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Very good post!!! Yes I agree! God knows all of us and when He sees a baby concieved, He sees the person the child will become after birth walking an
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Originally posted by Pray4Isrel
For those who want a Biblical stance on the issue of abortion, check this out:
Psalm 139:13 For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother's womb.
Psalm 139:14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well.
Psalm 139:15 My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret , And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth;
Psalm 139:16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them.
"For you formed my inward parts" - This clearly and concisely speaks of God forming/creating the life withing the womb. If God has created life then life starts at conception since God is the forming the parts. This speaks of the role God plays in each childs forming in the womb. Undeniably, God has formed the child so the child is not a mass of cells - the child is a living breathing baby.
"You wove me in my mother's womb" - This also speaks of God's "weaving" of the life within the womb. Meaning the distinct formation of the baby. You see, even though the baby does not look like a baby this early in the pregnancy, it is still a baby. God is involved with the pregnancy and has taken part in the proces. He would not want us to kill what He has created.
"I will give thanks to you for I am fearfully and wonderfully made" - David sees the complexity of the creation of life. from the very color of our eyes, the hair color we have, the coor of our skin, even doen to the allergies we may have - all of these are astonishing - that all of these traits are coded in our DNA at conception. (and this is also scientifically proven). If God's creation is fearfully and wonderfully made, why destroy it.
"Wonderful are your works and my soul knows it very well" - These "works" David is speaking of are the details of the creation of life. His soul knows these things meaning there is spiritual significance to life. We are created with souls.
"My frame was not hidden from you" - There is no stage of the pregnancy where the baby is "hidden" from God or unknown. If God knows each stage of life then there is no acceptable stage to kill.
"When I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth" - this speaks of the special intimacy in "secret" when a child is conceived. This proves life begins at conception since he was made "In secret" - which conception is the exact moment - a secret moment. God is involved in each life no matter where on this earth we are. rejoice in that fact that God had His hand in your very creation from conception. This is why babies with defects should not be aborted. God does not make mistakes. If he forms us in our mother's womb then He formed us perfectly no matter what we chose to label as a defect.
"Your eyes have seen my unformed substance" - this is the proof - the biblical evidence - that abortion is wrong, that life begins at conception. For God has seen our unformed substance. though still forming, God sees us! We are alive at conception. Once again, a baby might not look like a baby at conception but it is a baby!
"And in your book were all written the days that were ordained for me" - If God ordains our each and every day - records our lives in His book - He has a purpose for us. By aborting a child we are ending the book. We are rewriting our own ending. We make Him weep for every child we kill. For He has a wonderful story for each of us. How dare we end Almighty God's amazing ordained and created lives stretched before us by aborting. Imagine writing a story - a parental love story for a precious daughter or son only to have that son or daughter murdered and never given the chance to live the dream.
"when as yet there was not one of them" - This is another evidence of the sanctity of life. God knows each day before we are even conceived. Why rip away His creation from Him? he created the life - who are we to destroy it? God knows all our days before we even exist here on earth.
This is one of many cases against abortion in the Bible as well as Biblical proof for life at conception.
Originally posted by Pray4Isrel
For those who want a Biblical stance on the issue of abortion, check this out:
Psalm 139:13 For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother's womb.
Psalm 139:14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well.
Psalm 139:15 My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret , And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth;
Psalm 139:16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them.
"For you formed my inward parts" - This clearly and concisely speaks of God forming/creating the life withing the womb. If God has created life then life starts at conception since God is the forming the parts. This speaks of the role God plays in each childs forming in the womb. Undeniably, God has formed the child so the child is not a mass of cells - the child is a living breathing baby.
"You wove me in my mother's womb" - This also speaks of God's "weaving" of the life within the womb. Meaning the distinct formation of the baby. You see, even though the baby does not look like a baby this early in the pregnancy, it is still a baby. God is involved with the pregnancy and has taken part in the proces. He would not want us to kill what He has created.
"I will give thanks to you for I am fearfully and wonderfully made" - David sees the complexity of the creation of life. from the very color of our eyes, the hair color we have, the coor of our skin, even doen to the allergies we may have - all of these are astonishing - that all of these traits are coded in our DNA at conception. (and this is also scientifically proven). If God's creation is fearfully and wonderfully made, why destroy it.
"Wonderful are your works and my soul knows it very well" - These "works" David is speaking of are the details of the creation of life. His soul knows these things meaning there is spiritual significance to life. We are created with souls.
"My frame was not hidden from you" - There is no stage of the pregnancy where the baby is "hidden" from God or unknown. If God knows each stage of life then there is no acceptable stage to kill.
"When I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth" - this speaks of the special intimacy in "secret" when a child is conceived. This proves life begins at conception since he was made "In secret" - which conception is the exact moment - a secret moment. God is involved in each life no matter where on this earth we are. rejoice in that fact that God had His hand in your very creation from conception. This is why babies with defects should not be aborted. God does not make mistakes. If he forms us in our mother's womb then He formed us perfectly no matter what we chose to label as a defect.
