by the Word/Seed of The Father...becoming a son through The Son...The Door (back)

 

[miknik5]

Sam, Eve sinned but man didn't fall until Adam sinned. Go read it... things changed when he sinned because God gave that command directly to Adam. Adam then, as head of his house, gave that command to his wife. She really went against his word, whereas Adam went directly against God's word.

So I don't think her egg or the egg of anyone else is tainted... I think we are dealing with DNA, the code each one of us has that says who and what we will be. And in that code, I believe, is a gene that causes us to die at a certain point.

In the new covenant, it says that God will write His law on our minds and hearts? I think that MIGHT BE idiomatic... I think His law is actually going to be written in our DNA and simply become part of who and what we will be.

So if Adam hadn't sinned, GOD, after having created male and female in HIS IMAGE and declaring it good, would have recreated another "Eve/helpmate" for Adam?

How long before the next "Eve"
Or their offspring (regardless of sex) would disobey?

 

[miknik5]

You already understand that Eve, taken from Adam was fresh of his flesh and bone of his bone

But not spirit of his spirit

Are any children born of man perfect spirit and the spiritual likeness of their father?

Nope
And
No

 

[miknik5]

Even Jacob and Esau, in the same womb of their mother were brought forth quite different spiritually


And still not perfect



GOD didn't make any mistakes

And Eve didn't pull a fast one on GOD

Nothing was overlooked in GOD's plan of salvation

And GOD did not go back and recreate either "another Adam" or "another Eve"


HE sent HIS SON in the pattern of "Adam" to do what Adam could not and never could do

Which GOD already knew from the beginning

 

[miknik5]

GOD is at work even now taking out from Adam and bringing into CHRIST HIS own

 

[miknik5]

If you have sons and daughters you must know that everyone of them is different from the other and that there is not one of them (even if their natural father is as good as a man can be) who clearly reflects and perfectly mirrors his natural father

Let alone his FATHER in Heaven

 

[miknik5]

There is only ONE AON who is the perfect image of THE FATHER

And the sons and daughters of this world are all called to look to and follow HIM

 

[Ken Rank]

So if Adam hadn't sinned, GOD, after having created male and female in HIS IMAGE and declaring it good, would have recreated another "Eve/helpmate" for Adam?

How long before the next "Eve"
Or their offspring (regardless of sex) would disobey?

For some reason I kind of feel like you have a tone here? Look, just go back and read it... they didn't see they were naked when she ate. Nothing happened when she ate, things changed when he did.