2025 predictions thread

[tailgator]

Yes; Zechariah 5:1-11 describes a nuke tipped missile.
But it, [they] will be destroyed on the ground by a massive Electromagnetic pulse, Psalms 7:12-16, Joel 3:4, +

A nuke explosion does not cause these effects.
The Sixth Seal will be a worldwide disaster, Jeremiah 25:33 A nuke war in the Northern Hemisphere, would not directly affect the Southern Hemisphere.
Isaiah 30:26-28 & 30 proves that the Lord will use the sun to literally fulfil His vengeance and wrath.

PS
Scripture does not say this takes place in the northern hemisphere.It does take place in Israel though.




Revelation 6:16
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb


Luke 23
28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.




If you understood this nuclear war,you would know the combatants.You would comprehend this takes place in the middle east.Not South America,China,or Russia.But you fail to believe Jesus when he says nation rising against nation causes these earthquakes and fearful signs in the heavens .And you fail to understand which nations are at war.

 

[RiverJordan]

I do not believe God will use nuclear armaments as His weapon of indignation. He did not use man-made weapons with the flood, nor with Sodom and Gomorrah nor in the plagues of Egypt. That does not exclude their use in human vs human wars, but is not the cause of the Sixth Seal fear and loathing across the earth.

Those that say "Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us." are referring to the wrath of the Lamb and His appearing in the sky. They are not hiding from nuclear war but "from the presence of Him who sits on the Throne." Jesus Himself said that when "then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky then all the tribes of the earth will mourn."

 

[tailgator]

I do not believe God will use nuclear armaments as His weapon of indignation. He did not use man-made weapons with the flood, nor with Sodom and Gomorrah nor in the plagues of Egypt. That does not exclude their use in human vs human wars, but is not the cause of the Sixth Seal fear and loathing across the earth.

Those that say "Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us." are referring to the wrath of the Lamb and His appearing in the sky. They are not hiding from nuclear war but "from the presence of Him who sits on the Throne." Jesus Himself said that when "then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky then all the tribes of the earth will mourn."

What does scripture say causes the great tribulation?
Tribulation ,the likes of which has never been seen since there was a nation ,nor ever shall be?


Is it a man made object or does God make it?

 

[keras]

Is it a man made object or does God make it?

Deuteronomy 32:34=32 states that God has the means to send punishment onto His enemies and it will come when their foot slips. That is: they make a mistake.
God will punish those who hate Him and will clear and cleanse His peoples Land.

 

[tailgator]

Deuteronomy 32:34=32 states that God has the means to send punishment onto His enemies and it will come when their foot slips. That is: they make a mistake.
God will punish those who hate Him and will clear and cleanse His peoples Land.

Perhaps you misunderstood the question.
Try again Keras.

What does scripture say causes the great tribulation?
Tribulation ,the likes of which has never been seen since there was a nation ,nor ever shall be?


Is it a man made object or does God make it?

 

[keras]

Perhaps you misunderstood the question.
Try again Keras.

What does scripture say causes the great tribulation?
Tribulation ,the likes of which has never been seen since there was a nation ,nor ever shall be?


Is it a man made object or does God make it?

Your question is too broad. Also we know that God controls everything, so it is a moot question.

But, yes; God will instigate all of the punishments of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. But before them and as the next Prophesied event, comes the great and terrible Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.
We are told what God will use on the Day of His fiery wrath, the sun. Isaiah 30:25-30, Malachi 4:1
A Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude, will literally fulfil all the vividly stated Prophesies about that sudden ad shocking Day.

 

[tailgator]

Your question is too broad. Also we know that God controls everything, so it is a moot question.

But, yes; God will instigate all of the punishments of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. But before them and as the next Prophesied event, comes the great and terrible Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.
We are told what God will use on the Day of His fiery wrath, the sun. Isaiah 30:25-30, Malachi 4:1
A Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude, will literally fulfil all the vividly stated Prophesies about that sudden ad shocking Day.

My question is to broad?Hahaha
I'm talking about the great tribulation which John describes in revelation 6.

The great tribulation caused by the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem .

Mathew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand.

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.



This is why the people in judea flee to the mountains to hide in the dens of the mountains in revelation 6.



Luke 23
28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.






The abomination that causes the great tribulation in Daniel 12:1 at the time of the end is used when this verse is fulfilled.

Daniel 11:44
But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.



Now you say it is God who annihilates many at this time of great tribulation when the occupants of Judea go underground.But scripture shows it is the man of sins armed forces who place the abomination that causes desolation and annihilates many.


It's the armed forces who cause the land to be desolate=uninhabited.

 

[David Lamb]

My question is to broad?Hahaha
I'm talking about the great tribulation which John describes in revelation 6.

The great tribulation caused by the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem .

Mathew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand.

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.



This is why the people in judea flee to the mountains to hide in the dens of the mountains in revelation 6.



Luke 23
28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.






The abomination that causes the great tribulation in Daniel 12:1 at the time of the end is used when this verse is fulfilled.

Daniel 11:44
But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.



Now you say it is God who annihilates many at this time of great tribulation when the occupants of Judea go underground.But scripture shows it is the man of sins armed forces who place the abomination that causes desolation and annihilates many.


