A Pondering of the Peculiar (3)

[CabVet]

Will you be like Pharaoh, who blindly rode his suicide charge between the parted waters while God's power was being undeniably demonstrated? Your heart has become hardened.

That pretty much sums up all you have, empty threats.

 

[HitchSlap]

You make conversations out of nothing when nothing is there. You are without a doubt, a creationist.

The only real issue is Jesus Christ, who died on a Cross to purify you of all the sin that you are. If that is not so? The whole world is living in illusion and a lie if you claim he did not exist and walk the earth.

Of course you can not see God, because his essence can not be seen. Can you see radio waves?
You will tell me that they do not exist because you can not see them?

I know.. You will tell me... "But, radio waves can be demonstrated!"

Just the same! You still will not see the radio waves when the power they hold is demonstrated. The radio waves remain unseen!


God who is unseen, demonstrated Himself...

Romans 5:8

But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in
that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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You can not see God's essence. But, He was demonstrated!


Will you be like Pharaoh, who blindly rode his suicide charge between the parted waters while God's power was being undeniably demonstrated? Your heart has become hardened.

Life and its energy that you see all around you could not have happened by luck.. upon luck.. upon luck. Its illogical to accept that it could. Its absolute denial to swear that it did.

It might be likely a Jewish rabble rouser named Jesus lived at that time, but why in god's name would you assume he rose from the dead? It's not even that rare of an event.

 

[GenemZ]

That pretty much sums up all you have, empty threats.

Why do you think Pharaoh kept pushing his horses on, into the parted waters?


It was an empty threat.



Buddha did not die on a cross for your sins.

Allah did not send his son to die on a cross for your sins.

Neither did Thor, nor Zeus.


There were empty gods.

 

[HitchSlap]

Why do you think Pharaoh kept pushing his horses on, into the parted waters?


It was an empty threat.



Buddha did not die on a cross for your sins.

Allah did not send his son to die on a cross for your sins.

Neither did Thor, nor Zeus.


There were empty gods.

Yeah, but god of thunder, c'mon ... that's pretty bad ass.

 

[GenemZ]

It might be likely a Jewish rabble rouser named Jesus lived at that time, but why in god's name would you assume he rose from the dead? It's not even that rare of an event.

Go study how the Roman's brutally and methodically crucified men. How they had it down to a science.

Then... Tell me how many ever survived that. It would make history in itself if someone had. There is only one record of someone surviving, and that crucifixion was cancelled after it had just begun. Crucifixion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


You need to also study in depth all that Jesus was subjected to before being hung on a cross. You would not have never survived even that much. Jesus was a perfect human specimen. He had no defect.

The average man being subjected to what Jesus went through would have died before being lifted up to have his cross slam down into its securing hole. The very force of being dropped down into that hole and suddenly hitting bottom, pulled men's bones out of joint.

Hollywood always sanitizes the crucifixion depiction. What Jesus was put through was horrendous. His face was so disfigured by the Roman soldiers beating him that he stopped looking like a man.


And, all you can do, when shown such answers? Is to retort with some flip, superficial comment, as your means to demean what would require of you too much concentration for you to bear. If you were able to concentrate to the required level you might just find truth. But.. always skimming the surface. Never getting to the meat of the matter. Always on the outside, unable to look in.

 

[HitchSlap]

Go study how the Roman's brutally and methodically crucified men. How they had it down to a science.

Then... Tell me how many ever survived that. It would make history in itself if someone had. There is only one record of someone surviving, and that crucifixion was cancelled after it had just begun. Crucifixion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


You need to also study in depth all that Jesus was subjected to before being hung on a cross. You would not have never survived even that much. Jesus was a perfect human specimen. He had no defect.

The average man being subjected to what Jesus went through would have died before being lifted up to have his cross slam down into its securing hole. The very force of being dropped down into that hole and suddenly hitting bottom, pulled men's bones out of joint.

Hollywood always sanitizes the crucifixion depiction. What Jesus was put through was horrendous. His face was so disfigured by the Roman soldiers beating him that he stopped looking like a man.


And, all you can do, when shown such answers? Is to retort with some flip, superficial comment, as your means to demean what would require of you too much concentration for you to bear. If you were able to concentrate to the required level you might just find truth. But.. always skimming the surface. Never getting to the meat of the matter. Always on the outside, unable to look in.

Rising from the dead, not so unique. A lot of gods have defeated death. It's nothing new.

 

[AV1611VET]

Rising from the dead, not so unique. A lot of gods have defeated death. It's nothing new.

I love this point:

John 11:43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

Jesus had to specify Lazarus.

Had He not done that, they would have all come forth!

 

[CabVet]

I love this point:

John 11:43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

Jesus had to specify Lazarus.

Had He not done that, they would have all come forth!

Oh, really? So, was there only one dead person named Lazarus when Jesus said that? Or were there many resurrected "Lazarus" walking around? According to your interpretation, it is either one or another, which one is it?

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh, really?

Yes, really.

Neat, eh?

So, was there only one dead person named Lazarus when Jesus said that?

Yupper.

John 11:38 Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.

It was a cave.

Probably just a handful in there.

 

[CabVet]

It was a cave.

Probably just a handful in there.

Oh, so by all, you really just meant all in the cave... I thought God's word would apply to all, not just all in the cave.

 

[GenemZ]

Rising from the dead, not so unique. A lot of gods have defeated death. It's nothing new.

That's inane. They merely claimed to rise from the dead.

The gods are veils for fallen angels to hide behind. They are liars. Every one of them.

But, be that as it may. Have a nice day. There is no reasoning with you. You have no solid grasp on what you speak, and live under the assumption that no one else does either. You presume the other one speaking is just as much in the dark as you are.

emptiness and darkness are hiding from the light, lest death be destroyed by life.

 

[GenemZ]

Yeah, but god of thunder, c'mon ... that's pretty bad ass.

My God created that thunder. And, he wants nothing to do with asses.

 

[AV1611VET]

I thought God's word would apply to all, not just all in the cave.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[GenemZ]

I love this point:

John 11:43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

Jesus had to specify Lazarus.

Had He not done that, they would have all come forth!

Never saw that before!


(That would have been one amazing lunch line! They would have all been famished!)

 

[CabVet]

Never saw that before!

(That would have been one amazing lunch line! They would have all been famished!)

Keep reading. Apparently, God's words are stopped by cave walls.

 

[CabVet]

Why am I not surprised?

Because you heard it many times before?

(That would have been one amazing lunch line! They would have all been famished!)

 

[AV1611VET]

Never saw that before!


(That would have been one amazing lunch line! They would have all been famished!)

He would have fed them all with a 2-piece fish dinner!

 

[CabVet]

That's inane. They merely claimed to rise from the dead.

And the Biblical narrative is not a claim, it is proved, right?

 

[CabVet]

He would have fed them all with a 2-piece fish dinner!

Yeah, all 3 of them.

 

[GenemZ]

Oh, really? So, was there only one dead person named Lazarus when Jesus said that? Or were there many resurrected "Lazarus" walking around? According to your interpretation, it is either one or another, which one is it?

Lazarus was not resurrected. He was only resuscitated. If Lazarus were resurrected he would have never died again. That is why Jesus declared that he was the resurrection. Not Lazarus.

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the
life. The one who believes in me will live, even though
they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will
never die. Do you believe this?”
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