Abbott asserts Texas's right to self-defense amid border surge

[stevil]

Yes Trump is out for himself but why is Biden addressing this now after 3 years of telling us the border was secure (ask KJP) ?
Could it be because it’s an election year?

I don't think anyone has ever said the Border is secure.

It's also beside the point to say Trump is out for himself.

The topic of discussion is about securing the border. The Biden administration along with serveral senior Republicans were working on a bipartisan plan to improve border security. Trump doesn't want it improved, not under the Biden administration, and is doing all he can to sabotage anything that might be good for USA.

 

[ralliann]

I don't think anyone has ever said the Border is secure.

It's also beside the point to say Trump is out for himself.

The topic of discussion is about securing the border. The Biden administration along with serveral senior Republicans were working on a bipartisan plan to improve border security. Trump doesn't want it improved, not under the Biden administration, and is doing all he can to sabotage anything that might be good for USA.

He doesn't want to compromise with the democratic solution. I hope they don't. To cause all this suffering to force what you want is no different than Hamas.

 

[BPPLEE]

I don't think anyone has ever said the Border is secure.

It's also beside the point to say Trump is out for himself.

The topic of discussion is about securing the border. The Biden administration along with serveral senior Republicans were working on a bipartisan plan to improve border security. Trump doesn't want it improved, not under the Biden administration, and is doing all he can to sabotage anything that might be good for USA.

Oh it’s been said. KJP said it, Mayorkas testified to congress that it was secure, but now that narrative is changing

 

[ralliann]

I don't think anyone has ever said the Border is secure.

It's also beside the point to say Trump is out for himself.

The topic of discussion is about securing the border. The Biden administration along with serveral senior Republicans were working on a bipartisan plan to improve border security. Trump doesn't want it improved, not under the Biden administration, and is doing all he can to sabotage anything that might be good for USA.

News just now. Border Patrol wont remove the wire, and one state has already sent guards and several other states are sending their guards and more wire.

 

[Larniavc]

If Texas secedes won't thousands die the next time there is a heat wave or cold snap? Isn't that what happens in Texas theses days? You'd have thought it's inability to function as an independent state would limit it's autonomy without oversight from wiser and cooler heads.

 

[ralliann]

If Texas secedes won't thousands die the next time there is a heat wave or cold snap? Isn't that what happens in Texas theses days? You'd have thought it's inability to function as an independent state would limit it's autonomy without oversight from wiser and cooler heads.

It is not just Texas. It is half the country now.

 

[stevil]

Oh it’s been said. KJP said it, Mayorkas testified to congress that it was secure, but now that narrative is changing

I guess it depends on your definition of secure.
I doubt anyone has said that it's so secure that no-one can ever sneak into USA.

 

[ralliann]

Yes. That’s almost 2 million a year

We have to deal with the extreme overload here now and what to do. It's rediculous to dicuss more anyway at this point.

 

[BPPLEE]

I guess it depends on your definition of secure.
I doubt anyone has said that it's so secure that no-one can ever sneak into USA.

Keep moving those goalposts

 

[BPPLEE]

We have to deal with the extreme overload here now and what to do. It's rediculous to dicuss more anyway at this point.

Don’t worry. Pres Biden has done more than anyone to secure the border..according to KJP

Biden’s big lie about the border exposed

Nearly 90% of illegal immmigrants were let into the United States. Those odds mean mass illegal immigration will continue so long as the root cause remains. And the root cause is napping in the Ova…

nypost.com

 

[ralliann]

Don’t worry. Pres Biden has done more than anyone to secure the border..according to KJP

Biden’s big lie about the border exposed

Nearly 90% of illegal immmigrants were let into the United States. Those odds mean mass illegal immigration will continue so long as the root cause remains. And the root cause is napping in the Ova…

nypost.com

Have you noticed tactics pulled in the middle east are used by dems? This is the most like Hamas I have seen.

 

[BPPLEE]

We have to deal with the extreme overload here now and what to do. It's rediculous to dicuss more anyway at this point.

1,825,000 a year to be exact

 

[ralliann]

1,825,000 a year to be exact

Yes, we have enough to make up for years. That and how we are going to approach getting these people out and deported. Fixing the border can't even begin until this is taken care of. So it should be on hold anyway.

 

[BPPLEE]

If Texas secedes won't thousands die the next time there is a heat wave or cold snap? Isn't that what happens in Texas theses days? You'd have thought it's inability to function as an independent state would limit it's autonomy without oversight from wiser and cooler heads.

Yeah, that’s what happens when you try to depend on wind and solar power for energy. But are they talking about secession?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

In California, the illegal immigrants are using boats to land on the coast line.