"Your eyes have seen my unformed substance" - this is the proof - the biblical evidence - that abortion is wrong, that life begins at conception. For God has seen our unformed substance. though still forming, God sees us! We are alive at conception. Once again, a baby might not look like a baby at conception but it is a baby!
"And in your book were all written the days that were ordained for me" - If God ordains our each and every day - records our lives in His book - He has a purpose for us. By aborting a child we are ending the book. We are rewriting our own ending. We make Him weep for every child we kill. For He has a wonderful story for each of us. How dare we end Almighty God's amazing ordained and created lives stretched before us by aborting. Imagine writing a story - a parental love story for a precious daughter or son only to have that son or daughter murdered and never given the chance to live the dream.
"when as yet there was not one of them" - This is another evidence of the sanctity of life. God knows each day before we are even conceived. Why rip away His creation from Him? he created the life - who are we to destroy it? God knows all our days before we even exist here on earth.
This is one of many cases against abortion in the Bible as well as Biblical proof for life at conception.
Well, in the wild, a mother animal will either abandon or eat her offpsring that cause her an inconvenience when it comes to caring for her other offspring. In a way it's almost like a post-natal abortion, if there were such a thing.unitedstand said:you know, animals nowadays are more humane than humans are.
A baby at any stage is a "child of God". He allowed the conception to happen.ocean said:I believe abortion is OK because a fetus is not a living human. It has no brain, it can not think, it can not feel emotions like love, hate, compassion, anger, fear, etc. It is not even aware of it's own existence! It is life, but it is not alive. The life and well-being of the woman is far more important than the life of the embryo. Scientifically, a fetus is a cancerous growth. Removing an embryo is no more immoral than removing a cancer tumor. Ruining somone's life with an unwanted baby IS immoral. Cancelling a pregnancy is not.
LilChrist said:Also, if anyone uses the arguement that abortion is okay if it is because of rape:95% of abortions are done as a means of birth control
1% because of rape or incest
1% because of fetal abnormalties
3% due to the mothers health problems
Oh, and something I forgot to mention before in regard to the woman's health being more important then a fetus': Women face injuries to the uterus, cervix, urinary tract, infection, hemorrhage, heart
failure, embolism, sterilizations, ruptured intestines & bowels, coma, and even death. In
addition, there are countless cases of abortionists sexually abusing their clients while under the influence of anesthesia. In fact, youre four times more likely to die in the year
following your abortion. Further, women who have abortions suffer mental health
declines, while those who deliver their child actually have improved mental health.
Just something to think about...
Nathan J. L.
The only sure-fire birth control is abstinance...no other form can be garunteed to work. "Those who delay sex until marriage will experience freedom from unplanned pregnancies, STDs, premature marriage, side effects of condoms/contraceptives, guilt, doubt, disappointment, worry, and intensified feelings of rejection."If you're gonna make the decision to have sex, then think ahead and rely on some form of birth control or contraception so you shouldn't ever have to put yourself in that sort of situation, IMO.
Absolutely.LilChrist said:If you choose to have sex, you should be prepared for the consequences.
To each their own. There is no definitive evidence how often a fertilized egg is "aborted" by hormonal birth control as opposed to it being done by the woman's body or other medications she's taking.You should not try to escape them, killing what might have been. Abortion--killing what is. Birth Control(condoms, etc.)--killing what might have been.
I didn't even have much sex ed in school from what I remember...I thought the national deal with our Repub. Pres. was teaching abstinenceAlso, when teens are having sex ed in school, they rarely are taught abstinence.
Safe sex education is educating them on the dangers of sex. If it isn't, then I'm mistaken and it should be.But let's say they taught abstinence, and all the "safe sex" stuff. Chances are, if you really educated them in abstinence and all the dangers of sex, they'll want to wait until marriage, where they won't have to deal with worries or dangers. They'll step into what God called them into peacefully and with God's consent.
They should be informed that nothing is guaranteed, except abstinence, I agree.LilChrist said:Safe sex teaches them how they might avoid the dangers of sex. There is never a garuntee. It doesn't teach all the dangers. There are still dangers that can't be avoided by all the "safe" techniques. For instance, the emotional trauma that failure of birth control causes...
Nah I have quite an aversion to politics, but go aheadAlso, I recently read a book which you may or may not have heard of, depending on whether you are into polotics or talk-show radio.
I don't care if it is or not, I want to know anywayBefore you say it's off the subject,
Yikes, ok, yeah that's not what I was expecting sex ed to be. I don't see the point in training how to have it--it's a rather natural act and humans have procreated all these centuries without teachers to teach them. The measly sex ed class we had in school was more an anatomy thing with the obligatory giggles and childish asides. High school was a bit better with some public speakers.I'll tell you what happened in the book, The Way Things Oughtta Be. He wrote some spoofs of condom ads...which, if it wouldn't sicken the audience, would be what ads would really be like. In one instance a teacher was encouraging the kid to use the condom, compared to ten years ago, the student may have been expelled. I'm still in school and know this to be true. In one school kids were trained in how to have sex. Many kids threw up.
God help usThis is schools today. Sex ed today.
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