2 Thessalonians 2:4 Geography Question

[daq]

Here's the real question which will not be answered in this thread.. because the answer is obvious..

Has the Day of the Lord come?

You already presented your "real question" to me and I already answered it in the place where you presented it so why do you ignore my question here in the OP of this thread? Please post your "real question" in one of your own "real threads" started by yourself.

 

[Old Timer]

And the reason is obvious here.. you're simply one of many false teachers who claim not only that the Day of the Lord has come, but that the man of sin sits within the body of Christ..

Again.. not going to go over well in the end..

 

[Old Timer]

The logical question would be WHY?

Why is daq falsely teaching that the Day of the Lord has come?

Well, it's either intentional or it's unintentional.

If it's unintentional then it's a matter of deception..

If it's intentional (knowing fell well that the Day of the LORD has not yet come), then it's blatant disobedience.

Who would want any believer to think that THAT DAY has already come?

Any ideas?

Wild guess?

 

[daq]

And the reason is obvious here.. you're simply one of many false teachers who claim not only that the Day of the Lord has come, but that the man of sin sits within the body of Christ..

Again.. not going to go over well in the end..

How can a person who claims to know Yeshua tell outright lies about other believers and think that he or she will not be held accountable in the Bematos tou Christou and great day of judgment? I just got through explaining again to you in another thread that there are two temple and since I already reminded you above that I already answered your other question, in the place where you first asked it, that now makes your reply a false accusation times two, intentionally and purposefully deceitful, and nothing more than a feeble attempt at character assassination and slander, (not to mention now thread derailing and flaming).

Very interesting indeed.. for I do consider myself nothing but a reprobate.. completely unworthy of the least blessings in the Lord Jesus Christ..

Although if there's one thing I know.. it's that the DAY of the LORD is coming and men can't stand it.. you just said that you didn't mention it and then mentioned it as if it's only going to apply to my situation..

Clever but still only a thinly masked denial of the simple truth..

That coming Day.. the Day of the LORD.. the Day of Jesus Christ..

Say it.. go ahead.. it's realty not that difficult..

Well, in some cases it might be.

I spoke according to the Scripture which you claim to uphold.
The kingdom of heaven is like a net according to the Master whom you claim to follow:

Matthew 13:47-49 KJV
47. Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48. Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49. So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

See what a "castaway" is in the Scripture?
It is the worthless, rotten, rejected, throw away carcass of a fish:

2 Corinthians 13:5-6 KJV
5. Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? [GSN#0096 adikomos]
6. But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates [GSN#0096 adikomos].

Original Strong's Ref. #96
Romanized adokimos
Pronounced ad-ok'-ee-mos
from GSN0001 (as a negative particle) and GSN1384; unapproved, i.e. rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally):
KJV--castaway, rejected, reprobate.

So in my book you just claimed that you have already been to the Bematos tou Christou and were already rejected, (a castaway). As for the Bematos Judgement Seat of Messiah, (which most here like to think is the so-called Rapture) you might want to backtrack and read 2Cor.12 to see what Paul is writing about concerning the passage quoted herein above. As for you and your own appointed times; their time is not our time, his time is not her time, and your times will not be at the same times that my times were Old Timer:

Luke 19:11-20 KJV
11. And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12. He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13. And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14. But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15. And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16. Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17. And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18. And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19. And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20. And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:

Understand? It is personal and individual just as all the Gospel:

1) Then came the first . . .
2) And the second came . . .
3) And then another came . . .
4) And so on, and so on, until your turn!

Do you know the terror of the Lord Old Timer?

2 Corinthians 5:8-11 KJV
8. We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9. Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; (bematos tou Christou) that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

If indeed you overcome you will know of what I speak.
And in the after days you shall consider these things perfectly.
And just so you know your carcass will not be going up with you.

Does that reply sound to you like one who believes that your day of judgment at the Bema tou Christou has already come to pass?
I trow not!

And if you do not repent these words will also haunt you in that day:

Matthew 15:18-19 KJV
18. But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

1 John 3:11-15 KJV
11. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13. Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

You clearly reveal your heart by the murder flowing through your words.

 

[daq]

The logical question would be WHY?

Why is daq falsely teaching that the Day of the Lord has come?

Well, it's either intentional or it's unintentional.

If it's unintentional then it's a matter of deception..

If it's intentional (knowing fell well that the Day of the LORD has not yet come), then it's blatant disobedience.

Who would want any believer to think that THAT DAY has already come?

Any ideas?

Wild guess?

Dear Old Time Flamer,
In spiritual terms you need a bath because from where I sit you stink.
Perhaps your carcass is beginning to rot because the stench is really profuse!
Or I suppose if you insist on a wild guess it would have to be the murder in your every breath.

 

[Old Timer]

Dear Old Time Flamer,
In spiritual terms you need a bath because from where I sit you stink.
Perhaps your carcass is beginning to rot because the stench is really profuse!
Or I suppose if you insist on a wild guess it would have to be the murder in your every breath.

I know I know.. I'm a murderer for pointing out the simple truth here..

Desperate indeed..

 

[Old Timer]

Now who might want to accuse the Lord's church, the body of CHRIST, of being the seat of the man of sin?

