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I have to disagree with your thinking here. The legality is not dependent on what word is used. It's based on the rights of the individules involved. Up to a certain point, the rights of the mother trump the rights of <insert your favorite word which does not change the argument at all.>Prove that what is killed in an abortion is a "person" and we'll all agree it's murder. Until that time, however, your premise is flawed.
Me it absolutely changes the argument. Sorry.I have to disagree with your thinking here. The legality is not dependent on what word is used. It's based on the rights of the individules involved. Up to a certain point, the rights of the mother trump the rights of <insert your favorite word which does not change the argument at all.>
The Bible is not the law.Their own bodies? This is a Christian forum, and the Bible teaches that we do not own our bodies. Our body belong to the one who created it. He owns the copyright to thee human body.
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"Don't you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself" [1 Corinthians 6:19]
This is not your house, it's not a church. You have as much right do what you want with the Bible as much as I have the right to offer a few suggestions. The key though, is to know where the line is.Wow! Do you mean I cannot use the Bible? Do you realize that you are on sacred ground? This is a “Christian forum! Do you realize that? You are inside a Christian church!
Do you intend to chase me out of a Christian organization? If I set my foot inside your house, I will show proper respect for your authority. I will not dare to rearrange the furniture inside your house!
It's not murder if it is legal. It is legal. Therefore it's not murder. It's really that simple.Tooth extraction is a painful experience. If a dentist extracts a healthy tooth he should loose his license. When a physicians kills a healthy unborn baby, he should go to jail instead of being rewarded with the freedom to profit from murder.
And how is requiring a rape victim to carry the fetus to term not involuntary servitude and therefore a violation of the 13th Amendment?
What is the alternative? The alternative is murder. Do you believe that killing an innocent baby is a lesser crime than rape? Adding a worse crime to rape is not the right remedy.
Jesus said that if someone is forced to carry a load for a mile, he should offer to carry said load for two miles. Six months of inconvenience is not comparable to the total deprivation of life. Pregnancy is a temporary condition; abortion is final and irreversible.
It's down right horible and if a child is the result of it I don't know what a woman is to do when she has to deal with recovering from trauma because of rape and then know she is also pregnant with the child of the man who did that to her
Yet those guys walk away scott free sometimes. They forcefully inpregnanted a woman against her will with no consent at all.
The mother may also never want to see or hear of that child again though it's a possibility.Rape is a horrible crime. Abortion is a worse crime than rape. There is no known way to un-rape a victim of such an evil act. The woman has a choice between giving the baby for adoption or killing it. Giving the baby to an infertile couple will heal the victim of rape. Forcing her to kill her own baby will load her with guilt for the rest of her life.
Will the rapists also be asked why they raped someone?If society lets a rapist live, where is the justice in executing one of the victim of rape? There is a Day of Judgment coming, and what will the woman say to the Judge when he asks her: Why did you kill an innocent baby?
What is the alternative? The alternative is murder.
Do you believe that killing an innocent baby is a lesser crime than rape? Adding a worse crime to rape is not the right remedy.
Jesus said that if someone is forced to carry a load for a mile, he should offer to carry said load for two miles Six months of inconvenience is not comparable to the total deprivation of life. Pregnancy is a temporary condition; abortion is final and irreversible.
How many times have you been raped?Rape is a horrible crime. Abortion is a worse crime than rape. There is no known way to un-rape a victim of such an evil act. The woman has a choice between giving the baby for adoption or killing it. Giving the baby to an infertile couple will heal the victim of rape. Forcing her to kill her own baby will load her with guilt for the rest of her life.
Thank you so much for posting this!Abortion is not murder and there is not one word in the Bible about abortion. You cannot murder a fetus, as it is not alive anymore than one of my sperm cells or an egg in a woman's uterus. In Exodus 21:22 it states that if a man causes a woman to have a miscarriage, he shall be fined; however, if the woman dies then he will be put to death. It should be apparent from this that the aborted fetus is not considered a living human being since the resulting punishment for the abortion is nothing more than a fine; it is not classified by the bible as a capital offense or MURDER. Murder in the Old Testament was clearly to be punished with death.
Abortion was just as common in the Old Testament days and the days of Jesus and the Apostles, yet, not one word written against abortion anywhere in God's Holy Word. Abortion has been around thousands of years and is nothing knew. The Jews who follow Old Testament law know this and this is why Israel has more liberal laws on abortion than even the United States. Abortion is legal in 80% of the world and is not considered murder.
I am not pro-abortion here; however, I am sick and tired of the religious right pushing lies and twisting scripture to say that life begins at the moment of conception and that an egg with a sperm cell in it is a living person. This is absolutely ridiculous and a lie! Abortion has been legal through most of the Christian churches history in the first trimester. Roe vs Wade only made abortion legal in the first trimester. I feel we should return to the original law as it was first passed in 1974. Abortion should be legal in the first trimester and those rare medical cases where it is needed. Also for cases of rape. Augustine made abortion legal in the first trimester for all of European Christendom in 380 AD; after less than 100 years of it being illegal in the Roman empire. This law lasted until 1598 until they got another control freak pope in charge. That is over 1200 years.
So as you can see the abortion issue has been around long before Christ came to this earth to save us. It is not something new and America is not turning evil. Thoughts?
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