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The difference is that the video that's been floating around is a fabrication to make people believe that PP is in a horrible practice. If that is the video that you are talking about, you've been duped.
So, if abortion is such a wonderful practice, why are abortion facilities becoming ever-harder to find? What are doctors who are willing to do them so hard to find. I see people lining up on day one of Med School. Brain surgeons in one line, Cancer researchers over here, abortionists over here...which line is filling up the fastest?
 
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Gen. 2:7 tells us that Adam did not become a "living soul" until he took he first breath. Certainly, the fetus contains all the Potential for life, but it is not breathing on its own yet in the womb...

Adam is the Prototypical pattern for all human life
, and the human bodies of our entire race are based on him and contain the same raw materials [dust to dust]. It is also thru his blood that sin was communicated to all mankind, [Acts 17:25] and as Romans 5:14 tells us below; The second Adam [Jesus Christ] is of the same figure or "type"-[tupos] as the first Adam, so any attempt to separate us from Adam is unwise unless you want to question the perfection of the body of Christ in the same breath.

Rom. 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure [tupos] of him that was to come. [Christ]

The Big difference between the First and Second Adams is their blood, Adam's was sinful-Christ's was perfect. The realization of how it is perfect however provides great insight into our redemption. Since Christ was the product of the perfect sperm God created in Mary, his Blood was not stained with Adam's sin, which is a main reason why Christ can qualify as the perfect sacrifice for the sin of Mankind. No other human was ever conceived in this manner, which puts Christ in a class by himself, matching Adam's stature prior to his fall in Eden. We find more of this in Hebrews 2;

14 For as much then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he [Jesus] also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17 Wherefore in all things it behooved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Hebrews tells us all other members of humanity are partakers of flesh and blood, but Jesus only took part of the same! He was a man of the flesh, "made like unto his brethren" but not of Adam's Blood! Evidence from the medical profession supports this because it shows that the blood comes from the male side which was carried in the perfect sperm God created in Mary. If this was not the case then Jesus died for nothing and all mankind remains un-redeemed! But we serve a Perfect Heavenly Father and we can see the perfect wisdom in His plan of redemption for Mankind, embodied in His only begotten Son Jesus Christ!

Since Adam did not become a "living soul" until he took he first breath, and he is the pattern for the physical life of all humanity, then it sets the standard for when life as a "living soul" begins. When God was forming Adam out of the ground he displayed all the "potential for life' that any fetus does, but he was not yet an autonomous life form because he was not breathing under his own power. So it is with the fetus who parasitically breathes off the host mother in the womb, until the newborn takes its first breath at birth.

Why else does the same verse [Gen. 2:7] I'm referencing contain the words "breath of Life"? Because God as the Source of all LIFE, is the One Who breathed it into Adam, which is also acknowledged in [Job 33:4].
This is a perfect link to [Levi 17:11] where the life of the flesh is in the Blood, because the blood carries the oxygen of the breath of life to all the cells of the human body. Anyone familiar with grade school biology knows this, and its just another piece of the puzzle that fits into God's ultimate plan of Redemption. This is not "my version" of the case but a clear depiction of the Scriptural record, with a view of the bigger medical picture included. Don't mess with God's Plan...
One difference...Adam was not born from a womb.
 
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It is pretty obvious for anyone that has studied the story. Why do you think that people should give it any credence at all?

You do know that the author of Luke totally blew his census claims don't you?
Actually, you don't know that, for a fact. What we do know is that the four gospels all support each other, even though they were written in different places at different times. How do we know this? Because we have the writings of those who were taught by the apostles and disciples of Jesus. How do we know this? Because many thousands of people died horrid deaths because of the truths in the Gospels. How do we know this? Because there is no man-made institution on earth older than Christianity. The Gospels tell the whole story, including things that show how dense and stupid the apostles were, until they received the Holy Spirit. The Gospels are a human story as much as they are the History of Christiainity.
 
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So, if abortion is such a wonderful practice,
What makes you think abortion is a wonderful practice?

why are abortion facilities becoming ever-harder to find? What are doctors who are willing to do them so hard to find.
Because people shot them.

I see people lining up on day one of Med School. Brain surgeons in one line, Cancer researchers over here, abortionists over here...which line is filling up the fastest?
 