Any wild guesses?

Hint.. he was a liar and a murderer from the beginning..

 

[Shocker]

Now who might want to accuse the Lord's church, the body of CHRIST, of being the seat of the man of sin?

Any wild guesses?

Hint.. he was a liar and a murderer from the beginning..

Ill take a guess.

Satan, and his pathetic followers claiming to be Christians on this forum.

Wolves, running around, foaming at the mouth..


Chopping up scriptures for their masters benefit.

 

[daq]

Now who might want to accuse the Lord's church, the body of CHRIST, of being the seat of the man of sin?

Any wild guesses?

Hint.. he was a liar and a murderer from the beginning..

Since you are telling lies about the faithful my guess would be your father.

 

[Old Timer]

Ill take a guess.

Satan, and his pathetic followers claiming to be Christians on this forum.

Wolves, running around, foaming at the mouth..


Chopping up scriptures for their masters benefit.

I'd say you're right on the money brother!

Keep that Sword sharp..

 

[daq]

I'd say you're right on the money brother!

Keep that Sword sharp..

Yeshua does not call his disciples to use the Sword to hack their brothers to pieces.
Hint, hint, it is for the enemy and therefore spiritual.

 

[Old Timer]

Since you are telling lies about the faithful my guess would be your father.

I'll tell you what..

My Father tells me plainly that any man who claims that the DAY of the LORD has come is a deceiver.. and any man who would attribute the seat of the man of sin to the body of Christ would clearly be the god of this present evil world himself..

The father of lies.

NOW, what's your father tell you concerning the DAY OF THE LORD?

Has it come or not?

Is it here NOW?

What's your father say daq, now's your chance to shine the light!

 

[Old Timer]

Yeshua does not call his disciples to use the Sword to hack their brothers to pieces.
Hint, hint, it is for the enemy and therefore spiritual.

How about the enemy who's pathetic enough to come in sheep's clothing?

 

[daq]

I'll tell you what..

My Father tells me plainly that any man who claims that the DAY of the LORD has come is a deceiver.. and any man who would attribute the seat of the man of sin to the body of Christ would clearly be the god of this present evil world himself..

The father of lies.

NOW, what's your father tell you concerning the DAY OF THE LORD?

Has it come or not?

Is it here NOW?

What's your father say daq, now's your chance to shine the light!

Are you illiterate? If so then perhaps I understand but I do not think you are.
Here it is for the third time from the previous page:

As for the Bematos Judgement Seat of Messiah, (which most here like to think is the so-called Rapture) you might want to backtrack and read 2Cor.12 to see what Paul is writing about concerning the passage quoted herein above. As for you and your own appointed times; their time is not our time, his time is not her time, and your times will not be at the same times that my times were Old Timer:

Luke 19:11-20 KJV
11. And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12. He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13. And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14. But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
15. And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16. Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17. And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18. And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19. And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20. And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:

Understand? It is personal and individual just as all the Gospel:

1) Then came the first . . .
2) And the second came . . .
3) And then another came . . .
4) And so on, and so on, until your turn!

Do you know the terror of the Lord Old Timer?

2 Corinthians 5:8-11 KJV
8. We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9. Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; (bematos tou Christou) that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

If indeed you overcome you will know of what I speak.
And in the after days you shall consider these things perfectly.
And just so you know your carcass will not be going up with you.
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Does that reply sound to you like one who believes that your day of judgment at the Bema tou Christou has already come to pass?
I trow not!

 

[Old Timer]

Does that reply sound to you like one who believes that your day of judgment at the Bema tou Christou has already come to pass?
I trow not!

I didn't ask about my day, there is no my day.. there is THE DAY OF THE LORD.. which is yet to come.. even THE DAY when the man of sin shall be destroyed by the brightness of HIS coming..

Care to try again.. this time answer the real question..

Has THE DAY of the LORD come?

 

[daq]

How about the enemy who's pathetic enough to come in sheep's clothing?

It is amazing to what lengths one will go so as to defame his brother. I mean pretending that you cannot read so you can call me a liar and deceiver? Too much. I'm flattered with all your attention!

 

[Old Timer]

It is amazing to what lengths one will go so as to defame his brother. I mean pretending that you cannot read so you can call me a liar and deceiver? Too much. I'm flattered with all your attention!

And you just called me a murderer.. are we a hypocrite now too?

 

[daq]

I didn't ask about my day, there is no my day..

Yes there is a "your day" and that is where you are in grave error.

 

[daq]

And you just called me a murderer.. are we a hypocrite now too?

No I did not: that is what the Scripture says. Have you ever heard of Scripture and the Testimony of Yeshua? You should try it sometime and perhaps all those words of hate flowing from your heart like the words of devils will be cast out from you too!

 

[Old Timer]

I find it amazing at what lengths deceivers go to.. even though I shouldn't.. it's actually to be expected as we see that Day approaching.

The DAY that the rulers of this dark world can't stand..

Regardless, it's coming.. and it aint gonna be pretty for anyone who's falsely teaching that it has come.. or is now.. or for those who falsely teach that the man of sin has his seat in the body of Christ..

Definitely not going to be a good DAY for that nonsense..