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I mean in a context that women in modern times are thought to be corrupted (not my words and I think that'll attract a lot of hate, but there seems to be at least some truth to it).
From a Christian standpoint, yes, you're absolutely right: there's a lot of secular women that have become corrupted by the world. Secular men too. I don't think they're any less secular over-seas tho. I almost think they'd be more corrupted by the secular world.

Not gonna lie: Although I think dating for me would be a struggle even if I wasn't a Christian, being a Christian hasn't exactly helped the matter, especially b/c I'm more 'traditional' in my beliefs.
 
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From a Christian standpoint, yes, you're absolutely right: there's a lot of secular women that have become corrupted. Secular men too. I don't think they're any less secular over-seas tho.
I mean in both a Christian context and a secular context. And I do bet men are too, but men and women's part of the struggle are different.
 
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I mean in both a Christian context and a secular context. And I do bet men are too, but men and women's part of the struggle are different.
You'll have to expand on the Christian context. I'm not sure what you're getting at. You may get in trouble if you say it. But, I think you should be able to say what you want so we can try to help you. The mods may disagree, so ye be warned. I've been part of forums that were VERY strict on stuff like this.
 
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I mean in a context that women in modern times are thought to be corrupted (not my words and I think that'll attract a lot of hate, but there seems to be at least some truth to it).

Do you mean physically corrupted or swayed by ideologies like feminism? I’ve heard some are looking at other cultures for that reason.
 
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Do you mean physically corrupted or swayed by ideologies like feminism? I’ve heard some are looking at other cultures for that reason.
More so the ideology of feminism, but physically is a component of it too. I'm not saying that I even agree with all of it, but I am restating a theory. And I don't blame all women as a gender for feminism, but popular voices do corrupt company, some are more corrupt but some are less corrupt.
 
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More so the ideology of feminism, but physically is a component of it too. I'm not saying that I even agree with all of it, but I am restating a theory. And I don't blame all women as a gender for feminism, but popular voices do corrupt company, some are more corrupt but some are less corrupt.

I didn’t grow up hearing it and encountered it in college. The male examples I had were positive. They weren’t overlords. But they led their homes.

Submission was never bothersome. It doesn’t mean you’re weak or a doormat. But some had negative experiences and their associations are painful. The issue is hard for them.

I try to see both sides of the coin. I haven’t walked in their shoes. But personally, I don’t have enough buffers to be around feminists and not be affected. They’ll rub off on me.

I don’t believe men are my enemy or out to destroy women. I don’t want to emasculate them or malign boys. That’s wrong.

But the other side is equally bad. You can’t generalize and curse feminists. They’re people too. All of it is an outgrowth of broken societies. The fix goes too far. The heart is the problem. You can’t legislate it.

As for the physical, I think the bible supports good nutrition and exercise for the care of our temple. I don’t believe we should accept unhealthiness.

My body is meant to please my spouse and I want to do so. I have to be mindful of what he finds desirable. Requests for physical compromises don’t bother me. He isn’t rejecting me. He’s acknowledging his preferences for me.

Practically speaking, keeping yourself up has merits. Men have many temptations. Taking care of home resolves a lot of problems.
 
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Feminism goes in hand w/ my point the world's abandoning Christian ideologies. A key point of feminism is it teaches women shouldn't want a family in the Christian sense.

In regards to physical appearances: Is it just me or when you see pictures from 40-50 years ago & older, does everyone seem to have the same body-shape? Maybe some of the older crowd can chime in. I know it's Hollywood, but for example, watch a movie made in the 70s-80s, the jocks in those movies would be 10-times buffer if the movie was made today. I suspect beauty standards have changed pretty drastically w/in the past couple decades. It's not just 'people getting fatter', although there's that too.
 
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Women wore corsets in the past and girdles. But as things relaxed that fell by the wayside.

Everyone shouldn’t have children. That’s a lifelong commitment. If you don’t have a strong urge to be a parent and make the sacrifices without complaint you shouldn’t do it.

Children need loving homes where they’re wanted. That doesn’t happen enough.
 
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Women wore corsets in the past and girdles. But as things relaxed that fell by the wayside.
They still do ;)

I'm saying I think there's more body variation today.
Examples:
Thanks to today's tech & less working hour requirements, people can focus more on being fit
Today's tech & many jobs requiring no movement, can make more people be less fit.
Then you have people being OCD about what they eat & don't eat, some don't care.
Those are just a few examples how body diversity has radically changed the past few decades IMO

There's no doubt in my mind the standard of what a fit, athletic man should be has changed over time.

Everyone shouldn’t have children. That’s a lifelong commitment. If you don’t have a strong urge to be a parent and make the sacrifices without complaint you shouldn’t do it.

Children need loving homes where they’re wanted. That doesn’t happen enough.
I didn't mean not encouraging children. I meant it encourages women to be single. Although no children is a part of that of course.
 
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They still do ;)

LOL If I ever stop hammering!

