Adam ?

[Aseyesee]

David never accused GOD for his sins

And it was solomons sins that rent the kingdom

And for the sake of HOS SERVANT, David, GOD kept two kingdoms

Did you look, or know of the two accounts of David numbering the people?

Also wasn't referring to David about an accusation, an accusation is implied by saying he doesn't, like darkness being evil by declaring light as good.

 

[miknik5]

Did you look, or know of the two accounts of David numbering the people?

Also wasn't referring to David about an accusation, an accusation is implied by saying he doesn't, like darkness being evil by declaring light as good.

David shouldn't have numbered the people. He has already seen GOD's hand in his victory over his enemies There was no need for David to number his men.

He knew afterwards that what he did was wrong. And he paid a consequence for his wrong choice

And if I remember correctly, David had the heart of a priest and did not want GOD to let the people suffer the plague for his mistake

 

[miknik5]

Miriam grumbled against Moses
She suffered for her wrong doing
And what did Moses do?

He interceded for her

That is the work of a priest before GOD and that is the corrent ministry of CHRIST as THE LAMB of GOD

Our work as a royal priesthood was to point all to THE DOOR

Before the DOOR closes

 

[miknik5]

Adam and Ezekiel are not THE DOOR unto THE KINGDOM

 

[miknik5]

Not my point.

Things are not what they appear to be, which is why I imagine Peter would even consider telling Jesus that he shouldn't throw his life away.

No point in the question

It is moot

 

[miknik5]

No one is tempted of GOD, sir

Who tempts us in this world

Is it the same one who tempted Adam and Eve?

Actually sir

You didn't answer my question

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Binding on earth and in heaven is about how the disciples decided to proceed with the kingdom after Jesus left. That has nothing to do with continued growth in spirit after we leave earth.

"Happy are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they shall be filled."

What did you think we were going to do in the afterlife, sit around for an eternity?

When we physically die, whatever state we are in (spiritually) is how we will be for eternity. Until the resurrection, we sleep. Some will be raised up unto eternal life and given their inheritance as promised, some to utter destruction.

Jesus says in Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Prior to this statement, HIS whole discourse is about how much we are to loathe sin...to the point of cutting off our hand if it offends and if we see a brother sin, to point it out to him. HE talks about how if the brother refuses to listen, to "treat them as a heathen."

We must always look at scripture within context. Jesus was talking about ceasing from sin. And we know scripture tells us that

Mark 9:43

Scripture is very clear on who will inherit the Kingdom. Psalm 24:1-4

 

[miknik5]

When we physically die, whatever state we are in (spiritually) is how we will be for eternity. Until the resurrection, we sleep. Some will be raised up unto eternal life and given their inheritance as promised, some to utter destruction.

Jesus says in Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Prior to this statement, HIS whole discourse is about how much we are to loathe sin...to the point of cutting off our hand if it offends and if we see a brother sin, to point it out to him. HE talks about how if the brother refuses to listen, to "treat them as a heathen."

We must always look at scripture within context. Jesus was talking about ceasing from sin. And we know scripture tells us that

Mark 9:43

Scripture is very clear on who will inherit the Kingdom. Psalm 24:1-4

Prior to HIS saying I will give you the keys to THE KINGDOM HE was discussing who men say HE is

It was when Peter made a true confession of who CHRIST is that HE said to him I will give you the keys to THE KINGDOM

Please review Matthew 16 in context again

 

[Colter]

When we physically die, whatever state we are in (spiritually) is how we will be for eternity. Until the resurrection, we sleep. Some will be raised up unto eternal life and given their inheritance as promised, some to utter destruction.

Jesus says in Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Prior to this statement, HIS whole discourse is about how much we are to loathe sin...to the point of cutting off our hand if it offends and if we see a brother sin, to point it out to him. HE talks about how if the brother refuses to listen, to "treat them as a heathen."

