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Did Mr. Al Gore not know how much H2O is ADDED to Antarctica annually?

Do you believe that Mr. Al Gore DID NOT KNOW how much H2O was being ADDED to Antarctica?

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Or did he deliberately avoid getting into that potentially rather important aspect of how best to stabilize the climate?

If Canadians and Americans knew how much H2O is being ADDED to Antarctica annually we would know that Rising Ocean Levels are almost certainly the number one threat to the world economy posed by climate change.

Everybody who regularly visits Canada's Arctic know that they know that they know that they know that the Arctic is warming but the massive amount of H2O being ADDED to Antarctica each year keeps ocean levels relatively stable and consistent.


"At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie! That's enough= ice to form a layer one mile wide and two miles high from New York to Chicago. And this is the buildup of only one year!"
[Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory
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The following article (from 11/23) seems to tell a slightly different story about the increase in Antartica's ice. It makes it sound like there is a bit more of a balance between what is lost and what is gained each year, just FYI.

BTW, it would be very helpful to have a link to the information that you provided us with in the OP.


Antarctic Ice Sheet Mass gains greater than losses.

A new NASA study on the Antarctic Ice Sheet says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.
The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.
According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic Ice Sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to present. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

Thanks :)

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The following article (from 11/23) seems to tell a slightly different story about the increase in Antartica's ice. It makes it sound like there is a bit more of a balance between what is lost and what is gained each year, just FYI.

BTW, it would be very helpful to have a link to the information that you provided us with in the OP.


Antarctic Ice Sheet Mass gains greater than losses.

A new NASA study on the Antarctic Ice Sheet says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.
The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.
According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic Ice Sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to present. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

Thanks :)

--David
The West Antarctic Ice Sheet is extremely vulnerable to the threat of a rapid collapse. The W.A.I.S. sits on ice that is below sea level and could collapse rapidly if it were hit by a tsunami or if one of the ninety one volcanoes under the Antarctic ice where to become active.

I will dig up the full article that I found that quotation in.
 
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the Arctic is warming but the massive amount of H2O being ADDED to Antarctica each year keeps ocean levels relatively stable and consistent.
And what happens to the water added to the MELTING ice caps?

This is stupid.
 
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And what happens to the water added to the MELTING ice caps?

This is stupid.
You do have a good point that if we could not figure that one out we would not be using a very high percentage of that grey matter that God placed between our ears, water that is added to the Melting Ice Caps becomes rising ocean levels and on that note I would like to give you a question from basic physics that got me me kicked off a supposedly scientific discussion forum.

"Physics question related to the geography of the Bay of Fundy?"

"If average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters.... .would
the multiplier effect of the geography of the Bay of Fundy continue?

The fact that the Bay of Fundy funnels tidal waters plus......
it is over 170 miles long, (274 kms), it produces high tide level that are tenX to fifteenX over the difference in tidal waters where I live.

So... could high tide levels near TRuro, N. S. to Moncton, N. B. be up by a meter or more if average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters?" [Dennis Tate, March 7, 2021]

Here is the full article from which I got that quotation from the opening post.


Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory
Gershom Gale gershon1
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Geophysical science offers rather thin explanations for the periods of history during which great glaciers advanced and retreated from the polar regions, leaving a great deal of physical evidence.

The more one delves into the actual evidence, the more skeptical one becomes of the existing theories. The truth, according to the HAB Theory, is that periodically - at intervals ranging from 3,000 to 7000 years but averaging around 5,500 years apart - great global cataclysms have occurred which destroyed virtually all of whatever life forms or civilizations had developed on the Earth to that point.

The cataclysms occur when the Earth is thrown off balance due to a massive, unbalanced accumulation of ice at the polar regions. As these polar ice caps grow, their enormous weight, accumulating unevenly as it does, creates an imbalance, and a wobble begins to develop in the rotation of the Earth on its axis. Year by year, as the ice caps grow, this eccentricity increases until, with devastating suddenness, the polar masses are thrown toward the point of greatest spin, which is the equator. Quite abruptly, the areas which were polar now become equatorial, and vice versa.

The resultant cataclysm is, of course monumental across the entire face of the Earth, except at the two points which become pivotal when the capsizing effect occurs.


An Analogy:

Picture the Earth as a round ball spinning in place on a glass table top. Imagine then, that on the uppermost part of this spinning ball, you drop a tiny glob of molten metal, just slightly off center. The ball immediately begins to wobble...

Add more weight and that wobble becomes more pronounced. Add still more and the eccentricity becomes so great the centrifugal force of the spinning ball grips the weight and turns the entire ball so that the weighted portion is thrown to the imaginary line encircling the ball where the speed is greatest - which is coincident with the imaginary line on Earth known to us as the equator.

That is precisely what happens periodically to the Earth. The buildup of ice at the poles increases until its weight is suddenly thrown some 90 degrees from pole to equator. Yes, the Earth is 26 miles greater in diameter when measured around the equator than when measured around the poles, and one might argue that this bulge provides a stability that would make such a sudden tipping unlikely. But consider: such a variance, considering the size of the planet, is far less than the manufacturing tolerances of an ivory billiard ball.

As the sun evaporates the oceans, the moisture thus released precipitates as rain or snow all over the Earth. But the snows that fall on the polar caps do not melt or flow off at anything like the rate at which they evaporate elsewhere. Snow at the poles piles up and gradually turns into glacial ice. As this process continues, the ice caps increase in size.

At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie! That's enough= ice to form a layer one mile wide and two miles high from New York to Chicago. And this is the buildup of only one year!

These figures were confirmed by Franz Loewe of France and Malcolm Mellors of Australia. There is no mistake.

The present ice mass is considerably over 5.5 million square miles. If the South Pole were over Chicago, that would make a two-mile thick slab of ice extending from Hudson's Bay to Key West, Florida.

Even this wouldn't be a threat if the ice were perfectly centered over the Earth's axis of spin, but it is not. The wobble was discovered by astronomers in 1885. It amounted to only a fraction over an inch. By the mid 1930s, this had increased to just over six feet. In 1970, the radial movement was close to 80 yards. And right now (197, the wobble is approaching a half-mile in radius.

There is no known means of calculating the point at which rollover will occur, though the summer equinox is the most dangerous time each year. It could conceivably happen with another fraction of an inch of added eccentricity. Or the system may remain more or less stable even if the wobble worsened by another mile or more.

Eventually, though, it'll reach the point of no return and the capsizing effect will occur, with essentially no warning. Overcoming the gyroscopic stabilizing effect of the Earth's equatorial bulge, and in obedience to the laws of centrifugal force, the weight of the ice will be thrown toward the equator. The Earth will continue spinning on it's axis as before, but with some dramatic differences: The ice caps will be riding on the equator, and practically all life - Man included - will have been extinguished.

This is not just a one-time occurrence; it has happened over and over again=! There have been thousands of such rollovers, perhaps even millions, during the 4.5-billion year history of the Earth.

How much time have we got before the next capsizing occurs?

The interval between each occurrence in the past has ranged between 3,000 and 7,000 years. The longest period between tilts was just about 7,000 years, give or take 50. The physical evidence indicates that our present epoch has lasted approximately 7,500 years; we've been living on borrowed time for quite a while."
[Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory
Gershom Gale gershon1
@netvision.net.il]
 
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water that is added to the Melting Ice Caps becomes rising ocean levels
Where does that water come from?

And the answer to the multiplier question is yes.
 
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