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[Hillsage]

So was Peter Satan at that moment? Or was Jesus addressing the spirit behind the man?

I think we are in agreement....with scripture. Jesus isn't calling anyone Satan, but Satan .

LUK 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

 

[justbyfaith]

On another note, Laying on of hands is said in Hebrews 6:1-2 to be an elementary principle in the doctrine of Christ; even foundational.

 

[sunshineforJesus]

I honestly don’t know. I wasn’t there to hear you speak the one sentence that you did. Had I been, I would have at least had the ‘chance’ to discern better. I believe from what I’ve read you are a sincere believer.

Thanks so much.

 

[Richard T]

"everyone who is saved is baptized in the Holy Spirit immediately at conversion. To say that you need more after salvation is to say that the Holy Spirit was insufficient. You are empowered by Him when you read God's Word and spend time in prayer and worship."

Then why this?
Acts 8:14-17 (KJV)
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Acts 19:2-7 (KJV)
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve.

 

[Hillsage]

Thanks so much.

Can you share your testimony of when you first spoke? Do you believe 'the sentence' you spoke was genuine? Or were you told to told to try to copy someone elses prayer tongue in an attempt to get you to just get started, so that's what you did? Do you remember why you stopped with one sentence?

 

[Hillsage]

On another note, Laying on of hands is said in Hebrews 6:1-2 to be an elementary principle in the doctrine of Christ; even foundational.

Correct, along with the elementary principle of multiple "baptisms/washings/ablutions".

HEB 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

And one of those baptisms is with the "laying on of hands". That is the baptism of the Holy Spirit to receive supernatural power/tongues. Scripture shows receiving it before and after water baptism, but never before the doctrine of repentance and initial salvation.

 

[DennisTate]

Correct, along with the elementary principle of multiple "baptisms/washings/ablutions".

HEB 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

And one of those baptisms is with the "laying on of hands". That is the baptism of the Holy Spirit to receive supernatural power/tongues. Scripture shows receiving it before and after water baptism, but never before the doctrine of repentance and initial salvation.

I agree... but I haven't received them lately myself......
but about two weeks ago I did seem to go up to a whole new level of fear of G-d.

 

[Hillsage]

I agree... but I haven't received them lately myself......
but about two weeks ago I did seem to go up to a whole new level of fear of G-d.

Not sure what you mean by"lately". Does that mean 'one', or 'more than one' baptism?

And what brought about an increased fear of God for you?

 

[sunshineforJesus]

Can you share your testimony of when you first spoke? Do you believe 'the sentence' you spoke was genuine? Or were you told to told to try to copy someone elses prayer tongue in an attempt to get you to just get started, so that's what you did? Do you remember why you stopped with one sentence?

No sorry I dont have a testimony of it,but yes it was genuine and after praying and seeking
the holy spirit during prayer for a long time.A women in church noticed I was having trouble receiving it,so she took me out to the hallway to talk and pray with me.After she prayed over me and laid hands on me is when I finally received and spoke in tongues. Um actually I guess that is a testimony isn't it? However after that day I havent spoken in tongues since,but know I am filled as I have many gifts.

 

[DennisTate]

Not sure what you mean by"lately". Does that mean 'one', or 'more than one' baptism?

And what brought about an increased fear of God for you?

My wife's church did a fire tunnel......
one day before I noticed this increase in my level of fear of G-d and
conviction over my pride and Laodicean attitude.......

The fire tunnel was done seven days before The DAy of Pentecost by the Hebrew calculations but..... it was on the Day of Pentecost as calculated by Christians.

 

[tulipbee]

for those that are serious in learning what happens during the events called physio-kundalini syndrome, go to page 183 of this online book: Itzhak Bentov - Stalking the Wild Pendulum - On the Mechanics of Consciousness

 

[Hillsage]

No sorry I dont have a testimony of it,but yes it was genuine and after praying and seeking
the holy spirit during prayer for a long time.A women in church noticed I was having trouble receiving it,so she took me out to the hallway to talk and pray with me.After she prayed over me and laid hands on me is when I finally received and spoke in tongues. Um actually I guess that is a testimony isn't it? However after that day I havent spoken in tongues since,but know I am filled as I have many gifts.

As I was reading I thought; what is she saying, this is a testimony. . So it sounds to me like you just need to stir it up again... like Timothy.

 

[Lost4words]

Looks rather scary to me.

 

[Hillsage]

My wife's church did a fire tunnel......

I've noticed a number of times, comments like 'the above'. So my question is, why is it 'your wife's church' and not "our church"?

 

[Hillsage]

for those that are serious in learning what happens during the events called physio-kundalini syndrome, go to page 183 of this online book: Itzhak Bentov - Stalking the Wild Pendulum - On the Mechanics of Consciousness

I thought his comments in the last paragraph at the bottom of page 160 were most insightful. Spiritual he is not IMO. Simply a mental man making an analysis of things spiritual. IOW spirit affects emotion and psychology affects physiology. Also his comments in paragraph 1 of page 183 were again most insightful as to his ability to judge spiritual things correctly from a Christian POV.

In college, studying for my doctorate, I too studied the homunculus. Indeed I think we even had to memorize parts for a test, if memory still serves me correctly. But when one is studying CNS (central nervous system) info., along with PNS (peripheral nervous system) I guess I found PNS to be more challenging. Since drawing the brachial plexus out for a PNS test was very much like memorizing a map to Chicago from my humble beginnings in western Kansas. Oh well, we all are on our own journeys, as Christians, to plumb 'the depths' which only the Holy Spirit can truly take those who are truly spiritual 'to'.

 

[tulipbee]

I thought his comments in the last paragraph at the bottom of page 160 were most insightful. Spiritual he is not IMO. Simply a mental man making an analysis of things spiritual. IOW spirit affects emotion and psychology affects physiology. Also his comments in paragraph 1 of page 183 were again most insightful as to his ability to judge spiritual things correctly from a Christian POV.

In college, studying for my doctorate, I too studied the homunculus. Indeed I think we even had to memorize parts for a test, if memory still serves me correctly. But when one is studying CNS (central nervous system) info., along with PNS (peripheral nervous system) I guess I found PNS to be more challenging. Since drawing the brachial plexus out for a PNS test was very much like memorizing a map to Chicago from my humble beginnings in western Kansas. Oh well, we all are on our own journeys, as Christians, to plumb 'the depths' which only the Holy Spirit can truly take those who are truly spiritual 'to'.

I think vibrations goes between spirit and human. Like spirit is formless and something from a spirit must start with a vibration. Then the vibration is something humans can deal with

 

[Hillsage]

I think vibrations goes between spirit and human. Like spirit is formless and something from a spirit must start with a vibration. Then the vibration is something humans can deal with

And “the father ‘of spirits’ is God.” Heb 12:9. I guess my opinion is that discerning whether or not something is of God’s leading or Satan’s, requires someone capable of knowing that difference to begin with. I’m of the persuasion that most here can’t, from what I’ve witnessed over the years, and that’s why they bring out the kundalini videos when the Holy Spirit isn’t discernible to them. It seems that a soulish judgement based upon what they see in the flesh, is as close as they can relate.

 

[Lost4words]

What did Our Lord do when He came across someone behaving like those in that video by the OP?

 

[Hillsage]

Are you referring to where Jesus basically rebuked them for not also dancing and then saying others have a demon?

Matt 11:17-18

 

[sunshineforJesus]

As I was reading I thought; what is she saying, this is a testimony. . So it sounds to me like you just need to stir it up again... like Timothy.

I seek Gods spirit all the time but am not sure how to stir it up again.