How Does Dismantling LBJ's Great Society Make America Great Again? (Ans. It doesn't.)

Fantine · Jul 4, 2025

There isn't a person around us who has not benefited significantly from the programs instituted by Lyndon B. Johnson in the 1960's and passed at great personal cost.

These programs: Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, Headstart, Higher Education Act (Pell Grants, student loans), Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, Immigration Act of 1965.

The Immigration Act eliminated quotas favoring Europeans.

Even the most conservative among you have been affected by these laws.

My grandfather died when I was 8 years old. He suffered a stroke and spent several weeks in a hospital for the destitute in East Meadow, NY. I'm sure that most states didn't even have a hospital like this for the poor. Seniors had no medical insurance at all.

Have your grandparents needed nursing home care? Thank LBJ. Did you need a student loan or Pell grant to advance your education? Thank LBJ. Did you or your parents come here from a country outside of Europe? Thank LBJ.

Before you join the Great Society wrecking crew, think about your life, your parents' lives, your grandparents' lives. Think about your friends' lives. Think about how these programs have improved our lives--or even saved them.

Thank you, LBJ. (Yes, you made mistakes in Vietnam but you changed our country for good.)

d taylor · Jul 4, 2025

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The country is not headed in a direction that can be maintained. I am no fan of Trump and would have rather have had Ron Paul in office (when he ran) and maybe there would have been no Trump to began with. But it is what it is so we will see, but i highly doubt any actual earthquake changes will take place. Unless the rapture happens during Trumps time in office.

dogs4thewin · Jul 4, 2025

Fantine said:
There isn't a person around us who has not benefited significantly from the programs instituted by Lyndon B. Johnson in the 1960's and passed at great personal cost.

These programs: Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, Headstart, Higher Education Act (Pell Grants, student loans), Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, Immigration Act of 1965.

The Immigration Act eliminated quotas favoring Europeans.

Even the most conservative among you have been affected by these laws.

My grandfather died when I was 8 years old. He suffered a stroke and spent several weeks in a hospital for the destitute in East Meadow, NY. I'm sure that most states didn't even have a hospital like this for the poor. Seniors had no medical insurance at all.

Have your grandparents needed nursing home care? Thank LBJ. Did you need a student loan or Pell grant to advance your education? Thank LBJ. Did you or your parents come here from a country outside of Europe? Thank LBJ.

Before you join the Great Society wrecking crew, think about your life, your parents' lives, your grandparents' lives. Think about your friends' lives. Think about how these programs have improved our lives--or even saved them.

Thank you, LBJ. (Yes, you made mistakes in Vietnam but you changed our country for good.)

Programs can run their course and/or get new requirements over the years.

Fantine · Jul 4, 2025

d taylor said:
The country is not headed in a direction that can be maintained.

That's right. Tax cuts for billionaires under Reagan. Tax cuts for billionaires under Bush. Tax cuts for billionaires under Trump. More tax cuts to billionaires under Trump.

It is unconscionable to enact these tax cuts which have exploded our deficits and national debt.

In terms of LBJ's Great Society programs--other technologically advanced nations do all that and more for their citizens.

Our defense budget is way too high. Immigrants are not "invaders." From ai: The budget allocated for immigration defense includes at least $29.85 billion to Immigration and Customs Enforcement until Sept. 30, 2029, with an additional $45 billion appropriated to the agency for detention facilities 1. The legislation also includes $47 billion for the construction of a border wall and $12 billion for state-level immigration measures 2.

Oh, I forgot...the current president commented at the Alligator Alcatraz that there are citizens he'd like to imprison there!

Save our great society.

Fantine · Jul 4, 2025

dogs4thewin said:
Programs can run their course and/or get new requirements over the years.

AKA dismantling the Great Society. No!

FireDragon76 · Jul 4, 2025

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dogs4thewin · Jul 4, 2025

Fantine said:
AKA dismantling the Great Society. No!

There are times when certain things are no longer needed. There are times when requirements need to get stricter.

dogs4thewin · Jul 4, 2025

FireDragon76 said:
Make America a Third-World Nation Again

How so we will see.

Fantine · Jul 4, 2025

dogs4thewin said:
There are times when certain things are no longer needed. There are times when requirements need to get stricter.

Exactly! Tax cuts for billionaires are no longer needed!

d taylor · Jul 4, 2025

Fantine said:
That's right. Tax cuts for billionaires under Reagan. Tax cuts for billionaires under Bush. Tax cuts for billionaires under Trump. More tax cuts to billionaires under Trump.

