2018 outpouring, are you feeling it? I am!

[Hillsage]

PLease look what an ephod is. God was not commanding them as to what underwear to don. It is “an elaborate garment” upon which a breastplate is laid.

I did look, and below was the definition found for the Hebrew word BAD which was used to describe the type of "linen" his ephod was made of.

Heb. 1. SHESH, fine linen; 2. BAD, linen used for the underclothes of the priests; 3. BUTS, fine linen, perhaps from the Greek Bussos, of which the veil of the temple was made, and Mordecai was arrayed (colored purple) and the rich man arrayed in the parable; 4. ETUN, made of fine flax; 5. MIKVE, linen yarn; 6. SADIN, linen garments; 7. Gr. sindon. Egypt, from the most ancient time, was celebrated for its fine linen, which was used for the sacred garments of the priests, for mummy wrappers, and to write upon. Egypt, from the most ancient time, was celebrated for its fine linen, which was used for the sacred garments of the priests, for mummy wrappers, and to write upon.

Where does it say David lost control of his body? The evidence of the Holy Spirit being SELF control is not control of where the wind blows your garments.

A bit loose with the Word aren't you? She didn't judge him for wind blowing his garments, she judged him as vainly denuded when she said; "as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth/galah himself!"

1540 galah; to denude (espec. in a disgraceful sense); by impl. to exile (captives being usually stripped); fig. to reveal

Loose with the Word aren’t you here? She was barren, not a leper.

I'm going to say something here which may surprise you....you're right. I was remembering her curse wrongly but my point still stands. She was cursed for her false judgment.

I see no need to further dialogue with you Dorothy Mae, it really doesn't produce good fruit IMO.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I did look, and below was the definition found for the Hebrew word BAD which was used to describe the type of "linen" his ephod was made of.

The word is ephod, not bad. “Underclothes” arenot “panties” but the garments worn Under the breastplate.

Heb. 1. SHESH, fine linen; 2. BAD, linen used for the underclothes of the priests; 3. BUTS, fine linen, perhaps from the Greek Bussos, of which the veil of the temple was made, and Mordecai was arrayed (colored purple) and the rich man arrayed in the parable; 4. ETUN, made of fine flax; 5. MIKVE, linen yarn; 6. SADIN, linen garments; 7. Gr. sindon. Egypt, from the most ancient time, was celebrated for its fine linen, which was used for the sacred garments of the priests, for mummy wrappers, and to write upon. Egypt, from the most ancient time, was celebrated for its fine linen, which was used for the sacred garments of the priests, for mummy wrappers, and to write upon.

Consisted of a robe like garment. Look at the description without thinking “briefs.”

A bit loose with the Word aren't you?

No, I’m accurate.

She didn't judge him for wind blowing his garments, she judged him as vainly denuded when she said; "as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth/galah himself!"

“Denuded” comes from your imagination. Doesn’t say that.

1540 galah; to denude (espec. in a disgraceful sense); by impl. to exile (captives being usually stripped); fig. to reveal

A word not found in the text.

I'm going to say something here which may surprise you....you're right. I was remembering her curse wrongly but my point still stands. She was cursed for her false judgment.

Your knowledge of scripture is very weak.

I see no need to further dialogue with you Dorothy Mae, it really doesn't produce good fruit IMO.

You have to admit you’re wrong. I can see why why don’t like the fruit. You like to think David was a flasher. Not good fruit, true.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I suppose this same thread can appear in 2019 and 2020 too. Just change a few digits and one can use it again....yawn

 

[DennisTate]

So how many have you and your wife prayed for who were healed?

i don't know..... my wife was given a prophecy back in the year 2000 that I would work for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on the internet.......
and the vast bulk of the writing that I do is on secular discussion forums.......

I asked for confirmation that what I was writing was having a positive effect a few weeks ago and within days got three exceptionally positive replies that proved that I had not been wasting my time online.

If you are interested in witnessing more effectively to others I would recommend.......
reading about Colton Burpo....... his near death experience is like new wine..... that is especially effective on new people.......
the Scriptures are like old wine......


Luk 5:39

No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

i don't know..... my wife was given a prophecy back in the year 2000 that I would work for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on the internet.......
and the vast bulk of the writing that I do is on secular discussion forums.......

