Absolute proof.. can't deny.. the earth is flat

[Bradskii]

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No

Of course not. There is no answer. The most basic question anyone could ask you is: 'If it's flat, what does it look like?' And you've shown us (you even used your map to do some weird 'proof' of where the moon is). Then we can check to see if it matches reality.

And it doesn't work. You can't have a flat earth and not fly over the States if you travel from Sydney to Santiago. That distance is shown to be much, much longer than a flight to L.A. But the times are both 12 1/2 and 13 hours (and the L.A. time is the shorter one!).

All you had to do was check flight times. All you had to do was look at flight routes. All you had to do was get someone to fly both routes to confirm it. Lucky you. That someone was me.

 

[prodromos]

Of course not. There is no answer. The most basic question anyone could ask you is: 'If it's flat, what does it look like?' And you've shown us (you even used your map to do some weird 'proof' of where the moon is). Then we can check to see if it matches reality.

And it doesn't work. You can't have a flat earth and not fly over the States if you travel from Sydney to Santiago. That distance is shown to be much, much longer than a flight to L.A. But the times are both 12 1/2 and 13 hours (and the L.A. time is the shorter one!).

All you had to do was check flight times. All you had to do was look at flight routes. All you had to do was get someone to fly both routes to confirm it. Lucky you. That someone was me.

Just shows that flat earth is 'faith based' and not evidence based. They refuse to look into the evidence because it runs counter to their faith.

Flat earthers give a range of values of how far away the sun and moon are, but despite how easy it would be to collaborate with each other to use triangulation from their positions and calculate the distance, it is something flat earthers will never do, because they know the results they get will absolutely demolish their claims.

 

[Jipsah]

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Actually my photo of the moon, proves two points. The flat earth map is correct (or close enough) and that the moon is located miles above the earth and not in a made up outer space 200,000+ miles away from earth.​

And I'm your sainted grandmother.

 

[Jipsah]

I do not need too, the moon being in the raqia (dome), as placed by God. Has been obvious and not 200,000+ miles away in a made up outer space.

And is made of green cheese.

It is people like you who have your nose stuck in the science books who can not see the obvious.

Only if you've decided that ahead of time and aren't interested in the way things actually are. Nothing there but misplaced faith.

 

[Laodicean60]

I don't know if this was asked but how come there are no photos of the bottom of the earth? It would be interesting to see the core.

 

[Jipsah]

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No

Of course not. Anything that doesn't tally with your made up astronomical beliefs you simply deny or ignore.

The trick is that if the Bible actually means what you think it means, then both you and the Bible are wrong.

The Bible is giving an idea of the Creation that can be grasped by people several thousand years ago, who lacked the knowledge to understand Astronomy 101. There's no way they could understood the reality of the universe as God actually created it, any more than a first grader can understand Euclidean Geometry. Is it literally true? No, and wasn't meant to be.

You can cling to a child's uinderstanding if you liike, but don't imagine that it's a more Christian position. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Christian Faith, and in fact serves to make Christians look, at best, like eccentrics and loonies, and at worst, like ignoramuses.

 

[Jipsah]

Any thoughts on why it takes longer to fly to LA than Santiago from Sydney?

Satanical deception.

 

[prodromos]

Satanical deception.

It's the Rocky Horror Picture Show! We're doing the time warp!

 

[MForbes]

Satanical deception.

No. Pure, unadulterated stupidity.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Of course not. There is no answer. The most basic question anyone could ask you is: 'If it's flat, what does it look like?' And you've shown us (you even used your map to do some weird 'proof' of where the moon is). Then we can check to see if it matches reality.

And it doesn't work. You can't have a flat earth and not fly over the States if you travel from Sydney to Santiago. That distance is shown to be much, much longer than a flight to L.A. But the times are both 12 1/2 and 13 hours (and the L.A. time is the shorter one!).

All you had to do was check flight times. All you had to do was look at flight routes. All you had to do was get someone to fly both routes to confirm it. Lucky you. That someone was me.

The easiest way to explain the time difference is the jet stream.

 

[Bradskii]

The easiest way to explain the time difference is the jet stream.

If the flights were in opposite directions there may be a slight difference in speed. But they're not.

If the flight to LA takes 13 hours and then you continue on to Santiago and you get there half an hour before you got to LA then something is wrong with the map. Or you're flying Tardis Airlines.

 

[Jipsah]

The easiest way to explain the time difference is the jet stream

"Explain" should have scare quotes.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

If the flights were in opposite directions there may be a slight difference in speed. But they're not.

If the flight to LA takes 13 hours and then you continue on to Santiago and you get there half an hour before you got to LA then something is wrong with the map. Or you're flying Tardis Airlines.

Fly Tardis, were bigger on the inside.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

"Explain" should have scare quotes.

I was expecting someone to ask me how a jet stream is possible on a flat earth.

 

[Bradskii]

Fly Tardis, were bigger on the inside.

Then again, if the plane I'm in started making noises like the Tardis does, then I'm starting to panic.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Then again, if the plane I'm in started making noises like the Tardis does, then I'm starting to panic.

Just tell the Captain to release the hand break.

 

[d taylor]

Of course not. There is no answer. The most basic question anyone could ask you is: 'If it's flat, what does it look like?' And you've shown us (you even used your map to do some weird 'proof' of where the moon is). Then we can check to see if it matches reality.

And it doesn't work. You can't have a flat earth and not fly over the States if you travel from Sydney to Santiago. That distance is shown to be much, much longer than a flight to L.A. But the times are both 12 1/2 and 13 hours (and the L.A. time is the shorter one!).

All you had to do was check flight times. All you had to do was look at flight routes. All you had to do was get someone to fly both routes to confirm it. Lucky you. That someone was me.

Give me the time it takes a ship to navigate on water the same route your airplane ride takes to go from Australia to Chile. Then give me the time it takes a ship to navigate on water the route from Los Angles to Australia that your airplane route takes.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Just shows that flat earth is 'faith based' and not evidence based. They refuse to look into the evidence because it runs counter to their faith.

Flat earthers give a range of values of how far away the sun and moon are, but despite how easy it would be to collaborate with each other to use triangulation from their positions and calculate the distance, it is something flat earthers will never do, because they know the results they get will absolutely demolish their claims.

"Faith" is based on fact if it is real faith. FE people are presumptuous. They start with a false premise and paint themselves into a corner when faced with the evidence to the contrary. It's rather like the "Black Knight" scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail.

 

[Bradskii]

Give me the time it takes a ship to navigate on water the same route your airplane ride takes to go from Australia to Chile. Then give me the time it takes a ship to navigate on water the route from Los Angles to Australia that your airplane route takes.

Flights go directly from one city to the other. Ships don't. But feel free to look for some.

And you have flight times, distances and routes. You are in denial. Your map is wrong.

When you've checked that, explain why I can drive from Melbourne to Cairns in the same time as I can from Melbourne to Perth. And you can use any means to check the distances. Your map shows one to be about 4x longer than the other. Your map is wrong.

 

[d taylor]

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I wonder what good science will be to these globe earth unbelievers in the lake of fire.