more ice in Antarctica

[rjs330]

yeah.....December tondo's happen every year, and so common for those heat domes....stop denying reality and accept things are bad instead of playing the ostrich. it's disgusting that in a year climate changed destroyed towns and lives you can pretend it doesn't exist.

You should do some research on weather events. You'll find it's not any different than it's been for years.

 

[Ophiolite]

Man isn't killing the planet. The cli.atw changes as it always has. It isn't catastrophic.and it isn't us that's doing it.

Man-Made Global Warming is a Hoax!

The sea ice has melted before and didn't cause great harm and kill everyone. And it didn't happen cause there was too much CO2 in the atmosphere from man.

Relax people. We are not all going to die from global warming. It's not catastrophic. We do t only have a few years left to do something.

Let's take our time and do things well. Cause one thing we do know is if we panic and start doing things crazy then all that does is create other problems. "We have to do something fast before it's too late" only leads to more problems and unforseen consequences.

There is enough science out there that shows CO2 produced by us is not the problem the catastrophic folks would have us believe.

Relax. It's be okay. It's not global warming that's going to do us in.

Since there isn't an icon for "tragic, debilitating, anti-social viewpoint" I had to go with this post. I wish you a very long life, for I want you to realise just how wrong you are. Sad.

 

[essentialsaltes]

You should do some research on weather events. You'll find it's not any different than it's been for years.

Sure, that's why we run out of letters for hurricanes now.

 

[loveofourlord]

You should do some research on weather events. You'll find it's not any different than it's been for years.

Right....yeah, snow in texas that shuts down the grid because it's never happened before, tornado's that don't happen in December, the heat dome that last time it happened was almost a century ago. Please tell me how these things happen all the time.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

The earth has too many people, with entirely too wasteful and destructive lifestyles.

Where has God ever said there's a limit of how many people the earth can have?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Man isn't killing the planet. The cli.atw changes as it always has. It isn't catastrophic.and it isn't us that's doing it.

Man-Made Global Warming is a Hoax!

The sea ice has melted before and didn't cause great harm and kill everyone. And it didn't happen cause there was too much CO2 in the atmosphere from man.

Relax people. We are not all going to die from global warming. It's not catastrophic. We do t only have a few years left to do something.

Let's take our time and do things well. Cause one thing we do know is if we panic and start doing things crazy then all that does is create other problems. "We have to do something fast before it's too late" only leads to more problems and unforseen consequences.

There is enough science out there that shows CO2 produced by us is not the problem the catastrophic folks would have us believe.

Relax. It's be okay. It's not global warming that's going to do us in.

How does referring to a science denier help[ you? AGW is obviously real and you can understand why.

First question, do you understand that all scientists, well maybe a computer scientist or some other with no training in the hard sciences, knows that the Greenhouse Effect is real. That is easily demonstrable.

 

[rambot]

You should do some research on weather events. You'll find it's not any different than it's been for years.

"They've had them for years just never there" should be disconcerting.

 

[rjs330]

Since there isn't an icon for "tragic, debilitating, anti-social viewpoint" I had to go with this post. I wish you a very long life, for I want you to realise just how wrong you are. Sad.

You do know there are a lot of scientists who believe the same thing. I wish them a very long life too. And I wish you one as well! I just want you to know just how wrong you are. If you live long enough you'll find out.

 

[rjs330]

How does referring to a science denier help[ you? AGW is obviously real and you can understand why.

First question, do you understand that all scientists, well maybe a computer scientist or some other with no training in the hard sciences, knows that the Greenhouse Effect is real. That is easily demonstrable.

Because every single scientist that denies man cause global warming and catastrophe is a science denier to you and everyone that believes in it.

NASA Scientist: Global Warming Is Nonsense - Inquisitr

https://www.epw.senate.gov/public/i...s-all?ID=927B9303-802A-23AD-494B-DCCB00B51A12

 

[Subduction Zone]

Because every single scientist that denies man cause global warming and catastrophe is a science denier to you and everyone that believes in it.

NASA Scientist: Global Warming Is Nonsense - Inquisitr

<b>Climate Momentum Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made Global Warming - Now Skeptics</b>

Yes, scientists can be science deniers. Please note that the first man in your first article was a chemical engineer. Engineers will know some science, but they do not even qualify as scientists. Knowing how to apply one branch of science does not make one an expert in all branches. You would need to find a climate scientist, or at the very least one that has published peer reviewed works in a well respected professional journal.

Do you have any of those? Articles from dubious sources do not qualify as evidence in a scientific debate. At the very least they would have to refer to specific articles in peer reviewed scientific journals.