I asked for confirmation that what I was writing was having a positive effect a few weeks ago and within days got three exceptionally positive replies that proved that I had not been wasting my time online.

If you are interested in witnessing more effectively to others I would recommend.......
reading about Colton Burpo....... his near death experience is like new wine..... that is especially effective on new people.......
the Scriptures are like old wine......


Luk 5:39

No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

All that is well and good but I asked how many people you have prayed for and got healed. I did not ask how many people like what you write on the internet. I have known a lot of high praise from the net and while it is helpful and encouraging, remember that false doctrine is also praised to the nth degree by those who like that sort of thing. I would advise you to take that lightly. There are a lot of people who love false and comforting doctrine.

If you have never prayed for anyone who was sick who miraculously recovered it is oK. Neither have a lot of people. But I would be careful about teaching anything on what you yourself have never been engaged it. Those who have can tell the difference. No disrespect intended. If God is using you on the net to reach and help people, continue with his blessing.

 

[DennisTate]

All that is well and good but I asked how many people you have prayed for and got healed. I did not ask how many people like what you write on the internet. I have known a lot of high praise from the net and while it is helpful and encouraging, remember that false doctrine is also praised to the nth degree by those who like that sort of thing. I would advise you to take that lightly. There are a lot of people who love false and comforting doctrine.

If you have never prayed for anyone who was sick who miraculously recovered it is oK. Neither have a lot of people. But I would be careful about teaching anything on what you yourself have never been engaged it. Those who have can tell the difference. No disrespect intended. If God is using you on the net to reach and help people, continue with his blessing.

My wife has prayed for quite a few people and they were healed.......
I being one of them......
somehow she was actually told to fast and pray for me for 35 days.... and she did it......

Back in the year 2000 ..... for four weeks she fasted for three days / week.... and then seven days in a row for the fifth week......
Messiah Yeshua - Jesus woke her up early and got her to pray for me and I was 3000 miles north north east of her receiving Deliverance......

I usually tell people how gifted my wife is and encourage them to get her to pray for them..... I figure that is in line with.......

Proverbs 27:2

Let another man praise you, and not your own mouth;
A stranger, and not your own lips.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

My wife has prayed for quite a few people and they were healed.......
I being one of them......
somehow she was actually told to fast and pray for me for 35 days.... and she did it......

Back in the year 2000 ..... for four weeks she fasted for three days / week.... and then seven days in a row for the fifth week......
Messiah Yeshua - Jesus woke her up early and got her to pray for me and I was 3000 miles north north east of her receiving Deliverance......

I usually tell people how gifted my wife is and encourage them to get her to pray for them..... I figure that is in line with.......

Proverbs 27:2

Let another man praise you, and not your own mouth;
A stranger, and not your own lips.

OK... I remember each time this was granted but OK. And um deliverance is not called “healing” actually. These are entirely different matters.

Since your wife is part of your “own flesh” biblically, it is close to praising yourself but it’s OK. Nice to see that you admire her. What a devoted husband! Sweet to see. My respect. Not too many husbands like you and may the Lord bless you in your marriage.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Good question..... begin with getting a group of people into one place..... in a similar mind set.....

Acts 2:1

¶
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

Find a group of people who believe that the unconverted disciples of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus who were sent out.... even had authority to cast out devils and cure diseases.

Luk 10:1

¶
After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come."

Luk 10:17

¶
And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name."
.....
Notice how Cephas / Peter.. would be actually converted in the future... I believe on the day of Pentecost of Acts chapter 2.

Luk 22:32

But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and whenthou art converted, strengthen thy brethren."


So.... if seventy relatively unconverted disciples of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus could pray for the sick and they be healed........
then how much more so ordinary Christians after.. .the fulfillment of Acts chapter 2.

I agree with my wife's group that healing and other miracles are not limited only to professionals.

None of this describes fire tunnels, people losing control of their limbs and bodies or people babbling like animals uncontrollably. This kind of behavior is not described in the Bible.

What the Bible says is the Holy spirit generates self control. The Bible says the spirit of a prophet is under the control of the prophet. The Bible says meetings ought to be ordily.