We must always look at scripture within context. Jesus was talking about ceasing from sin. And we know scripture tells us that

Mark 9:43

Scripture is very clear on who will inherit the Kingdom. Psalm 24:1-4

You are preaching about something different than the issue of continued growth in the next life.

 

[Colter]

Prior to HIS saying I will give you the keys to THE KINGDOM HE was discussing who men say HE is

It was when Peter made a true confession of who CHRIST is that HE said to him I will give you the keys to THE KINGDOM

Please review Matthew 16 in context again

When Jesus gave them the keys, he was transferring his leadership to the Apostles. Sometimes people make things more complicated than they are. He was saying that however they decide to proceed will be respected on high.

 

[miknik5]

You are preaching about something different than the issue of continued growth in the next life.

What are you growing to if you haven't attained the goal of your faith already?

And if you have attained the goal of your faith, what more do you need?

 

[miknik5]

Do you know the goal of your faith colter

 

[Aseyesee]

Actually sir

You didn't answer my question

Somethings should go without saying.

God in form is an absolute, yet no end to this form of I am, that I am, his truth is continual coming with there never being an end to this truth that he is. To not believe that is to believe one could exhaust the knowledge of God as it relates to God, by us being in him and he in us, it is a place of no separation when your cross is fully, and continually embraced. Outside of this there is the duality of the tree which even things like debate are a product of. (Right wrong left right above below light dark good son ...) It was Jesus, or according to his words the father that said, you cannot add to yourself by thought.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

All sons are born into the world of woman
But not all sons who come into the world can say they have GOD as their TRUE FATHER

(HE came in the pattern of Adam)

Who was Adam's FATHER?


Who is CHRIST's FATHER?

What about the New Creation that Jesus was the firstborn among many brethren?

Galatians 4:6-7

2 Corinthians 6:17-18

Revelation 21:7

John 8:44

John 14:10

Matthew 10:18-20

1 Peter 1:23-25

 

[miknik5]

Somethings should go without saying.

God in form is an absolute, yet no end to this form of I am, that I am, his truth is continual coming with there never being an end to this truth that he is. To not believe that is to believe one could exhaust the knowledge of God as it relates to God, by us being in him and he in us, it is is place of no separation when your cross is fully, and cont8ually embraced. Outside of this there is the duality of the tree which even things like debate are a product of. It was Jesus, or according to his words the father that said, you cannot add to yourself by thought.

It is JESUS who also said I am the alpha and the omega

HE is
Yes that is TRUE
COMPLETE
From beginning to end, there is no change in HIM...HE does not strive from point A to reach point B


We do

And it's only in HIM that we have our TRUE be"ing"


BE"ing" the suffix alone shows motion. A constant moving and striving to reach an end point

Alpha beginning
Omega end

CHRIST

The author and finisher of our faith

 

[miknik5]

I AM the WAY and THE TRUTH and THE LIFE

No man comes to the FATHER except through ME


How much more "truth" is needed

 

[Aseyesee]

No point in the question

It is moot

Opinion, left right good bad ... free will is not a mute point. It is a law in our mind, something unbreakable so to speak, as much as the giving up of it leads to life, and the keeping of it unto death.

 

[Colter]

What are you growing to if you haven't attained the goal of your faith already?

And if you have attained the goal of your faith, what more do you need?

The goal of my faith, of Gods will, is for us to grow up and become like he is, so our growth never ends. Learning never stops.

The common self centered goal of Christianity is eternal laziness. There will be much, much more to do and experience after this short life.

 

[miknik5]

I AM that I AM means exactly what is said

No change
No adding to or taking away from what is COMPLETE

CHRIST came to manifest THE FATHER

And because HE came forth from
THE FATHER HE alone had all authority to show/manifest/declare THE FATHER

 

[Colter]

I AM the WAY and THE TRUTH and THE LIFE

No man comes to the FATHER except through ME


How much more "truth" is needed

After we finish growing under the Sons authority and in his jurisdiction, he will bid us farewell as we make our way inward towards the Father.