 

[rjs330]

And there's this.

https://www.heartland.org/news-opin...e-theory-is-hoax-award-winning-scientist-says

 

[Subduction Zone]

And there's this.

https://www.heartland.org/news-opin...e-theory-is-hoax-award-winning-scientist-says

You are still shooting blanks.

Do you have anything of substance?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Done and dusted, as the British would say when it comes to hydrologist, not climate scientist Dr. Jay Lehr:

Climate change: How denial is spread

The Times failed to note in its identification of Jay Lehr that he has been one of the leading climate-change deniers for more than a decade and that his employer, the Heartland Institute, is an agent paid for primarily by fossil-fuel millionaires and billionaires [“What should happen to the EPA?” Opinion, Nov. 22]. Lehr’s doctorate is in groundwater hydrology, so his claims to be a climate scientist are false.

 

[rjs330]

There is no science that has shown that we are headed for catastrophe.

But most scientists don’t agree with this,” said Neil. “I looked through IPCC reports and see no reference to billions of people going to die, or children in 20 years. How would they die?”

“Mass migration around the world already taking place due to prolonged drought in countries, particularly in South Asia. There are wildfires in Indonesia, the Amazon rainforest, Siberia, the Arctic,” she said.

But in saying so, the XR spokesperson had grossly misrepresented the science. “There is robust evidence of disasters displacing people worldwide,” notes IPCC, “but limited evidence that climate change or sea-level rise is the direct cause”

What about “mass migration”? “The majority of resultant population movements tend to occur within the borders of affected countries," says IPCC.

Sorry, the whole idea that we are all going to die or civilization will be in huge trouble is not shown to be true by any of the science.

Relax, we will be just fine. It won't be climate that causes world problems. It will be the judgements of God upon a wicked and unbelieving world.

 

[rjs330]

Done and dusted, as the British would say when it comes to hydrologist, not climate scientist Dr. Jay Lehr:

Climate change: How denial is spread

The Times failed to note in its identification of Jay Lehr that he has been one of the leading climate-change deniers for more than a decade and that his employer, the Heartland Institute, is an agent paid for primarily by fossil-fuel millionaires and billionaires [“What should happen to the EPA?” Opinion, Nov. 22]. Lehr’s doctorate is in groundwater hydrology, so his claims to be a climate scientist are false.

It's all forcasting into the future and it has been proven to be wildly inaccurate.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is no science that has shown that we are headed for catastrophe.

But most scientists don’t agree with this,” said Neil. “I looked through IPCC reports and see no reference to billions of people going to die, or children in 20 years. How would they die?”

“Mass migration around the world already taking place due to prolonged drought in countries, particularly in South Asia. There are wildfires in Indonesia, the Amazon rainforest, Siberia, the Arctic,” she said.

But in saying so, the XR spokesperson had grossly misrepresented the science. “There is robust evidence of disasters displacing people worldwide,” notes IPCC, “but limited evidence that climate change or sea-level rise is the direct cause”

What about “mass migration”? “The majority of resultant population movements tend to occur within the borders of affected countries," says IPCC.

Sorry, the whole idea that we are all going to die or civilization will be in huge trouble is not shown to be true by any of the science.

Relax, we will be just fine. It won't be climate that causes world problems. It will be the judgements of God upon a wicked and unbelieving world.

Sorry but you do not know this. I doubt if you even understand the Greenhouse Effect.

But it is interesting to hear you say that in a cold bedroom that another blanket makes no difference.

You should see if you can find some real experts instead of just science deniers.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's all forcasting into the future and it has been proven to be wildly inaccurate.

Nope. It has been shown to be amazingly accurate.

I know that you cannot support your claim. I do know that I can support mine. Remember, you need to use the actual predictions of experts. Not people like Al Gore. Yes, there were some that over hyped the problem. But the actual work of the IPCC has been pretty much dead on.

 

[rambot]

It's all forcasting into the future and it has been proven to be wildly inaccurate.

Radically incorrect.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Radically incorrect.

There are a range in values of various models. Some of the models are best case and worst case scenarios. When trying to debunk AGW they almost always pick examples that are worst case scenarios and say, it was not that bad, therefore it is busted. But when one looks at their best estimates, which are neither of the extremes, you will find that they were very accurate. As this article shows:

Analysis: How well have climate models projected global warming? - Carbon Brief



Unfortunately I cannot do a copy and paste on the interactive graphs. They do show the full range of predictions but the selected models are always those in the middle.

 

[rjs330]

Nope climate models have been wrong too often to be an accurate predictor about what is going to happen.

CNN Says Climate Models Are Flawed | Real Climate Science

Climate scientists admit their models are wrong | Principia Scientific Intl.

Science magazine blows the whistle on climate model failure