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[fhansen]

Yes you would think that about those the follow God's word and not satanic doctrines of devils.

Nope, just the truth. Christians shouldn't be afraid of truth.

 

[BornAgainChristian1]

Um...no, there are plenty of those subscribing to SS as well.

I am not one of "those" nor do I argue about things that are not found in the bible or are extra-biblical. As I continue to point out if any of your claims can't be found in the bible they are moot.

 

[BornAgainChristian1]

Nope, just the truth. Christians shouldn't be afraid of truth.

You reject that truth by your unfounded false doctrines.

 

[fhansen]

Sorry I'm neither Protestant nor catholic and yes you both did much wrong in your history up to and including murdering born again christians. Yes I agree there is only one Church built on the ROCK CHRIST. http://www.baptistbecause.com/Tracts/TrailBlood.pdf

I've looked into it. I've read Boettner and Jack Chick too.

 

[fhansen]

You reject that truth by your unfounded false doctrines.

You reject truth-God's word-by presuming it's limited to Scripture. At least you've recognized it there.

 

[BornAgainChristian1]

You reject truth-God's word-by presuming it's limited to Scripture. At least you've recognized it there.

Yes I admit I believe the Bible, God's word only something you should know and do if you think you're a Christian.


Acts 4:19
But Peter and John answered unto them, and said, Whether it be right in the sight of God, to obey you rather than God, judge ye.

Acts 5:29
Then Peter and the Apostles answered, and said, We ought rather to obey God than men.

 

[fhansen]

Yes I admit I believe the Bible, God's word only something you should know and do if you think you're a Christian.

Never even hinted at anything else.

Acts 4:19

But Peter and John answered unto them, and said, Whether it be right in the sight of God, to obey you rather than God, judge ye.

Acts 5:29
Then Peter and the Apostles answered, and said, We ought rather to obey God than men.

Amen

 

[BornAgainChristian1]

Never even hinted at anything else.
Amen

Actually you did in your last comment when you said : "You reject truth-God's word-by presuming it's limited to Scripture. At least you've recognized it there." Kind of got caught in a lie there eh? So we know the time span of "NEVER" is just a few short minutes?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Actually you did in your last comment when you said : "You reject truth-God's word-by presuming it's limited to Scripture. At least you've recognized it there." Kind of got caught in a lie there eh? So we know the time span of "NEVER" is just a few short minutes?

By saying that the only valid truth is that found in Scripture itself becomes self defeating, seeing as Scripture itself makes no such claim.

This is the problem with Bible-onlyism, it's inherently self-contradictory and unbiblical.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[fhansen]

Actually you did in your last comment when you said : "You reject truth-God's word-by presuming it's limited to Scripture. At least you've recognized it there." Kind of got caught in a lie there eh? So we know the time span of "NEVER" is just a few short minutes?

A lie? A little dramatic aren't we? Or just plain priggish I guess. Or a bit ignorant. In any case I never even hinted that I doubt God's word. I may've misread your stream of consciousness in post 166 tho. If you're wording was meant to support Scripture as being the only source of God's word then I disagree

 

[Rick Otto]

Amazing how selective human hearing can be.

 

[fhansen]

Amazing how selective human hearing can be.

Amen. It's getting worse here too. And the writing isn't much better.

 

[BornAgainChristian1]

By saying that the only valid truth is that found in Scripture itself becomes self defeating, seeing as Scripture itself makes no such claim.

This is the problem with Bible-onlyism, it's inherently self-contradictory and unbiblical.

-CryptoLutheran

Actually it's a problem with those that look at other men to tell you what's in the bible rather than allow the Holy Spirit to do His job.


Interpreters fall into two categories: those who seek to interpret the passage objectively with respect for the original meaning of the authors, and those who have an agenda.

1 Corinthians 2:131599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.

But on the other hand if there was bible "onlyism" do you think there would be so many different denominations and so many of them going apostate because you allowed worldly unbiblical values and Political Correctness in despite God's word telling you not to?