Just goes to show that simply putting up barriers to entry isn't going to stop people. Rather than posturing at the border, Republicans should be working to draft comprehensive immigration reform legislation that addresses both the why and the how of the situation.

 

[BPPLEE]

The order was vacated and the sensationalized boiling down of it is that it’s about the razor wire, but the details of it is that the razor wire blocks access of federal agents to the border inhibits their job. The vacated order means the razor wire must be removed because it prevents access.

U.S. Supreme Court says Texas can’t block federal agents from the border

The high court’s order effectively maintains long-running precedent that the federal government — not individual states — has authority to enforce border security.

www.texastribune.org

Is that the story you’re claiming details CBP complaints about getting injured in razor wire and multiple accounts of injuries because of razor wire? It just mentions very briefly that CBP have assisted people caught in the wire and repeats the false claim that Texas officials prevented CBP from saving migrants who drowned.
This is hardly the numerous reports you say that have left me beyond help because I haven’t seen them.

 

[Vambram]

Just goes to show that simply putting up barriers to entry isn't going to stop people. Rather than posturing at the border, Republicans should be working to draft comprehensive immigration reform legislation that addresses both the why and the how of the situation.

The "remain in Mexico policy" was effective in drastically reducing the amount of massive illegal immigration.

 

[Vambram]

Chilling Letter Warns of 10/7-Style Attack by Illegal Immigrants Inside the United States

townhall.com

I pray that this warning doesn't come true. However, who amongst us would be shocked if this warning truly comes to past.

 

[stevil]

The "remain in Mexico policy" was effective in drastically reducing the amount of massive illegal immigration.

Migrant deaths in Mexico put spotlight on US policy that shifted immigration enforcement south

‘Extensive use’ of detention led to tragic fire, according to the UN special rapporteur for migrant rights. US-Mexico policy has fueled the growth.

theconversation.com

Today Mexico maintains a very large detention system. It comprises several dozen short- and long-term detention centers, housing more than 300,000 people in 2021.

By comparison, the U.S. immigration detention system is the world’s largest. It maintains 131 facilities comprised of government-owned Service Processing Centers, privately run Contract Detention Facilities, and a variety of other detention facilities, including prisons.


But in reality, what migrants often face at these detention centers is poor sanitary conditions, overcrowding, lengthy stays and despair over the near certainty of deportation.

Prevention through deterrence is not working​

Mexico’s detentions and deportations have done little to stop the flow of migrants entering the country en route to the U.S.

Researchers at the University of Texas at Austin estimate that from 2018 to 2021, an annual average of 377,000 migrants entered Mexico from the Northern Triangle region. The vast majority were headed to the U.S. to escape violence, drought, natural disasters, corruption and extreme poverty.



Meanwhile, recent years have seen a toughening of border enforcement policies targeting asylum seekers at the U.S.-Mexico border. This started under the Trump administration but has been continued by President Joe Biden despite the Democrat’s campaign promises of a more “humane” immigration system.


This has created a bottleneck of hundreds of thousands of migrants at Mexico’s border towns and swelled the numbers entering detention facilities in Mexico.

By 2021, the number of immigration detainees in such centers had reached 307,679, nearly double what it had been in 2019.



Only a few can apply for refugee status in the U.S. from abroad, and the waits are long. Biden’s “humanitarian parole” program – which allows entry to the U.S. for up to 30,000 people a month – is only an option for those living in a handful of nations. It is also being challenged in court. And for the lucky few who manage to file for U.S. asylum, denial rates remain high – 63% in 2021 – while immigration court backlogs mean that fewer cases are being decided. Only 8,349 asylum seekers were actually granted asylum by U.S. immigration judges in 2021.

Meanwhile, the Biden administration’s incoming “transit ban” will mean anyone seeking asylum at the U.S. southern border from May 11, 2023 without having first applied for asylum en route, will be rapidly deported, many to Mexico.

The likelihood is the policy will only worsen the migrant processing bottleneck in Mexico, and add pressure on the country’s already volatile detention facility system.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The "remain in Mexico policy" was effective in drastically reducing the amount of massive illegal immigration.

Except it wasn't. It created an artificial surge, and sparked fears of future restrictions that drove immigration to increase after Biden took office.

The Migrant Protection Protocols were announced in December of 2018 and enacted in July of 2019. If you look at Border Patrol encounter data, encounters surged from February to June of 2019 (peaking at 132k in May), and remained higher than average until October - after the program was in place - when they dropped down to more or less the same level (~30-40k encounters/month) that they'd been for the past ten years, where they stayed all through COVID. Numbers started to spike again after Biden took office - likely because of a perception that his administration would be more friendly to migrants.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Aug/U.S.%20Border%20Patrol%20Monthly%20Encounters%20%28FY%202000%20-%20FY%202020%29%20%28508%29.pdf