It's the armed forces who cause the land to be desolate=uninhabited.

I wonder where you find the US armed forces mentioned in Scripture? I presume you have some scriptural basis for saying, "The great tribulation caused by the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem."

 

[tailgator]

I wonder where you find the US armed forces mentioned in Scripture? I presume you have some scriptural basis for saying, "The great tribulation caused by the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem."

Most people believe the abomination that causes desolation was placed in Jerusalem in 164 BC because that is what they are taught by other men.


Jesus did not teach his students that the events in Daniel 11 were fulfilled in ancient times.He said it was a sign of his coming.There are many events in Daniel 11 leading up to the time of the end.Events that should not be ignored.


Mathew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand.

 

[David Lamb]

Most people believe the abomination that causes desolation was placed in Jerusalem in 164 BC because that is what they are taught by other men.


Jesus did not teach his students that the events in Daniel 11 were fulfilled in ancient times.He said it was a sign of his coming.There are many events in Daniel 11 leading up to the time of the end.Events that should not be ignored.


Mathew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

I don't know whether "most people believe the abomination that causes desolation was placed in Jerusalem in 164 BC because that is what they are taught by other men." As you say, Jesus, years after 164 BC, taught that the abomination of desolation was still in the future.

However, this doesn't answer my question about where you find biblical evidence that the great tribulation is/will be caused by "the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem."

 

[tailgator]

I don't know whether "most people believe the abomination that causes desolation was placed in Jerusalem in 164 BC because that is what they are taught by other men." As you say, Jesus, years after 164 BC, taught that the abomination of desolation was still in the future.

However, this doesn't answer my question about where you find biblical evidence that the great tribulation is/will be caused by "the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem."

I told you what to study.
Study is up to you.

 

[David Lamb]

I told you what to study.
Study is up to you.

I assure you I am not trying to be lazy. However, looking through your posts again, I don't see them telling me what to study. You quoted various bible verses, but none of them as far as I can see mention or imply the United States armed forces. What were you suggesting that I study that does show what you claimed, that "the great tribulation is caused by the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem"?

 

[RiverJordan]

The great tribulation caused by the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem .

Are you saying this simply as a possible prediction for 2025 (i.e. as this post title indicates) or are you saying this is guaranteed biblically?

What "abomination" would the US military place into the temple of Jerusalem?

 

[keras]

My question is to broad?Hahaha
I'm talking about the great tribulation which John describes in revelation 6.

You are in a lala land of your own fanciful ideas.
The Prophetic Word is of no interest or value to you.
Good luck, as that is all that can save you, as the end times events take place.

 

[tailgator]

Are you saying this simply as a possible prediction for 2025 (i.e. as this post title indicates) or are you saying this is guaranteed biblically?

What "abomination" would the US military place into the temple of Jerusalem?

My 2025 prediction is the first post in this thread.I haven't said anything else about 2025.

 

[tailgator]

You are in a lala land of your own fanciful ideas.
The Prophetic Word is of no interest or value to you.
Good luck, as that is all that can save you, as the end times events take place.

The great tribulation is not a fanciful idea .It is well documented throughout scripture.It is refered to as( tribulation such has never been) by the prophet Daniel and Jesus quoted Daniel .
I simply quoted Daniel as to who causes it

 

[keras]

The great tribulation is not a fanciful idea .It is well documented throughout scripture.It is refered to as( tribulation such has never been) by the prophet Daniel and Jesus quoted Daniel .
I simply quoted Daniel as to who causes it

The Prophesies describe a Day of the Lords wrath, the world changer which commences the end times, the Sixth Seal, and later the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls, culminating in Armageddon and Jesus' Return.

All of these are caused by God.

 

[tailgator]

The Prophesies describe a Day of the Lords wrath, the world changer which commences the end times, the Sixth Seal, and later the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls, culminating in Armageddon and Jesus' Return.

All of these are caused by God.

Actually ,the king of the south attacking the king of the norths armed forces commences the time of the end.Anyone who knows scripture about the time of the end would have known that.

So which of these two evil kings are you calling God?

"at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him"


Daniel 11:40-12:2

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.




Just in case you didn't know it.These people who were asleep in the dust wake up when Jesus returns.

 

[Jipsah]

The great tribulation caused by the US armed forces placing the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem .

Inventory Line Item:

Description - Abomination
Qty - 1
Unit of Measure - Each
Comments - Specialized weapon protocols required. Causes desolation.

Mathew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand.

Didn't mean a thing to the people who He was talking to at the time, then , did it? I mean, they saw the temple desecrated (made desolate?), and destroyed, and not one stone left standing in another. They saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies, and those who could fled the city. It's almost as though what our Lord told those folks actually happened!
Nah, He wasn't talking to them at all, was He?

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Wow, all those things did happen in the lifetimes of His hearers.
What a coincidence!

This is why the people in judea flee to the mountains to hide in the dens of the mountains in revelation 6.

Yeah, the Roman legions had nothing to do with it.

It's the armed forces who cause the land to be desolate=uninhabited.

Yeah, they certainly were.

 

[Jipsah]

I do not believe God will use nuclear armaments as His weapon of indignation.

Yeah, that's Lindseyism 101.

That kinda fell apart back in 1988, though, didn't it?