Because it’s not the same. Gender is not real, it’s a social construct based on some subjective imaginations, that vary from person to person. I don’t think the concept of gender as is being redefined should be taken seriously by society.
A social construct is simply rules or ideas a society agrees upon and these change constantly. You don't get to decide by yourself what society should be like. Our society is slowly taking it seriously. We as a society have set up ideas as to what it means to be a woman or man in our society. What gender attributes women have and men have. A transgender person is simply saying that even though I am a biological man I identify with the social ideas of femininity as agreed upon by society. The attributes of masculinity and femininity are real.Because it’s not the same. Gender is not real, it’s a social construct based on some subjective imaginations, that vary from person to person. I don’t think the concept of gender as is being redefined should be taken seriously by society.
Go ahead. If society is persuaded then that will be a new norm. Age is conveniently measured by earth years. We could have easily determined age by months or by a mars year if we wanted to. It's just a social construct anyway.What if I wanted to identify as someone 50 years older than I currently am? Do I have a right to expect society to cater to my delusions?
Here is the issue. You consider it a delusion. Do you consider your gender a delusion or do you deny you have a gender? Men can simply identify with the social construct of what a woman is supposed to be so they want to be called a she/her. I don't see the issue and why it harms you in any way.These people can think whatever they want of themselves, but when they start insisting I cater to their delusions, that’s where I draw the line.
So how is this harming you in any way to call a biological female a he?Because if their wishes are based on false information resulting from delusions that exist only in their heads, I choose not to become a part of that.
As I have pointed out above gender is real and a social construct.Biology is real, gender is not; it's only what they think is real.
Just because the monsters inside of my head may be real to me, doesn't mean they are reality.There are some transgender people would disagree that gender is not real. They are not transgender in pursuit of something "not real." They are transgender in pursuit of something that is very real to them, and undeniably so.
The laws for ambassadors apply to all ambassadors. The laws for presidents apply to all presidents.In some cases they do. For example, ambassadors have diplomatic immunity, and the president can't be indicted (unfortunately...).
Really? Can you provide a list of gender roles that only apply to women, and another list of gender roles that only applies to men?A social construct is simply rules or ideas a society agrees upon and these change constantly. You don't get to decide by yourself what society should be like. Our society is slowly taking it seriously. We as a society have set up ideas as to what it means to be a woman or man in our society. What gender attributes women have and men have. A transgender person is simply saying that even though I am a biological man I identify with the social ideas of femininity as agreed upon by society. The attributes of masculinity and femininity are real.
Money is real because everybody agrees on it’s value. Everybody does not agree on this redefined version of genderMoney is a social construction and it is real. The paper is worth very little but what is written on it is valuable and real.
So right and wrong means nothing to you, if you can get enough people to go along no matter how absurd, you’re good with it huh? I don't operate that way.Go ahead. If society is persuaded then that will be a new norm. Age is conveniently measured by earth years. We could have easily determined age by months or by a mars year if we wanted to. It's just a social construct anyway.
I still equate gender with biological Sex.Here is the issue. You consider it a delusion. Do you consider your gender a delusion or do you deny you have a gender?
Please list some of these social constructs of what a woman is supposed to be.Men can simply identify with the social construct of what a woman is supposed to be so they want to be called a she/her. I don't see the issue and why it harms you in any way.
While we are at it, why don’t we pretend 1+1=3 because it makes someone feel better about themselves? Why don’t we pretend that reptile is a mammal because it makes someone feel better about themselves?So how is this harming you in any way to call a biological female a he?
The laws for ambassadors apply to all ambassadors. The laws for presidents apply to all presidents.
I don't know what your point is, my point is that laws of the land are agreed upon by the entire society. This newly defined transgenderism is not.You're just splitting hairs. It's illegal for me to walk into your house uninvited but it's not illegal for you to do so.
I don't know what your point is, my point is that laws of the land are agreed upon by the entire society. This newly defined transgenderism is not.
When a law changes, it's because the members of society responsible for enacting laws have agreed on the change. Even those who disagree with the laws still know what the laws are. Its not like everybody has their own set of laws they are required to follow that vary from person to person.They most certainly are not, or they wouldn't be constantly changing them.
When a law changes, it's because the members of society responsible for enacting laws have agreed on the change. Even those who disagree with the laws still know what the laws are. Its not like everybody has their own set of laws they are required to follow that vary from person to person.
That doesn't change the fact that laws are objective. What is legal can be demonstrated/proven to be legal. The same can't be said for these transgender issues.The point is that laws don't exist independently of human minds.
That doesn't change the fact that laws are objective. What is legal can be demonstrated/proven to be legal. The same can't be said for these transgender issues.
I disagree! Though laws may be based on subjective morality, they are agreed upon by law makers, and like math, measurements, and anything else objective; written down for all to understand. Because of this, that which is legal can be demonstrated/proven to be legal or notLaws are based upon subjective morality. In that sense they are not objective.
I disagree! Though laws may be based on subjective morality, they are agreed upon by law makers, and like math, measurements, and anything else objective; written down for all to understand. Because of this, that which is legal can be demonstrated/proven to be legal or not
Ummm that IS objectivity. That's why math is objective. That's why measurements, time, distance volume, etc. is objective; because mankind has agreed on arbitrary standards.I don't see agreement on arbitrary standards as meaning the same as objective.
Laws are based upon subjective morality. In that sense they are not objective. They are supposed to be universally applied but that is not objectivity, it is consistency. Of course, as with any human endeavor, what is supposed to be is not always what occurs.
Disclaimer: I am not transgender and I am not an expert and my views are changing as I learn more about transgender people. This may not be 100% accurate but it is how I see it as of now.Really? Can you provide a list of gender roles that only apply to women, and another list of gender roles that only applies to men?
Over 60% of Americans say they are more supportive of transgender rights than 5 years ago. Everyone is never going to agree but most people do agree that transgender people should not be discriminated against and that is rising every year.Money is real because everybody agrees on it’s value. Everybody does not agree on this redefined version of gender
Me neither and I never said that morality does not exist. 20 years ago gay marriage was supported by 35% of the population, now it is over 60%. Society changes what we believe about social issues. Gender is one thing that is changing as well.So right and wrong means nothing to you, if you can get enough people to go along no matter how absurd, you’re good with it huh? I don't operate that way.
That is OK but I think you should think about how that belief affects transgender people.I still equate gender with biological Sex.
I did above. And its not about what we expect a woman to be like but what most women are like.Please list some of these social constructs of what a woman is supposed to be.
Because this would lead to catastrophe and people would get hurt. Treating transgender people with respect harm no one. You have never come up with how calling a person a particular pronoun harms you in any way.While we are at it, why don’t we pretend 1+1=3 because it makes someone feel better about themselves?
I don't see the need in this but at least no one would get hurt.Why don’t we pretend that reptile is a mammal because it makes someone feel better about themselves?
Why is it wrong?I’ll tell you why; because it’s wrong!
Correct insofar as “these transgender issues” are in a state of flux.That doesn't change the fact that laws are objective. What is legal can be demonstrated/proven to be legal. The same can't be said for these transgender issues.
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