2 Corinthians 6:16-181599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
16 And what agreement hath the Temple of God with idols? for ye are the Temple of the living God: as God hath said, I will dwell among them, and walk there: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and separate yourselves, saith the Lord, and touch none unclean thing, and I will receive you.
18 And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

 

[BornAgainChristian1]

A lie? A little dramatic aren't we? Or just plain priggish I guess. Or a bit ignorant. In any case I never even hinted that I doubt God's word. I may've misread your stream of consciousness in post 166 tho. If you're wording was meant to support Scripture as being the only source of God's word then I disagree

Yes I agree you are indeed ignorant to God's word and that is a choice you made on your own.

2 Timothy 3:151599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
15 And that thou hast known the holy Scriptures of a child, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation, through the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 1:211599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
21 Which by his means do believe in God that raised him from the dead, and gave him glory, that your faith and hope might be in God.


Colossians 2:81599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
8 Beware lest there be any man that spoil you through philosophy, and vain deceit, through the traditions of men, according to the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Jude 3-41599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, to exhort you, that ye should earnestly contend for the maintenance of the faith, which was once given unto the Saints.
4 For there are certain men crept in, which were before of old ordained to this condemnation: ungodly men they are, which turn the grace of our God into wantonness, and deny God the only Lord, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Galatians 1:81599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
8 But though that we, or an Angel from heaven preach unto you otherwise than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Psalm 19:7-141599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
7 The Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, and giveth wisdom unto the simple.
8 The statutes of the Lord are right, and rejoice the heart, the commandment of the Lord is pure, and giveth light unto the eyes.
9 The fear of the Lord is clean, and endureth forever: the judgments of the Lord are truth: they are righteous altogether,
10 And more to be desired than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey, and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant made circumspect, and in keeping of them there is great reward.
12 Who can understand his faults? cleanse me from secret faults.
13 Keep thy servant also from presumptuous sins: let them not reign over me: so shall I be upright, and made clean from much wickedness.
14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of mine heart be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord my strength, and my redeemer.


Yes once again the bible, Gods word disagrees with you.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Well we can go back and forth but history shows the Protestant Inquisition to be at least as heinous-none of it can be justified based on the gospel anyway. And the dark ages are typically considered to be prior to the time you speak of, ushered in by the fall of the Roman Empire. But go ahead and stay comfortably away from a church-or in a modern church that's isolated in time from the ugliest crimes that have prevailed-at least until you start witnessing their failings-which are inevitable. No excuses for the modern scandals-even a tiny percentage of clergy are too many-I just know that casting stones is a game I used to play but I no longer have that luxury-so I rejoined a group of sinners rather than play-act the saint. Again, there is and can only be one Church, wart's and all.

The irony is that our brother says that his hands are clean of Catholic and Protestant violence, but from what I read of some of his words, that simply isn't true. The seed of murder is in the heart, so the act of murder begins there.

“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.​

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.​

 

[Steeno7]

What's your theology based on?

My theology is based in Who God is, His character, and the recognition of how His very Being is expressed in His actions.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

My theology is based in Who God is, His character, and the recognition of how His very Being is expressed in His actions.

That's wonderful, but how do you arrive at "who God is"?

 

[Steeno7]

That's wonderful, but how do you arrive at "who God is"?

Obviously from His revelation of Himself as recorded for us in the Bible. The point is that Christian theology must begin with Who God IS, not with what God does, or has done.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Obviously from His revelation of Himself as recorded for us in the Bible. The point is that Christian theology must begin with Who God IS, not with what God does, or has done.

If it were obvious, I would not have asked the question.

Secondly, don't the acts of God (what He has done) demonstrate who is?

 

[Steeno7]

If it were obvious, I would not have asked the question.

Secondly, don't the acts of God (what He has done) demonstrate who is?

God does what He does, because He is who He is. We begin with who God is, and then proceed to what God does. God’s Being is the basis of His doing, and not vice versa.