It is unconscionable to enact these tax cuts which have exploded our deficits and national debt.

In terms of LBJ's Great Society programs--other technologically advanced nations do all that and more for their citizens.

Our defense budget is way too high. Immigrants are not "invaders." From ai: The budget allocated for immigration defense includes at least $29.85 billion to Immigration and Customs Enforcement until Sept. 30, 2029, with an additional $45 billion appropriated to the agency for detention facilities 1. The legislation also includes $47 billion for the construction of a border wall and $12 billion for state-level immigration measures 2.

Oh, I forgot...the current president commented at the Alligator Alcatraz that there are citizens he'd like to imprison there!

Save our great society.

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The current system is creating more dependents on government and not less, that can not be maintained.

I live in a town of dependents and all they want is the government to give to them.

SavedByGrace3 · Jul 4, 2025

At some point, these programs, designed to assist people and get them back on their feet, did nothing but create ruts where people would rest and make a life of it. They were not designed to become a lifestyle. I heard a black man just the other day state that there is a growing consensus among many in their community that these programs did not help their people. They made them comfortable being in poverty, and it became a trap. Generation after generation was stuck in this lifestyle, content to remain poor, getting only enough to make it on a day-to-day, relief check to relief check basis. It was institutionalized poverty. It lowered self-respect and established hopelessness. It created a permanent underclass. It served to destroy the family unit because suddenly, families did not need each other any longer, so they fell apart. Our family received assistance a few times from these programs, but we never considered it permanent.
Yes, we need such stop-gap measures to prevent what happened in the Great Depression from happening again. However, this should not become normalized and permanent in families and communities.

dogs4thewin · Jul 4, 2025

Fantine said:
Exactly! Tax cuts for billionaires are no longer needed!

I was talking about programs for other people. Look, even as someone who is disabled I realize that if you are going to get money from the government you should be able to prove your need for it. If you are going to need it for something like just being low income you should be required to A prove your need for it and B work to no longer need it. If you asks me SNAP should come with stricter requirements as to what can be purchased like WIC like requirements.

dogs4thewin · Jul 4, 2025

d taylor said:
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The current system is creating more dependents on government and not less, that can not be maintained.

I live in a town of dependents and all they want is the government to give to them.

and these systems will force people out of that mindset in a hurry.

d taylor · Jul 4, 2025

dogs4thewin said:
and these systems will force people out of that mindset in a hurry.

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Well when the money (checks) stop's coming the crime rate will sore (at least in my area).

dogs4thewin · Jul 4, 2025

d taylor said:
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Well when the money (checks) stop's coming the crime rate will sore (at least ion my area).

and then you end up in prison ( which I DO believe in Rehab once someone gets to prison I AM left-leaning in terms of what deserves incarceration and how incarcerated people should be treated.

d taylor · Jul 4, 2025

dogs4thewin said:
and then you end up in prison ( which I DO believe in Rehab once someone gets to prison I AM left-leaning in terms of what deserves incarceration and how incarcerated people should be treated.

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Prison they are all ready at maxim capacity .

Mississippi prisons may soon exceed capacity – Jackson Advocate

dogs4thewin · Jul 4, 2025

d taylor said:
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Prison they are all ready at maxim capacity .

Mississippi prisons may soon exceed capacity – Jackson Advocate

I know that which is part of the reason why I do not support incarceration for non-violent offenders at least as a first option.

d taylor · Jul 4, 2025

dogs4thewin said:
I know that which is part of the reason why I do not support incarceration for non-violent offenders at least as a first option.

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The justice system is the most messed up area of government there is. Back in May /June i was in the jury pool to be selected for a murder trial. The murder happened in 2018 and out of 40 to 45 people to pick from, the lawyers could not agree on 14 people to select for the jury.

dogs4thewin · Jul 4, 2025

d taylor said:
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The justice system is the most messed up area of government there is. Back in May /June i was in the jury pool to be selected for a murder trial. The murder happened in 2018 and out of 40 to 45 people to pick from, the lawyers could not agree on 14 people to select for the jury.

The requirements are strict for a reason. They need people who can judge fairly and there are A LOT of reasonss people can be found unsuitable for particular judies and in some cases judy duty at all.

Larniavc · Jul 4, 2025

d taylor said:
The current system is creating more dependents on government and not less, that can not be maintained.

That's because employers give such poor working conditions.

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