It's getting worse for him.

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Trump tells us the "leader of the Taliban" called him "Your Highness" among other gaffes:
How is that a gaffe, do you know what gaffe is? apparently not.

Synonyms: blunder, mistake, error,
 
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Is that the best they can come up with? They should stick to talking about him being a criminal dictator.
Yea that's a twisted video, MSNBC doesn't even know what a gaffe is hahaha.
 
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Yea that's twisted video, MSNBC doesn't even know what a gaffe is hahaha.
They're obviously doing a fight fire with fire approach. But they need about a hour's more "gaffs" and him getting confused and wandering around lost, to catch up to what's been all has been shown of Biden. They need Trump to fall down a few times as well, not to mention falling up the stairs.
 
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They're obviously doing a fight fire with fire approach. But they need about a hour's more "gaffs" and him getting confused and wandering around lost, to catch up to what's been all has been shown of Biden. They need Trump to fall down a few times as well, not to mention falling up the stairs.
They are using smoke and mirrors instead of actual fire though lol.
 
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How is that a gaffe, do you know what gaffe is? apparently not.

Synonyms: blunder, mistake, error,
Technically, it's a lie, but given Trump's increasingly strange confabulations, I'm not sure he knows the difference now. I agree that partisans of both sides are looking for the smallest verbal misstep to accuse the other of dementia. We should keep that in mind. Someone else here linked:
Feb 14 (Reuters) - Experts on aging caution against concluding that U.S. President Joe Biden and his Republican rival Donald Trump are suffering from cognitive decline based on their verbal slip-ups, saying that mixing up names or dates does not necessarily mean a deterioration in mental acuity.
Biden, 81, a Democrat running for re-election in November, and former President Trump, 77, his likely challenger, have accused each other of mental decline. Trump's last rival for the Republican nomination, 52-year-old Nikki Haley, has said both men are too old to occupy the White House and should be subjected to cognitive tests.


And we should keep in mind that Biden's stuttering can cause him to use the wrong word or name, and Trump's tendency to embellish stories sometimes results in absurd claims like the above. And on campaign trails, it's sometimes easy to forget what city one is in, as Trump and Biden have both done. Trump confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Peolosi, or confusing one of his sexual assault victims with a former wife, is somewhat less understandable, as are believing that windmills cause cancer and thinking George Washington seized airports at Yorktown.

Trump is under a great deal of pressure and it's clearly impacting his mind. Biden is also under pressure. But he seems to be able to function well, as when he outsmarted the Speaker of the House in budget negotiations. And Biden clearly did better in the debates; Trump lost every one of them by the opinion of experts as well as in the polls. That was four years ago, but I doubt if anyone actually thinks that Donald Trump is smarter than Keven McCarthy.
 
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Technically, it's a lie, but given Trump's increasingly strange confabulations, I'm not sure he knows the difference now.
And how do you know it's a lie? Or are you just guessing he made it up.
 
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Technically, it's a lie, but given Trump's increasingly strange confabulations, I'm not sure he knows the difference now. I agree that partisans of both sides are looking for the smallest verbal misstep to accuse the other of dementia. We should keep that in mind. Someone else here linked:
Feb 14 (Reuters) - Experts on aging caution against concluding that U.S. President Joe Biden and his Republican rival Donald Trump are suffering from cognitive decline based on their verbal slip-ups, saying that mixing up names or dates does not necessarily mean a deterioration in mental acuity.
Biden, 81, a Democrat running for re-election in November, and former President Trump, 77, his likely challenger, have accused each other of mental decline. Trump's last rival for the Republican nomination, 52-year-old Nikki Haley, has said both men are too old to occupy the White House and should be subjected to cognitive tests.


And we should keep in mind that Biden's stuttering can cause him to use the wrong word or name, and Trump's tendency to embellish stories sometimes results in absurd claims like the above. And on campaign trails, it's sometimes easy to forget what city one is in, as Trump and Biden have both done. Trump confusing Nikki Haley with Nancy Peolosi, or confusing one of his sexual assault victims with a former wife, is somewhat less understandable, as are believing that windmills cause cancer and thinking George Washington seized airports at Yorktown.

Trump is under a great deal of pressure and it's clearly impacting his mind. Biden is also under pressure. But he seems to be able to function well, as when he outsmarted the Speaker of the House in budget negotiations. And Biden clearly did better in the debates; Trump lost every one of them by the opinion of experts as well as in the polls. That was four years ago, but I doubt if anyone actually thinks that Donald Trump is smarter than Keven McCarthy.
None of that disproves what Trump said was a verbal slip up.

