Greetings Raphe, I will list your questions to me and answer them, using the Bible verses concerned
Your question was, quote.
“I ask respectfully, please tell me where you get your formula for days = years, and time, times, and half = 3 1/2 instead of 2 1/2.”
I have already stated where the 3 ½ years comes from, but I don’t mind going through it again and even adding to the answer for you.
It is not a “formula” it is “what sayeth the Bible.”
After Daniel saw the vision the question was asked HOW LONG?
Daniel 12:6. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, HOW LONG SHALL IT BE TO THE END OF ALL THESE WONDERS?
The following answer is made abundantly clear. 3 ½ years to finish the vision, to when Satan “SCATTERS THE HOLY PEOPLE.”
Daniel 12:7. And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that IT SHALL BE FOR TIME TIMES, AND AN HALF, and when he shall have accomplished to SCATTER the power of THE HOLY PEOPLE, ALL THESE THINGS SHALL BE FINISHED.
The term “IT SHALL BE FOR TIME TIMES, AND AN HALF.”
TIME = ONE.
TIMES = TWO.
AN HALF = ½
Total 3 ½ YEARS.
The same period and event in Revelation is repeated, SATAN “SCATTERS THE HOLY PEOPLE.” For 3 ½ years.
Revelation 12:14. And to the WOMAN were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a TIME, AND TIMES, AND A HALF A TIME, from the face of the SERPENT.
The term “IT SHALL BE FOR TIME TIMES, AND AN HALF.”
TIME = ONE.
TIMES = TWO.
HALF = ½
Total 3 ½ YEARS.
His people being scattered in, Rev 12: 1 to 5 those in Judea are told to run when seeing the abomination sitting where it ought not.
It is Satan the dragon that goes after the WOMAN and her seed.
The woman is easily recognised as Israel in the preceding verses.
So I must bring your attention to my dilemma, regards the mosque.
Mark 13:14. But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains.
I would suggest, with the greatest of respect, but knowing that the Jews had been scattered by Hadrian from Judea around 130 AD and were not in Judea (renamed Palestine), when the mosque was built, therefore His people could not “run to the mountains.” Fulfilling the prophecy of Daniel needs His people back in Judea.That the last verse, shows me clearly that the mosque is not in the biblical script, as the abomination that causes desolations to the daily.
The word (sacrifice) has been added it’s in italics. The translation reads “the daily.”
From the time that the daily is taken away and to when the abomination making it desolate is set up it must be within the 1290 days.
Dan 12:11. And from the time the daily shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
1290 days is about 3 ½ years.
In the next verse we are told that God’s people receive a blessing by passing through the 1335 days.
1335 days is about 3 ½ years.
Daniel 2: 12. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Rev 11:2. But the COURT which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot FORTY TWO MONTHS.
The outer court is given to the Gentiles for ONLY 42 MONTHS.
That is only 3 ½ years. No longer no less.
The two witnesses stand on their feet after 3 ½ days at the RESURRECTION. They are men, and only MEN are raised at the 7th TRUMPET. Men have feet to stand on.
They are murdered, it is MEN that are killed.
Revelation 11:11. And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they STOOD UPON THEIR FEET; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
The two witnesses are in Jerusalem for 1260 days.
About 3 ½ years.
Revelation 11:3. And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
What time span do all these various times above fit into?
Daniel 8:13. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain which spake, How long the vision the daily, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
The whole lot fits into 2300 days about 6 and a bit years.
As Daniel was told repeatedly, Understand the vision concerns the time of the end,”
The time of the end consists of “2300 evening and morning.”
Revelation 22: 18,19. For I testify unto EVERY MAN that HEARETH THE WORDS of the PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK, If any man shall ADD unto these THINGS, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22: 19. And if any man shall TAKE AWAY from THE WORDS of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Raphe’s quote.
I see that 42 months as a certain number of days, and days = years would be the consistant formula. You can see why these calculations should be consistant in prophecy and should be interpreted by scripture...?
I agree absolutely 42 months is 3 ½ years and scripture should be the interpreter and is.
Raphe’s quote.
I think it is a mistake to think 1 + 1 + 1/2 = 3 1/2, and earlier on in the posts, I explained why, and it has to do with the word "hemera" (Strongs No. G2520) which is used in 2Peter 3:8 for a "day". It is translated "time" four times in KJV and twelve times in the NASB.
