a Christian only topic of vaccine mandates

[newwaytobehuman]

This ^. I support vaccine passports or more better vaccine ID which can fit in a wallet the size of a credit card, I always thought those should be sent out after you get the vaccine instead of a paper that can rip and such.

I still believe universal mandates would be best but I am not sure if they would work out Constitutionally

The kitten on your post is adorable !! I wanna hug it!!!

 

[Yarddog]

I have a thread JUST like this in the American politics forum so now for the strictly Christian version

I read yesterday that as of about four days ago some 56% of American adults support some form of vaccine mandates; meanwhile over half 51% supported them as a condition for indoor dining.

Do you support them if so under what conditions?

I support a business owner's right to require them of employees and more and more I am supporting them as a condition of large gatherings think concerts, sports games and the like

no here means that NO ONE should be permitted to have a mandate in other words if you vote no you are saying that neither government NOR private employers/ businesses should be able to enforce any kind of mandate.

I'm fully in favor of a mandate.

 

[dogs4thewin]

What was the ruling about, i'm sure it was some sort of a limited approval.

It is my understanding that if you did not comply with the mandate you would face a fine, but I am not completely sure.

 

[JIMINZ]

It is my understanding that if you did not comply with the mandate you would face a fine, but I am not completely sure.

When was this, what was the mandate for, does the ruling still stand today or was it a limited ruling?

 

[Taodeching]

When was this, what was the mandate for, does the ruling still stand today or was it a limited ruling?

It still stands, it was for the Spanish flu, it is now precedent, and the Supreme Court said a mandate can happen for public health which this is.

 

[JIMINZ]

It still stands, it was for the Spanish flu, it is now precedent, and the Supreme Court said a mandate can happen for public health which this is.

TYVM

 

[JIMINZ]

So if you do not get a vaccine you will not be shot but you will face limits on what you can do in public and non essential services you will be provided.

I find it amazing, you are so concerned that American Citizens should be mandated (forced) to receive a vaccine they clearly do not want, that they should be penalized for not complying with such mandates to the extent, you have posted this thread to speak out against fellow American Citizens in this way.

YET!

You have not to date spoken out about the 1,500,000 Illegal Immigrants which have come into this country in less than 1 year and which are coming at a rate of 200,000 every Month who have not been mandated to get tested for Covid 19 or a Vaccination, thus endangering the American population.

When I see the Govt. mandate on Illegals take affect, then and only then will I even consider getting the vaccine myself.

 

[JIMINZ]

It still stands, it was for the Spanish flu, it is now precedent, and the Supreme Court said a mandate can happen for public health which this is.

Is there a mandate from the United States Government, which orders (requires) it's Citizens to get a Vaccination for Covid 19?

 

[Sabertooth]

Nobody is going to put a bullet in your head!!

An economic "bullet" is still compelling.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

It reminded me of one of my brothers being denied access to technology because he went the naturalpath way and the other brother being given full access, both at the same time. Guess which one died of cancer sooner? While I hated watching the one doing it naturally last a year longer because of what he went thru it was enough for me to cast my vote for no medical if my food wouldn’t cure me. Hypocratic?

God knows best, Jesus created us not slime

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Other than maybe not be able to fully take part in American society. That is what I was saying if more and more pressure begins to be applied for mandates to the point that there are basically two classes of citizens ( which like it or not in this case is perfectly lawful.

Yes two class just like what the bible teaches.

Coercion is not from GOD

 

[Original Happy Camper]

It still stands, it was for the Spanish flu, it is now precedent, and the Supreme Court said a mandate can happen for public health which this is.

Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors as Pacifiers in Preparation For Martial Law

It is a 2006 article with these statements in it from another thread

"They're not using the term 'quarantine' - this is the term they're going to be using - it's called 'social distancing' don't you like that one," said the Pastor. (using it now)

Pastor Revere outlined the plan to carry out mass vaccination and enforced drugging programs in times of crisis such as a bird flu outbreak. (happening now)

"In the event of an outbreak or a bio-terrorist attack, there'd be a mass vaccination.
(it is happening now)

I FIND THE ABOVE FROM 2006 ARTICLE TO BE
DISHEARTENING

 

[dogs4thewin]

I find it amazing, you are so concerned that American Citizens should be mandated (forced) to receive a vaccine they clearly do not want, that they should be penalized for not complying with such mandates to the extent, you have posted this thread to speak out against fellow American Citizens in this way.

YET!

You have not to date spoken out about the 1,500,000 Illegal Immigrants which have come into this country in less than 1 year and which are coming at a rate of 200,000 every Month who have not been mandated to get tested for Covid 19 or a Vaccination, thus endangering the American population.

When I see the Govt. mandate on Illegals take affect, then and only then will I even consider getting the vaccine myself.

I did not say that they should not close the border. Actually, I do believe they should close the border and vaccinate those people.

 

[dogs4thewin]

An economic "bullet" is still compelling.

an economic bullet?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Is there a mandate from the United States Government, which orders (requires) it's Citizens to get a Vaccination for Covid 19?

nope but I believe the ruling was to allow cities to mandate not the federal government, only.

 

[JIMINZ]

I did not say that they should not close the border. Actually, I do believe they should close the border and vaccinate those people.

Actually I said nothing about the Border being closed I only mentioned the 1,500,000 Illegals now in Country, and the 200,000 each Month that are coming in, that you do not seem to be to concerned about not being Vaccinated, and being spread all over the Country.

I said.

When I see the Govt. mandate on Illegals take affect, then and only then will I even consider getting the vaccine myself.

By the way I live in a State where there is no Mandate to get Vaccinated, therefore I have not and will not, it's my choice.

 

[Sabertooth]

an economic bullet?

A literal bullet, "Do this or we will shoot you."
An economic bullet, "Do this or we will fire you."

 

[dogs4thewin]

Actually I said nothing about the Border being closed I only mentioned the 1,500,000 Illegals now in Country, and the 200,000 each Month that are coming in, that you do not seem to be to concerned about not being Vaccinated, and being spread all over the Country.

I said.

When I see the Govt. mandate on Illegals take affect, then and only then will I even consider getting the vaccine myself.

By the way I live in a State where there is no Mandate to get Vaccinated, therefore I have not and will not, it's my choice.

Yes, but a private business can still tell you get the vaccine or get out (if your profile is actuate I live in the same state and a person can also tell you that he or she will not associate with you anymore than he or she has to if you refuse to get the vaccine.

 

[dogs4thewin]

A literal bullet, "Do this or we will shoot you."
An economic bullet, "Do this or we will fire you."

and they have that right (particularly if it is an at-will employer ( which most are) and even if there is a contract they have the right to not reup, so they may say we must employ you until X date, but if you do not get the vaccine by that date we will not allow you to sign to extend your employment.

 

[JIMINZ]

Yes, but a private business can still tell you get the vaccine or get out (if your profile is actuate I live in the same state and a person can also tell you that he or she will not associate with you anymore than he or she has to if you refuse to get the vaccine.

The businesses only do that because the Govt. is chorusing them to do so.
Force your employees to get a Vaccination or face stiff fines.

It was not the Businesses idea .