 

[tulipbee]

So what did the Holy Spirit illluminate in the scripture for you recently?

that 66 books is authored by God while the extra 7 books were not

 

[Dorothy Mae]

that 66 books is authored by God while the extra 7 books were not

Ah no, Moses wrote some. Jeremiah did some. David did some. No book says “I, God, wrote this with my own hand.” Sorry but no Bible author says God, not they, wrote the words and they watched.

To be charitable, doesn’t mean the words are not the mind of God nor are they merely the mind of men. They are inspired and powerful and reflect He who inspire the men. Remember God spoke through a donkey once. God doesn’t need a sinless perfect vehicle to communicate truth. If you found a spelling error in your Bible it doesn’t mean it’s not God inspired.

So God did not tell you that cause it’s in direct violation of the Bible, something God never does.

 

[tulipbee]

Ah no, Moses wrote some. Jeremiah did some. David did some. No book says “I, God, wrote this with my own hand.” Sorry but no Bible author says God, not they, wrote the words and they watched.

To be charitable, doesn’t mean the words are not the mind of God nor are they merely the mind of men. They are inspired and powerful and reflect He who inspire the men. Remember God spoke through a donkey once. God doesn’t need a sinless perfect vehicle to communicate truth. If you found a spelling error in your Bible it doesn’t mean it’s not God inspired.

So God did not tell you that cause it’s in direct violation of the Bible, something God never does.

God uses theomatics in some books regardless of who is the writer. There scientific proofs on top of it . some books don't have that fingerprint of God even though God's people wrote it

 

[Dorothy Mae]

God uses theomatics in some books regardless of who is the writer. There scientific proofs on top of it . some books don't have that fingerprint of God even though God's people wrote it

OK, if you want to think God took pen to hand and wrote down these things, I doubt anyone will pursuade you differently. And uh, science cannot possible prove your position. It is too bad because your position is a house of cards ready to fall. The truth is much better. Men of God inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote down what they knew. That is the truth.

 

[tulipbee]

OK, if you want to think God took pen to hand and wrote down these things, I doubt anyone will pursuade you differently. And uh, science cannot possible prove your position. It is too bad because your position is a house of cards ready to fall. The truth is much better. Men of God inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote down what they knew. That is the truth.

authored by God means just that

 

[DennisTate]

OK, if you want to think God took pen to hand and wrote down these things, I doubt anyone will pursuade you differently. And uh, science cannot possible prove your position. It is too bad because your position is a house of cards ready to fall. The truth is much better. Men of God inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote down what they knew. That is the truth.

And personally... I am not at all offended by the idea that in the end of days things will be explained in a manner that is much more clear and plain to understand.


John 16:25

"These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father."

I personally think that one major way in which this is happening is with near death experience accounts such as what little Colton Burpo experienced.

Colton Burpo Describes Heaven and Who He Met There

 

[DennisTate]

Where is "fire tunnel" in the bible or anything that even represents such a thing.
Brother don't be deceived.

1 Kings 8:11

"So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD."

2Ch 5:14

So that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of God.

 

[DennisTate]

I am not saying we do not have authority to cast out devils and pray for the sick. But this is not what a fire tunnel is, and we do not see or read about people flopping around and jerking uncontrollably in the bible, that is unless they are demon possessed. None of the scriptures you quoted substantiates what we see in these so called fire tunnels.

The first several paragraphs in this visionary dream present the idea that we Christians may be influenced by demons..... even if we are not possessed.

http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

 

[DennisTate]

I am not saying we do not have authority to cast out devils and pray for the sick. But this is not what a fire tunnel is, and we do not see or read about people flopping around and jerking uncontrollably in the bible, that is unless they are demon possessed. None of the scriptures you quoted substantiates what we see in these so called fire tunnels.

There is always a group of people who only seem to receive a lump in their throat and tears in their eyes in the fire tunnel......
I am one of those...... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and / or the Holy Spirit has never knocked me down during a fire tunnel... .and I think I have gone through more than five or so of them.....
The one I went through last year resulted in my experiencing a year of the greatest conviction over my sins.......and a clearer understanding of my sins than ever before.......

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

kundalini cult shenanigans

 

[amariselle]

kundalini cult shenanigans

Yes, they are exactly the same “manifestations” seen in Hinduism.

 

[DennisTate]

kundalini cult shenanigans

Back in 1988 I would have probably agreed with that theory but these days I think otherwise...........