A question about Job.

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny View Post
After God restores Job, what happens to his wife and his three friends?

The friends were humiliated by God and told off by him and then they changed their lives and became much better people and stopped judging others. His wife had many more children and probably got really tired.

Interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing it.

 

[brinny]

...yet as i listened closer to the part about healing and the woman with the issue of blood for 12 years, Job came to mind. Job's suffering was inexplicable. And it was parallel to the woman's with the issue of blood. This is about the best message on suffering i've ever heard.

It's another "key" to understanding the book of Job, and more specifically, Job himself (and anyone who is suffering inexplicably).

Amen.

Wisdom for the Heart

 

[brinny]

i was just reading Psalms and there, standing out like a "lighthouse" or a "Lit street lamp" on a dark night, was this, another "key" to understanding the book of Job, and more importantly, God's relationship with Job, and why God called Job righteous.

"O worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth." ~Psalm 96:9

 

[brinny]

God's "keys" un-lock treasures that cannot be measured. His "keys" are found all throughout His Word from beginning to end. Each "key" like a puzzle piece, fits together, forming a picture that weaves into a tapestry of God's "testimony" of Who He is and the "testimony" of the Godly men who testified of Him. There is a common "theme" found in each Godly man, found in key words used to describe them.

We are to "dig" for those keys.

 

[brinny]

When i was unable to access CF for 6 days, i found myself delving into the Book of Job again. In my searching for studies on Job, i came across this series of videos teaching on, of all things, Job!!!

As i began to listen, i knew God had just sent me a "gift". This video in particular delves into the "keys" to understanding Job, one of the most diss-understood and maligned men of God and the Book wherein lies his testimony, which is also one of the most miss-understood books of the Bible.

Give it a listen. Listen carefully for the "keys" that "un-lock" the mystery to understanding this man of God, Job and why God described Job as He did in the very beginning of this treasure of a Book.

"The Book of Job - Chapter 2" Bible Study at Faithful Word Baptist Church - YouTube

 

[MJohn7]

When i was unable to access CF for 6 days, i found myself delving into the Book of Job again. In my searching for studies on Job, i came across this series of videos teaching on, of all things, Job!!!

As i began to listen, i knew God had just sent me a "gift". This video in particular delves into the "keys" to understanding Job, one of the most diss-understood and maligned men of God and the Book wherein lies his testimony, which is also one of the most miss-understood books of the Bible.

Give it a listen. Listen carefully for the "keys" that "un-lock" the mystery to understanding this man of God, Job and why God described Job as He did in the very beginning of this treasure of a Book.

"The Book of Job - Chapter 2" Bible Study at Faithful Word Baptist Church - YouTube

Good video. I liked the part where he reminds us not to rail against others. Its good to be reminded of that.

Mt 12:36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

James 1:9 So then,[a] my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; 20 for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God.

Doers—Not Hearers Only

21 Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.
22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
26 If anyone among you[b] thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

 

[brinny]

Interesting points. Thank you.

 

[brinny]

Eliphaz.

Wisdom for the Heart

 

[MJohn7]

Interesting points. Thank you.

Thank you.

 

[MJohn7]

James 5:7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand.
9 Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned.[c] Behold, the Judge is standing at the door! 10 My brethren, take the prophets, who spoke in the name of the Lord, as an example of suffering and patience. 11 Indeed we count them blessed who endure. You have heard of the perseverance of Job and seen the end intended by the Lord—that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful.

 

[brinny]

.......an interesting key here "perseverance of Job". There's a complete sermon and/or series of studies in just those three words. A treasure. Thank you for highlighting it.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

God's "keys" un-lock treasures that cannot be measured. His "keys" are found all throughout His Word from beginning to end. Each "key" like a puzzle piece, fits together, forming a picture that weaves into a tapestry of God's "testimony" of Who He is and the "testimony" of the Godly men who testified of Him. There is a common "theme" found in each Godly man, found in key words used to describe them.


We are to "dig" for those keys.

Jesus's parables are a lot like "keys"

Kindgdom Bible Studies Template Page

Usually, when the story of the rich man and Lazarus is considered, its setting is ignored................