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Yeah, you did.
Oh, because I left out the part about people interpreting them. My bad. Statistics lie because people lie about statistics. There! Fixed it!
 
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As for Abstinence Only, why wouldn't you want to teach the truth, right up front? Condoms fail, pills fail, IUD's fail, all contraception has a failure rate.

Good comprehensive sex ed classes cover that issue making it clear that short of surgical sterilization there is a chance of pregnancy. They also cover failure rates of contraception. Unlike absence only curriculum they correlate with lower rates pregnancy and STIs.

Abstinance's only weakness is that of you, personally.

Absence only curriculums weaknesses is that they are not effective at getting kids to abstain from sex nor are they effective at preventing the unwanted pregnancies which are most often aborted.

So, if abortion is such a wonderful practice, why are abortion facilities becoming ever-harder to find?

Because abortion opponents are using the force of law to close them.
 
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I certainly wasn't shaming sexually active women with derogatory language.
I'd say the sexually active women shamed themselves, causing the derogatory commentary...
 
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Good comprehensive sex ed classes cover that issue making it clear that short of surgical sterilization there is a chance of pregnancy. They also cover failure rates of contraception. Unlike absence only curriculum they correlate with lower rates pregnancy and STIs.
There's no such thing as "abstinence only" curriculum in public schools. And honestly, where abstinence is practiced, it is 100% effective in preventing pregnancy and STD.
Absence only curriculums weaknesses is that they are not effective at getting kids to abstain from sex nor are they effective at preventing the unwanted pregnancies which are most often aborted.
Abstinence (your really need to know the word) centric curriculum's weaknesses are the people themselves. Schools think they can save everyone from themselves, but if you teach them THAT sex is to be reserved for marriage, and WHY it is to be reserved for marriage, you get a better success rate. Cutting God out of schools' overall curriculum is a major part of the problem.
 
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Abstinence (your really need to know the word) centric curriculum's weaknesses are the people themselves.

Just like marxism is a perfectly operating ideology, so long as humans are not trying to put it into practice.

Cutting God out of schools' overall curriculum is a major part of the problem.

I see you take issue with the first amendment along with Roe Vs. Wade.
 
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I'd say the sexually active women shamed themselves, causing the derogatory commentary...
Because as we all know, that's how Jesus acted and how he taught other men to think.

Some parents remember to teach their children that while one's future boss won't care (and actually, isn't allowed to care) about who sleeps over on the weekends, he or she might have something to say to you if you're calling an intern a harlot in the break room.
 
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There's no such thing as "abstinence only" curriculum in public schools. And honestly, where abstinence is practiced, it is 100% effective in preventing pregnancy and STD.
Only when it's practiced among all people with whom the person comes into contact, which is nowhere. Otherwise, there's always the chance of sexual assault, and people have the right to learn about their options ahead of time regarding birth control and STD testing/treatment.
 
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I love how the the non-believers always focus on the less than 2% sexual assault, incest, etc group but just ignore the 98% well I was too lazy to use it, it feels better without it, not "smart" enough or just really don't care group.
 
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Just like marxism is a perfectly operating ideology, so long as humans are not trying to put it into practice.
There is no doubt that there's no perfect system, except for God's. But isn't it telling that you want to remedy people's imperfection with more imperfection? What is so wrong with expecting people to deal with their own consequences without doing harm to someone else in the process? I know that, in the Catholic Church, there are many apostolates that help those who are in bad situations while, at the same time taking those affected by those circumstances into account. Regardless of what people want to believe, you cannot have it both ways.
I see you take issue with the first amendment along with Roe Vs. Wade.
Not at all. But I guess you don't have a problem with schools teaching about Islam. And I guess you know, too, that Jane Doe has repented of her part of Roe v. Wade (note there's no 's'...)
 
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Because as we all know, that's how Jesus acted and how he taught other men to think.
Well, nobody's condemning anyone, are they? Even the woman caught in adultery was...caught in adultery-she shamed herself. Remember the part about Jesus telling her not to sin anymore?
Some parents remember to teach their children that while one's future boss won't care (and actually, isn't allowed to care) about who sleeps over on the weekends, he or she might have something to say to you if you're calling an intern a harlot in the break room.
And SOME parents remember to teach their children that the best way to not have unwanted children is to not have sex. And the boss might not care, but the BOSS will definitely hold you to account.
 
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