A Third Temple In Jerusalem, Breaking News?

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Mar 15:16 Then the soldiers led Him away into the hall called Praetorium, and they called together the whole garrison.


Act_23:35 he said, "I will hear you when your accusers also have come." And he commanded him to be kept in Herod's Praetorium.

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Antonia Fortress was built by John Hyrcanus. See Antiquities 18.4.3

they [the priestly garments] were laid up in the tower of Antonia, the citadel so called, and that on the occasion following: There was one of the [high] priests, named Hyrcanus [164 to 104 BC]; and as there were many of that name, he was the first of them; this man built a tower near the temple, and when he had so done, he generally dwelt in it, and had these vestments with him, because it was lawful for him alone to put them on, and he had them there reposited when he went down into the city, and took his ordinary garments; the same things were continued to be done by his sons, and by their sons after them. But when Herod came to be king, he rebuilt this tower, which was very conveniently situated, in a magnificent manner; and because he was a friend to Antonius, he called it by the name of Antonia.​
 
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You claim that the Temple Mount was really Fortress Antonia. It is 35 acres; that is room enough for about 3500 soldiers. What legion were these soldiers from?

No evidence has EVER been discovered that the Temple Mount was a Roman fortress, thought there was a smaller one on the NW corner of the Temple Mount.

If there were any evidence that the Roman built a fort on the Temple Mount, don't you think the Palestinians would be shouting it from the housetops?
 
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Antonia Fortress was built by John Hyrcanus. See Antiquities 18.4.3

they [the priestly garments] were laid up in the tower of Antonia, the citadel so called, and that on the occasion following: There was one of the [high] priests, named Hyrcanus [164 to 104 BC]; and as there were many of that name, he was the first of them; this man built a tower near the temple, and when he had so done, he generally dwelt in it, and had these vestments with him, because it was lawful for him alone to put them on, and he had them there reposited when he went down into the city, and took his ordinary garments; the same things were continued to be done by his sons, and by their sons after them. But when Herod came to be king, he rebuilt this tower, which was very conveniently situated, in a magnificent manner; and because he was a friend to Antonius, he called it by the name of Antonia.​

"the citadel so called"...

A "citadel" is often a high place.

"Herod rebuilt this tower"...

Do you know why the "Dome of the Rock" is called the Dome of the Rock?

What was the highest natural point in the area, according to Josephus?

The Fortress of Antonia was built on the Rock under the Dome.


From "Wars of the Jews" by Flavius Josephus, Book 5, Chapter 5, Section 8:


"8. Now as to the tower of Antonia, it was situated at the corner of two cloisters of the court of the temple; of that on the west, and that on the north; it was erected upon a rock of fifty cubits in height, and was on a great precipice; it was the work of king Herod, wherein he demonstrated his natural magnanimity. In the first place, the rock itself was covered over with smooth pieces of stone, from its foundation, both for ornament, and that any one who would either try to get up or to go down it might not be able to hold his feet upon it. Next to this, and before you come to the edifice of the tower itself, there was a wall three cubits high; but within that wall all the space of the tower of Antonia itself was built upon, to the height of forty cubits. The inward parts had the largeness and form of a palace, it being parted into all kinds of rooms and other conveniences, such as courts, and places for bathing, and broad spaces for camps; insomuch that, by having all conveniences that cities wanted, it might seem to be composed of several cities, but by its magnificence it seemed a palace. And as the entire structure resembled that of a tower, it contained also four other distinct towers at its four corners; whereof the others were but fifty cubits high; whereas that which lay upon the southeast corner was seventy cubits high, that from thence the whole temple might be viewed; but on the corner where it joined to the two cloisters of the temple, it had passages down to them both, through which the guard (for there always lay in this tower a Roman legion) went several ways among the cloisters, with their arms, on the Jewish festivals, in order to watch the people, that they might not there attempt to make any innovations; for the temple was a fortress that guarded the city, as was the tower of Antonia a guard to the temple; and in that tower were the guards of those three (14). There was also a peculiar fortress belonging to the upper city, which was Herod’s palace; but for the hill Bezetha, it was divided from the tower Antonia, as we have already told you; and as that hill on which the tower of Antonia stood was the highest of these three, so did it adjoin to the new city, and was the only place that hindered the sight of the temple on the north. And this shall suffice at present to have spoken about the city and the walls about it, because I have proposed to myself to make a more accurate description of it elsewhere."