Thanks to today's tech & less working hour requirements, people can focus more on being fit

I like exercising at home. I think its easier to be consistent.

Then you have people being OCD about what they eat & don't eat, some don't care.

I used to be overzealous but I’m more balanced. I need to be more diligent about eating. Having one meal a day isn’t good for my system.

I didn't mean not encouraging children. I meant it encourages women to be single. Although no children is a part of that of course.

Singleness can be easier in some respects. The longer you’re alone you get set in your ways. And you don’t want to rock the boat.
 
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LOL If I ever stop hammering!
Home projects? & How have you not worn it yet!!

I like exercising at home. I think its easier to be consistent.
To some extent yes, but when you live alone like me, it's good to go to gym where other people are exercising. Even tho I'm not directly exercising w/ them, it's not just me & my thoughts.

I used to be overzealous but I’m more balanced. I need to be more diligent about eating. Having one meal a day isn’t good for my system.
I do feel like people eat more than they should, but one meal a day isn't good.

Singleness can be easier in some respects. The longer you’re alone you get set in your ways. And you don’t want to rock the boat.
It encourages women to be single permanent. W/ how big the movement is, that can radically affect the dating pool.
 
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Home projects? & How have you not worn it yet!!

I’m still DIYing. I purchased a lot of stuff from Ikea and I’m organizing in the process. I have to work around my classes. I’ll have a break soon and will wrap things up

To some extent yes, but when you live alone like me, it's good to go to gym where other people are exercising. Even tho I'm not directly exercising w/ them, it's not just me & my thoughts.

We have a gym in the building. But I’m an early riser and I like quiet. I want to work with a personal trainer. Having my own setup is ideal. That’s an investment most men would agree with. He gets a gym and I get closets! :D

I do feel like people eat more than they should, but one meal a day isn't good.

Sometimes I forget or I’m not hungry. My appetite decreases in warmer months but I noticed a change last week. Hopefully it’s a fluke.

It encourages women to be single permanent. W/ how big the movement is, that can radically affect the dating pool.

It really doesn’t. Women initiate most divorces. If you remove the ones who don’t want to be in relationships from the pool you’re left with a healthier batch.

You want someone who’s willing to marry and stay the course. We all think we can do it. But worse can be pretty darned bad.

Don’t cheat or squander our resources and we’ll get along. :cool:
 
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Society is tearing apart. I long for the 90s very much, the last great fun time of America and civilisation. It sucks that Satan is allowed to temp and control humanity but when his time is up it is too late anyway. So in some kind of way, the effects of Satan still gets to stand. I feel cheated of this life, in some way.
 
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Society is tearing apart. I long for the 90s very much, the last great fun time of America and civilisation. It sucks that Satan is allowed to temp and control humanity but when his time is up it is too late anyway. So in some kind of way, the effects of Satan still gets to stand. I feel cheated of this life, in some way.

What do you miss about the 90s? What do you feel cheated out of?
 
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Society's march to secularism was more in the shadows in the 90s? Also it was before Internet & other electronic tech really started to dominate people's lives. Those are 2 I would say.
 
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Society's march to secularism was more in the shadows in the 90s? Also it was before Internet & other electronic tech really started to dominate people's lives. Those are 2 I would say.

I was online in the early nineties. I wouldn’t call it a utopia. We’d experienced free love in the sixties, the party culture in the seventies, and a decade of greed with films to boot. The nineties appear tamer in light of the excesses. But they weren’t innocent.

The Internet is a double-edged sword. It connected the masses and stole our innocence. We’ve encountered things we’d never see or know outside this space. And we’re all a little worse for it.
 
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Society is tearing apart. I long for the 90s very much, the last great fun time of America and civilisation. It sucks that Satan is allowed to temp and control humanity but when his time is up it is too late anyway. So in some kind of way, the effects of Satan still gets to stand. I feel cheated of this life, in some way.

In what way do Satan's actions still stand after his time is up? All these things and this life will pass away and there will be a new Heaven and a new Earth. Revelation 21:1 God wipes the slate clean, but we get to keep our souls and personhood and enjoy His presence forever. Do you mean that you will be cheated of knowing what it would be like to be married/in a relationship?
 
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Society's march to secularism was more in the shadows in the 90s?
It was in full swing back then, just not as far along.
Also it was before Internet & other electronic tech really started to dominate people's lives. Those are 2 I would say.
I remember dial-up Internet. People couldn't call you when you were on the Internet unless you had a second phone line. People would still spend hours online.
 
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The Internet became the third wheel. You don’t realize how many couples spend more time online than together. Even in the same house.

They find a spot and come everyday like regulars. I used to assume they were single. But the majority of people in online communities are married. Young and old; working and retired.

I saw a lot of breakups and affairs and developed a rule because of it. If I’m in a relationship I limit my time in online hangouts. If we get serious I quit.

The ones who couldn’t leave usually fell apart. It was like a crutch.
 
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