If 2Peter would more correctly read, "a 'time' is with the Lord as a thousand years", then a time, plus one more time, and a half time, which more closely follows the idiomatic style of the Hebrew of Daniels time, and would be 2,500 years.
I really do not see how it is, that you pull 2 Peter 3:8. Into the discussion.
It is not the intent of that verse to say a day or "time" equals a thousand years.
A day is like a thousand years to God. That is what it means in context.
To apply that verse to anything else is not the Bible's intent. That verse has nothing to do in context with 3 ½ years of Daniel or Revelation's time of the end period of "2300 evening and morning."
I have used the Interlinear Bible. Hebrew, Greek, English and it is in line with the King James version.
2 Peter 3:8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
2 Peter 3:9. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance
The intent of the above verses is very clear. The Lord is not affected by time regards His being patient. He is not slack as we would think being concerned about His long time return, He waits so that every opportunity is given for repentance of as many as possible.
I agree with the equation you gave “1 + 1 + 1/2 = 3 ½.” Being incorrect.
However one + two + a half = three and a half. which is the Bible's equation.
However I don’t see where you have acquired the “1 + 1 + 1/2 = 3 ½.” Or 2500 years from the Bible.
The term “time” has never ever been termed 1000 years.
The Lord used the phrase “7 times pass over thee” and we all know that, that was to do with Kings Nebuchadnezzar’s madness of 7 years.
Daniel 4 32. And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and SEVEN TIMES PASS OVER THEE, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
The outcome was that seven years later the king gains his sanity.
The term seven DAYS for years was not used.
The Lord is very specific when times are given.
Seven Sabbaths of years = seven years worth of Sabbaths is 7 years X seven equals 49 years. Jubilee = 49 years.
Leviticas 25:8. And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee FORTY AND NINE YEARS.
Daniel is backed up by Revelation the very characters are identical, and Daniel’s visions concern the “TIME OF THE END.” They start and finish within the 2300 “evening and morning.” That Bible says it and means, 2300 DAYS
The fact that John is told to MEASURE THE TEMPLE OF GOD. Is a clear indication that the Temple will be rebuilt.
Is the mosque the “Temple of God?”
Rev 11:1. And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Raphe’s quote.
The point you made about the wall being rebuilt may be something that will happen very soon.
The wall in fact is being built around Jerusalem now.
Raphe’s quote.
I do see the Dome of the Rock as significant in the time line of the end-times, as I do 1967AD when the Six day war took control of the Holy city out of Gentile hands. Your reference to Rev. 11:2 and the 42 months is very significant along with the fact that the Muslims mistakenly built the Dome of the Rock on the court of the Gentiles.
Raphe quote.
Also, I'm interested in why when all the other prophetic verses use day and years figuratively, the 42 months is all of a sudden unique and used literally?
The term days for years was not used, even by Jeremiah the Prophet, he used the term years. Daniel read 70 years and new it to be that.
Jeremiah 20:5. Moreover I will deliver all the strength of this city, and all the labours thereof, and all the precious things thereof, and all the treasures of the kings of Judah will I give into the hand of their enemies, which shall spoil them, and take them, and carry them to Babylon.
Jeremiah 29:10. For thus saith the LORD, That after SEVENTY YEARS be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.
The Seventh Day Adventist church, also tries to justify changing days into years which is not the intent of the Bible and is in direct conflict with Rev 22:18,19.
These are the texts they use to try to justify it.
Numbers 14:34. And Ezekiel 4:6.
The Lord mentions Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun.
They were the only two, out of all those that searched the promised land that reported back with the truth, after they searched it for forty days. The Lord gave them forty years punishment. One year for every day they were lying about it. That is the intent of what the Bible says.
Numbers 14:34. After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.
The next verse appoints one day of punishment for each year the people sinned.
The punishment to be borne by the Prophet.
Forty years of sin merits forty days of punishment for the Prophet. That is the intent of the Bible. It is not the Bible’s intent to swap days for years.
Ezekiel 4:6. And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.
To swap around days for years is just plain wrong and is not the intent of the Bible that is why Prophecy Countdown keeps referring to Revelation 22:18, 19.
Maranatha.
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