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Your comprehension skills are lacking. Nobody has the morality to judge God, especially not an atheist who supposedly doesn't believe He exists anyway.
What's this got to do with creation and evolution?
In your head, maybe.-- Like I said, I can usually tell when I've made a good point.
Fair enough.
So it's okay for you to shoot down American Airlines Flight 11, but it's not okay for God to order the shooting down of its equivalent?
I read what you wrote after that, and all it is to me is a cheap denial of my point, replete with ridicule.Did you understand anything I wrote or was it just a jumble of words in an unfamiliar order to you?
-- Like I said, I can usually tell when I've made a good point.
I read what you wrote after that, and all it is to me is a cheap denial of my point, replete with ridicule.
Thank you.Even a chimpanzee using a typewriter might have made a good point given 2 million attempts.
Thank you.
I am not related to a chimpanzee in any way.
No, my comprehension skills are just fine. You apparently do not see the issue with claiming that none are capable of judging God and then going on to pronounce his actions "good". You either feel yourself capable of judging God or you are blindly following a being without knowing if his actions are moral. You can't have it both ways.
Certainly even you can think of at least one instance in which society might agree on what is moral or not, without the need for a "transcendent lawgiver?"In the absence of an absolute, transcendent lawgiver there can be no absolute transcendent moral laws. An atheist has no basis for making any moral judgements, as if there are no absolute moral laws, morality is reduced to a matter of personal preference.
God's moral law says that tne penalty for sin is death. The bible makes it clear that all have sinned. Perfect justice would therefore require that all be condemned. Fortunately for us, God reconciled His perfect justice with His love and mercy for us, by sending His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for our sins, and to be raised on the third day for our justification, defeating sin and death. If you choose to reject Jesus and His pardon bought on the cross, that is on you, and not Him.
Certainly even you can think of at least one instance in which society might agree on what is moral or not, without the need for a "transcendent lawgiver?"
I mean really, did you need a big guy in the sky to tell you it's probably not a good idea to sleep with your neighbor's wife?
Would you have shot it down if you had the chance to legitimately do so?
I don't know why you're using the phrase "deserved to die."
That's pretty strong language.
I suspect you're trying to get one of us to admit it, so it can be used against us in the future.
But I'll bite:
Those children [deserved to die] in the same way children aboard American Airlines Flight 11 would have [deserved to die] had you taken the initiative to shoot it down before it hit the North tower.
Simple. Your neighbour is not likely to take kindly to you doing that. Neither is your own wife.You have to ask yourself why that is?
Those children [deserved to die] in the same way children aboard American Airlines Flight 11 would have [deserved to die] had you taken the initiative to shoot it down before it hit the North tower.
The problem with your analogy is that we are discussing the killing of human beings by an claimed omnipotent and loving deity. Therefore I wonder why shooting down AAF 11 is the only option we should considered in your analogy? It all seams a bit narrow minded in my opinion...
You have to ask yourself why that is?
The problem is that you fail to recognize your current position before a holy God. Yes, He is loving, but He is also just.
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