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How can we build the Third Temple together?
By Zia H Shah on December 6, 2017

Jerusalem: Its Separate Covenant With the Nations of the World

http://emetnews.org/documents/unsc_resolution_476.php

"Later that same year, on August 20, the Security Council passed Resolution 478 [1980]. The vote, again, was 14-0 with one abstention - the United States. This resolution censured "in the strongest terms" the enactment by Israel of the "Basic Law" on Jerusalem. It stated that the enactment of the "Basic Law" constituted a violation of international law..."

That's Zero Abstentions, now.

Keep in mind that the US has covenanted with the Talmudists, re: their Noachide law via a celebratory memorial. When Trump's Temple is finished, they will be able to put teeth into the Noachide law. The Talmudists of today were the Pharisees of yesteryear. And in the Talmud, Jesus is called an idol.
 
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The last version of the 3D model of the Third Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel:


The Third Temple according to Peter, an Apostle of Christ.

1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

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Could This Be Possible, A Third Temple In Jerusalem?

I will be but a pile of dust/ashes by that time. I wish 'em the best of luck with it tho.....


Mark 6:11
And who soever should not be receiving ye, nor should be hearing of-ye, going out thence, shake off! the dust/coun <5522> the underneath thine feet into a testimony to-them.
Amen I say unto ye, it shall be more tolerable to-Sodom or Gomorrha in a day of judgment than that City". [#5522 used in Revelation 18:19]

Luke 21:20
"whenever yet ye may be seeing Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, then be knowing! that nigh the desolating<2050> of Her"

Revelation 18:19
And they cast dust/<5522> upon their heads and cried-out lamenting and mourning saying "Woe! Woe! the great City, in which are-rich all those having ships in the sea out of her preciousness!
that in one hour She was desolated/laid-waste<2049>.

 
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Could This Be Possible, A Third Temple In Jerusalem?


Mat 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.


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Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Actually, it's said about the Christian religion. How many wars were between the "Christian" states? And today something has changed?
 
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The Third Temple according to Peter, an Apostle of Christ.

1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

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You know you would actually come across as someone knowledgeable if you would take the time to carefully read what the bible is saying before posting scriptures.

Peter was in no way talking about the third temple or any physical temple for that matter, he was commenting on Jesus. Jesus is the stone the builders rejected who will reign from Jerusalem when He returns.

1 Peter 2:4-10 New Living Translation (NLT)
4 You are coming to Christ, who is the living cornerstone of God’s temple. He was rejected by people, but he was chosen by God for great honor.

5 And you are living stones that God is building into his spiritual temple. What’s more, you are his holy priests. Through the mediation of Jesus Christ, you offer spiritual sacrifices that please God. 6 As the Scriptures say,

“I am placing a cornerstone in Jerusalem,
chosen for great honor,
and anyone who trusts in
him
will never be disgraced.”

7 Yes, you who trust him recognize the honor God has given him. But for those who reject him,

“The stone that the builders rejected
has now become the cornerstone.”


8 And,

“He is the stone that makes people stumble,
the rock that makes them fall.”


They stumble because they do not obey God’s word, and so they meet the fate that was planned for them.

9 But you are not like that, for you are a chosen people. You are royal priests, a holy nation, God’s very own possession. As a result, you can show others the goodness of God, for he called you out of the darkness into his wonderful light.

10 “Once you had no identity as a people;
now you are God’s people.
Once you received no mercy;
now you have received God’s mercy.”


https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 peter 2:4-10&version=NKJV;NLT
 
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LittleLambofJesus said:
Could This Be Possible, A Third Temple In Jerusalem?
I will be but a pile of dust/ashes by that time. I wish 'em the best of luck with it tho.....
*snip*
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
Actually, it's said about the Christian religion. How many wars were between the "Christian" states? And today something has changed?
Concerning Revelation 11:8, the same greek word, #4430, is also used Matthew 24:

4430. ptoma pto'-mah from the alternate of 4098;
a ruin, i.e. (specially), lifeless body (corpse, carrion):--dead body, carcase, corpse.


Matthew 24:28
"For the where ever may be the corpse/ptwma <4430>,
there shall be being gathered the eagles<105>".

Revelation 11:8
and their dead-bodies/ptwmata/ptwma<4430> are upon the broad-place of the great city (that is called spiritually Sodom, and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified,).


http://www.greeknewtestament.com/index.htm
Byzantine Majority
kai ta ptwmata autwn epi thV plateiaV ths polewV thV megalhV htiV kaleitai pneumatikwV sodoma kai aiguptoV opou kai o kurioV autwn estaurwqh
Hort and Westcott

kai to ptwma autwn epi thV plateiaV thV polewV thV megalhV htiV kaleitai pneumatikwV sodoma kai aiguptoV opou kai o kurioV autwn estaurwqh

However, Luke uses a different greek word for that event [providing it is the same event]...#4983

4983. soma so'-mah from 4982;
the body (as a sound whole), used in a very wide application, literally or figuratively:--bodily, body, slave.