Against this background of biting criticism Jesus stood and gave the teachings found in chapters fifteen and sixteen of Luke. There are five stories which follow consecutively. It is well known, of course, that chapters and verses were not in the original scriptures. We are at liberty to change them when they do not synchronize with other scripture. Any arrangement of chapter and verse division that clarifies or harmonizes other scripture, is more authoritative than that division that beclouds other statements of the Bible. At the beginning of Jesus’ discourse in chapter fifteen of Luke the statement is made that “He spoke this parable unto them, saying,” (Lk. 15:3). The Greek is very definite in making the word for parable clearly a singular noun. It is “the parable this..” This statement is followed by five separate stories, the first of which is the story of the lost sheep, and the last is the story of the rich man and Lazarus. You see, the teaching in chapter sixteen is but the continuation of the discourse in chapter fifteen, without interruption.

Now, which of the five stories He gave them in this sermon was called a parable? The only one of the five which is prefaced by the claim, “And He spoke this parable unto them,” was the story about the lost sheep. Was the lost sheep the only one that could be called a parable? And yet, any preacher or believer that I know will answer that the story of the lost coin, as well as the prodigal son, were also parables. Then why was the singular used - “this parable”? It should be clear to any thinking mind that all these stories were ONE PARABLE, like the facets of a diamond, as they turn each scintillates with new brilliance. Each was illustrating a view point of one great truth, and together they compose a whole.

And this parabolic discourse of Jesus is continued into chapter sixteen of Luke, including the story of the rich man and Lazarus. The truth is that all five stories are each a fractional part of the complete parable, and when we read, “He spoke this parable unto them,” this embraces the entire collection of symbol-pictures which in their completeness constituted the parable which He spoke. It is a careless assumption and an unfounded assertion to argue that the story of the rich man and Lazarus is not a parable!

 

[SG9]

After God restores Job, what happens to his wife and his three friends?

It seems that when Job was restored, he then abandoned his worldly ways, including marriage, perhaps? This is addressing the spiritual side of Job's life, and how he then might have seen God as his Bride-groom, meaning that he no longer found any abundance in the worldly life that he once lived. He became a devoted follower and an upright man after living upside-down for a long while.

I believe that we may see relevance in the prophecy about the days of Noah, and in this last-day, when they were marrying, and giving in marriage. IMO, the world's marriage laws oppose that of God's laws and statutes, and this might explain that Job's family might have also left him, as they might have not liked what he had become.

The world hates the believer, even the men whom have turned back to God and lost their wives and families, and all that they once had in this world. It was also a testing of Job when God sent wrath upon him, just to prove Satan wrong!

The Bible also says that when Christ comes again, He will turn many families against one another, as He did not come to bring peace but to harvest a remnant of believers, and they were separated like the tares from the wheat.

Then, those who are of alike minds are also gathered together, each one to his father, being either the Father in heaven or the father of lies. Thanks

 

[MJohn7]

Eliphaz.

Wisdom for the Heart

.......an interesting key here "perseverance of Job". There's a complete sermon and/or series of studies in just those three words. A treasure. Thank you for highlighting it.

And thank you for your post about Eliphaz, and the thread, it was edifying.

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny View Post
God's "keys" un-lock treasures that cannot be measured. His "keys" are found all throughout His Word from beginning to end. Each "key" like a puzzle piece, fits together, forming a picture that weaves into a tapestry of God's "testimony" of Who He is and the "testimony" of the Godly men who testified of Him. There is a common "theme" found in each Godly man, found in key words used to describe them.


We are to "dig" for those keys.

Jesus's parables are a lot like "keys"

Kindgdom Bible Studies Template Page

Usually, when the story of the rich man and Lazarus is considered, its setting is ignored................

Against this background of biting criticism Jesus stood and gave the teachings found in chapters fifteen and sixteen of Luke. There are five stories which follow consecutively. It is well known, of course, that chapters and verses were not in the original scriptures. We are at liberty to change them when they do not synchronize with other scripture. Any arrangement of chapter and verse division that clarifies or harmonizes other scripture, is more authoritative than that division that beclouds other statements of the Bible. At the beginning of Jesus’ discourse in chapter fifteen of Luke the statement is made that “He spoke this parable unto them, saying,” (Lk. 15:3). The Greek is very definite in making the word for parable clearly a singular noun. It is “the parable this..” This statement is followed by five separate stories, the first of which is the story of the lost sheep, and the last is the story of the rich man and Lazarus. You see, the teaching in chapter sixteen is but the continuation of the discourse in chapter fifteen, without interruption.

