Adam ?

[Aseyesee]

All God created is "good". He gave "free will" two men and angels.

Is good still good if you know evil will come from your acts that you called good? And how much more so if you knew that it would before you did?

 

[Aseyesee]

More to the point evil is the absence of Good. Evil is nothing and Good is something.

Ignorance is that absence of understanding.

 

[Aseyesee]

No person nor spirit has ever been or become "perfect". Only the spirit of the triune God is without flaw

Not what the Hebrews writer thought, but inside the spirit of the triune God is where we are. Is there now imperfection in God because of this?

 

[Aseyesee]

Only if you are also suggesting that Ezekiel being called son of man is no different than JESUS being called THE SON of man

If it is no different then he never became one of us, therefore could not be tempted as one of us.

 

[miknik5]

If it is no different then he never became one of us, therefore could not be tempted as one of us.

Then as GOD told Cain "master them"

Or as Paul said "discipline yourself"

 

[miknik5]

The meaning I left to those who read the question to determine.

... yep, God was the responsible party, and in a garden the death of innocence.

Nope

GOD foreknew Adam/mankind/our fall

But more importantly HE foreknew he victory in HIS SON

 

[miknik5]

If it is no different then he never became one of us, therefore could not be tempted as one of us.

HE came not only to "show us THE FATHER" but to model for men the exact relationship a son of GOD is to have with THE FATHER

We will suffer in this world
HE said in this world you will have trouble
But take heart for I have overcome the world (for us - provided we continue steadfast in what we began in)

1 John 5 will give you the description of those who overcome

 

[miknik5]

Technically he is his mother's son, or seed of the woman.

All sons are born into the world of woman
But not all sons who come into the world can say they have GOD as their TRUE FATHER

(HE came in the pattern of Adam)

Who was Adam's FATHER?


Who is CHRIST's FATHER?

 

[Aseyesee]

Then as GOD told Cain "master them"

Or as Paul said "discipline yourself"

If you are not one of us, you cannot be tempted as one of us, which basically is said about his priesthood, isn't it?

 

[miknik5]

Ignorance is that absence of understanding.

The message of the cross is foolishness to some

 

[Aseyesee]

Nope

GOD foreknew Adam/mankind/our fall

But more importantly HE foreknew he victory in HIS SON

Would there be anything outside of God without God?

 

[miknik5]

If you are not one of us, you cannot be tempted as one of us, which basically is said about his priesthood, isn't it?

Then you are perfect and your sanctification is complete

You have no need for the ONE who makes men holy to make you any more holier than you are

 

[miknik5]

No one is tempted of GOD, sir

Who tempts us in this world

Is it the same one who tempted Adam and Eve?

 

[Aseyesee]

The message of the cross is foolishness to some

Death seems an unlikely route to life, no different then Lot when he beheld the portion he would choose that appeared to him to be as the garden of God.

 

[miknik5]

Would there be anything outside of God without God?

Yes. Without GOD there would be those outside

 

[miknik5]

Death seems an unlikely route to life, no different then Lot when he beheld the portion he would choose that appeared to him to be as the garden of God.

Wrong "garden". And Lot recognized it which is why he sat outside its gates and tried to protect and deter those who were entering this particular "garden"

Lot did the work of a priest before GOD before those men who couldn't discipline themselves

 

[Aseyesee]

No one is tempted of GOD, sir

Who tempts us in this world

How did God get around this accusation with David when he wanted to judge israel?

 

[Aseyesee]

Yes. Without GOD there would be those outside

Not an answer to the question ... Would there be a need for a hell if God never created angels?

 

[Aseyesee]

Wrong "garden". And Lot recognized it which is why he sat outside its gates and tried to protect and deter those who were entering this particular "garden"

Not my point.

Things are not what they appear to be, which is why I imagine Peter would even consider telling Jesus that he shouldn't throw his life away.

 

[miknik5]

How did God get around this accusation with David when he wanted to judge israel?

David never accused GOD for his sins

And it was solomons sins that rent the kingdom

And for the sake of HOS SERVANT, David, GOD kept two kingdoms