Luke 17:37
And they answered and said unto Him, "Where, Lord"?
And He said unto them, "Wheresoever the body<4983> is,
thither will the eagles<105> be gathered together".

 
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Peter was in no way talking about the third temple or any physical temple for that matter, he was commenting on Jesus. Jesus is the stone the builders rejected who will reign from Jerusalem when He returns.

The temple, which is Jesus Christ, is just as real as any temple made of stones.
That temple is a physical reality which now exists in heaven.

As far as Christ reigning from the Jerusalem on this rotten, sin-cursed world, the woman at the well agrees with you.
You must have missed the part where Jesus corrected her.


Joh 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


Heb 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.


Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.


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BABerean2 said:
The Third Temple according to Peter, an Apostle of Christ.

1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
You know you would actually come across as someone knowledgeable if you would take the time to carefully read what the bible is saying before posting scriptures.

Peter was in no way talking about the third temple or any physical temple for that matter, he was commenting on Jesus. Jesus is the stone the builders rejected who will reign from Jerusalem when He returns.

1 Peter 2:4-10 New Living Translation (NLT)
4 You are coming to Christ, who is the living cornerstone of God’s temple. He was rejected by people, but he was chosen by God for great honor.

5 And you are living stones that God is building into his spiritual temple. What’s more, you are his holy priests. Through the mediation of Jesus Christ, you offer spiritual sacrifices that please God. 6 As the Scriptures say,

“I am placing a cornerstone in Jerusalem,
chosen for great honor,
and anyone who trusts in him
will never be disgraced.”

7 Yes, you who trust him recognize the honor God has given him. But for those who reject him,

“The stone that the builders rejected
has now become the cornerstone.”


8 And,

“He is the stone that makes people stumble,
the rock that makes them fall.”


They stumble because they do not obey God’s word, and so they meet the fate that was planned for them.

9 But you are not like that, for you are a chosen people. You are royal priests, a holy nation, God’s very own possession. As a result, you can show others the goodness of God, for he called you out of the darkness into his wonderful light.

10 “Once you had no identity as a people;
now you are God’s people.
Once you received no mercy;
now you have received God’s mercy.”


https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 peter 2:4-10&version=NKJV;NLT
Then there is also this:

Daniel 2:
35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no Place was found for Them.
And the Stone that smote the Image became a Great Mountain, and filled the whole Land.


45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the Stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great Elohim hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter:
and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Act 17:24

“God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.
Hebrews 9:11
But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come,[fn] with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation.

https://www.christianforums.com/thr...e-god-to-worship.7931058/page-9#post-70071698

Galatians 4
24 which things is an allegory.
For these are the two Covenants, one indeed from mount Sinai into servitude generating/gennwsa <1080> who-any is Hagar.
25 For the Hagar mount Sinai is in Arabia is together-elemental yet to now Jerusalem slaving/serving tye with the offpsrings of Her.

Hebrew 12:

18 For ye came not near to the mountain touched and scorched with fire, and to blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19 and to the sound of a trumpet, and to a voice of words which those having heard excused themselves, asking the word not to be addressed to them,

2 mountains enter, [OC and NC] 1 mountain leaves[OC Sinai]

Revelation 8:8
And the second Messenger trumpets and as-like a great mountain to fire burning, was cast into the Sea and became the third of the Sea blood
[Matthew 21:21/Galatians 4:24, 25/Hebrew 12:18]

 
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You know you would actually come across as someone knowledgeable if you would take the time to carefully read what the bible is saying before posting scriptures.

Christ is not the only stone in 1 Peter 2:3-10.

1Pe 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

A spiritual house is not imaginary.
The Holy Spirit is just as real as any rock found in your neighborhood.

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Everyone goes on about a 3rd Temple being built! They read scripture incorrectly. Jesus was / is the Temple. He died for us but rose again on the 3rd day.
 
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Everyone goes on about a 3rd Temple being built! They read scripture incorrectly. Jesus was / is the Temple. He died for us but rose again on the 3rd day.

Amen.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The Second Temple ceased being the temple of God when the Jewish leadership put God in chains and dragged Him out of that building.

They forcefully removed the Holy of Holies from that place.

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