Now, which of the five stories He gave them in this sermon was called a parable? The only one of the five which is prefaced by the claim, “And He spoke this parable unto them,” was the story about the lost sheep. Was the lost sheep the only one that could be called a parable? And yet, any preacher or believer that I know will answer that the story of the lost coin, as well as the prodigal son, were also parables. Then why was the singular used - “this parable”? It should be clear to any thinking mind that all these stories were ONE PARABLE, like the facets of a diamond, as they turn each scintillates with new brilliance. Each was illustrating a view point of one great truth, and together they compose a whole.

And this parabolic discourse of Jesus is continued into chapter sixteen of Luke, including the story of the rich man and Lazarus. The truth is that all five stories are each a fractional part of the complete parable, and when we read, “He spoke this parable unto them,” this embraces the entire collection of symbol-pictures which in their completeness constituted the parable which He spoke. It is a careless assumption and an unfounded assertion to argue that the story of the rich man and Lazarus is not a parable!

i s'pose the "key" here is a bottom line of whether we are really "listening" to Jesus' Words and absorbing what He is saying as the true TREASURE each of His Words are, for they never ever change, for He, as like God (Who He IS ), never ever changes.

The point here, is that we can never ever just listen "casually" to the Words of Jesus, but take them in, EACH of them, just as Mary (Martha's sister), who sat at Jesus' feet, listening intently to each of His Words, did.....with all our hearts, minds, souls, and strength.

Thank you for this look at "keys"..for they unlock great mysteries in His Word. In essence, they are "gifts" and they are "missed" if not reading His Word with a "hunger" like His Word is literally "manna", spiritual bread from heaven....

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny View Post
After God restores Job, what happens to his wife and his three friends?

It seems that when Job was restored, he then abandoned his worldly ways, including marriage, perhaps? This is addressing the spiritual side of Job's life, and how he then might have seen God as his Bride-groom, meaning that he no longer found any abundance in the worldly life that he once lived. He became a devoted follower and an upright man after living upside-down for a long while.

I believe that we may see relevance in the prophecy about the days of Noah, and in this last-day, when they were marrying, and giving in marriage. IMO, the world's marriage laws oppose that of God's laws and statutes, and this might explain that Job's family might have also left him, as they might have not liked what he had become.

The world hates the believer, even the men whom have turned back to God and lost their wives and families, and all that they once had in this world. It was also a testing of Job when God sent wrath upon him, just to prove Satan wrong!

The Bible also says that when Christ comes again, He will turn many families against one another, as He did not come to bring peace but to harvest a remnant of believers, and they were separated like the tares from the wheat.

Then, those who are of alike minds are also gathered together, each one to his father, being either the Father in heaven or the father of lies. Thanks

Interesting. Thank you for your response. Can you share how it is that Job, as described in the last part of the book, had sons and daughters?

Thank you kindly.

 

[brinny]

And thank you for your post about Eliphaz, and the thread, it was edifying.

You are most welcome. As i read and study the Book of Job, i am finding more and more blessings contained in it.

Thank you for contributing.

 

[SG9]

Interesting. Thank you for your response. Can you share how it is that Job, as described in the last part of the book, had sons and daughters?

Thank you kindly.

It's then likely that it's differentiating the two, one carnal-natural family and then the spiritual family. Even as I believe it was Christ who said that the believers are then his brothers, sisters, and mothers. There are two families to compare, that of our naturally born flesh, and that of our born again spirit. This may be the case. If there are any specific scripture references in question, please post them so that we are talking of the same line, just in case we are not. If this is your thread then, why did you not address this or mention it in contrast in your first post? Thanks

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny View Post
Interesting. Thank you for your response. Can you share how it is that Job, as described in the last part of the book, had sons and daughters?

Thank you kindly.

It's then likely that it's differentiating the two, one carnal-natural family and then the spiritual family. Even as I believe it was Christ who said that the believers are then his brothers, sisters, and mothers. There are two families to compare, that of our naturally born flesh, and that of our born again spirit. This may be the case. If there are any specific scripture references in question, please post them so that we are talking of the same line, just in case we are not. If this is your thread then, why did you not address this or mention it in contrast in your first post? Thanks

Yes, i began this thread, as i was venturing a study into this book, that i had seriously avoided because it was painful to read. As i post in this thread, i am, for the most part, "thinkin' out loud", so to speak, as i delve into this book.

Now in reference to the end of the book, let's see....in chapter 42:12-16 it says this:

"So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses. He had also seven sons and three daughters. And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch. And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren. After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations."

Looks like literal children to me and then their children and their children after them and so on.

 

[Rhamiel]

have any of you heard the idea that Job was not a descendant of Abraham?
some thing that Job is an early example of God reaching out the Gentiles