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Abortion Bans are Really Working Great

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Really? You don’t know the difference between plants and animals? I thought that was basic.
I know the difference between plants and animals. I also know the difference between a seed and a tree.
 
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Yes, yes it is. A child is, by definition, born. You are using an inherently oxymoronic term. Perhaps that is why the pro-life side is having to pack the courts with ideologues?
So you don’t think there’s such a thing as an unborn child?
 
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Nobody want to control women. We want to not see innocent children killed because of actions outside their control.
Then States need to educate pre-teens, teens and young adults on Birth control, And where to get them and make them free. For those That can't afford them. Birth control should be standards education. Either way, abortions and abortion pills are so accessible to get. The states, that are trying make abortions illegal. Is just giving revenue to other states and countries.
 
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So you don’t think there’s such a thing as an unborn child?
No. A child is a young post-natal human. Insisting that a zygote, a blastocyst, an embryo or a fetus is a "child" is merely inflammatory rhetoric which doesn't help advance the pro-life cause.
 
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Then States need to educate pre-teens, teens and young adults on Birth control, And where to get them and make them free. For those That can't afford them. Birth control should be standards education. Either way, abortions and abortion pills are so accessible to get. The states, that are trying make abortions illegal. Is just giving revenue to other states and countries.
Or teach then to not have sex unless they know they run the risk of pregnancy, and if they get pregnant, they cannot kill the child.
 
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No. A child is a young post-natal human. Insisting that a zygote, a blastocyst, an embryo or a fetus is a "child" is merely inflammatory rhetoric which doesn't help advance the pro-life cause.
If it’s not a life, then there is no pro-life movement. You can try to make them less then human to assuage your conscience. But that’s all you are doing.
 
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Or teach then to not have sex unless they know they run the risk of pregnancy, and if they get pregnant, they cannot kill the child.
I thought you claimed that pro-life wasn't the least about controlling the sex lives of women?
 
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If it’s not a life, then there is no pro-life movement. You can try to make them less then human to assuage your conscience. But that’s all you are doing.
Who said it was not a life? The Catholics have no trouble making a case that aborting a human fetus is wrong. Why can't you?
 
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Or teach then to not have sex unless they know they run the risk of pregnancy, and if they get pregnant, they cannot kill the child.
And if they get raped? Oh wait a minute you will hold the child down and force them to have the pedophiles child against their will.
 
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Who said it was not a life? The Catholics have no trouble making a case that aborting a human fetus is wrong. Why can't you?
Why would it be wrong to them?
 
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If it’s not a life, then there is no pro-life movement. You can try to make them less then human to assuage your conscience. But that’s all you are doing.
Of course there is no pro-life movement. There is just a gang of people who want to demonstrate they have the power and authority to force women to bend to their will.

Those same 'pro-life' people happily join the military for the purpose of killing -real- human beings, they support capital punishment, they let people around the world starve to death, and they even support the capitalist philosophy that a corporation can kill its customers for profit.

America's 'pro-life' movement is nothing more that an attempt to subjugate others. It is ego. America's 'pro-life' movement doesn't give a rat's behind about these fetuses. Their own people get abortions when it suits them. It is ALL about control.
 
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And if they get raped? Oh wait a minute you will hold the child down and force them to have the pedophiles child against their will.
Back to this again. But it will give me a chance to prove a point I made earlier.

I’ll concede that the only abortions allowed are because of rape, incest, and if the mother will die, if you concede that those are the only ones allowed. Agree?

Of course not.
 
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Of course there is no pro-life movement. There is just a gang of people who want to demonstrate they have the power and authority to force women to bend to their will.

Those same 'pro-life' people happily join the military for the purpose of killing -real- human beings, they support capital punishment, they let people around the world starve to death, and they even support the capitalist philosophy that a corporation can kill its customers for profit.

America's 'pro-life' movement is nothing more that an attempt to subjugate others. It is ego. America's 'pro-life' movement doesn't give a rat's behind about these fetuses. Their own people get abortions when it suits them. It is ALL about control.
Darn. You figure us out.
 
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