And I think it's obvious the Taliban leader was referring to the highest official of the United States. But I guess some will twist anything.
 
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This thread had a small clean up. Stop with the snarky insults. Stick to the topic and avoid statements that criticize other members.

Please do not make us thread ban you. Or worse.
 
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And how do you know it's a lie? Or are you just guessing he made it up.
Inference from behavior. the winner of a war doesn't call the loser "your excellency." And given the numberous lies he's told in the past to feel better about himself, it's not hard to figure out.
And I think it's obvious the Taliban leader was referring to the highest official of the United States. But I guess some will twist anything.
Those guys aren't stupid. They are well aware of diplomatic nicities, and the head of the Taliban is a scholar of religious law and history. So not some bumpkin. He does seem to have been grifted by Trump in at least one particular, however. Trump apparently left him with what he took to be an assurance that the U.S. would leave behind military equipment in working order for his government. The Taliban let it be known that they were "betrayed" when Biden had troops destroy equipment that they could not take out with them.

It is true that Trump may have intended to make good on the pledge, if he had won the 2020 election. However, it was not part of the formal withdrawal agreement, and so Biden did not feel obligated to comply with it.
 
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Inference from behavior. the winner of a war doesn't call the loser "your excellency." And given the numberous lies he's told in the past to feel better about himself, it's not hard to figure out.

Those guys aren't stupid. They are well aware of diplomatic nicities, and the head of the Taliban is a scholar of religious law and history. So not some bumpkin. He does seem to have been grifted by Trump in at least one particular, however. Trump apparently left him with what he took to be an assurance that the U.S. would leave behind military equipment in working order for his government. The Taliban let it be known that they were "betrayed" when Biden had troops destroy equipment that they could not take out with them.

It is true that Trump may have intended to make good on the pledge, if he had won the 2020 election. However, it was not part of the formal withdrawal agreement, and so Biden did not feel obligated to comply with it.
A Muslim isn't going to refer someone to Allah.

The leader is more than likely not fluent in English knows enough to get by.
 
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None of that disproves what Trump said was a verbal slip up.
It just fits his other confabulations he makes up to impress people.

Trump began his presidency by lying about the weather.
It rained during Trump’s inaugural address. Then, at a celebratory ball later that day, Trump told the crowd that the rain “just never came” until he finished talking and went inside, at which point “it poured.”
This was the first lie of Trump’s presidency. Like his lies that same week about his inauguration crowd, it hinted at what would come next.

This was more like a family of lies than a single lie. But each one – the lie that the virus was equivalent to the flu; the lie that the situation was “totally under control”; the lie that the virus was “disappearing” – suggested to Americans that they didn’t have to change much about their usual behavior. A year into the crisis, more than 386,000 Americans have died from the virus. We can’t say with precision how the crisis would have unfolded differently if Trump had been more truthful.

Trump tweeted in 2019 that Alabama was one of the states at greater risk from Hurricane Dorian than had been initially forecast. The federal weather office in Birmingham then tweeted that, actually, Alabama would be unaffected by the storm.
Not great, but fixable fast with a simple White House correction. Trump, however, is so congenitally unwilling to admit error that he embarked on an increasingly farcical campaign to prove that his incorrect Alabama tweet was actually correct, eventually showcasing a hurricane map that was crudely altered with a Sharpie.

The slapstick might have been funny had White House officials not leaped into action behind the scenes to try to pressure federal weather experts into saying he was right and they were wrong. The saga proved that Trump was not some lone liar: he was backed by an entire powerful apparatus willing to fight for his fabrications.

When I emailed the Boy Scouts of America in 2017 about Trump’s claim that “the head of the Boy Scouts” had called him to say that his bizarrely political address to the Scouts’ National Jamboree was “the greatest speech that was ever made to them,” I didn’t expect a reply. One of the hardest things about fact checking Trump was that a lot of people he lied about did not think it was in their interest to be quoted publicly contradicting a vengeful president.
The Boy Scouts did. A senior Scouts source – a phrase I never expected to have to type as a political reporter in Washington, DC – confirmed to me that no call ever happened.
Yep, the President of the United States was lying about the Boy Scouts.

Trump, an incorrigible exaggerator, rarely chose to use an accurate number when he could instead use an inaccurate bigger number. So he said well over 100 times that, before his presidency, the US for years had a $500 billion annual trade deficit with China – though the actual pre-Trump deficit never even reached $400 billion.
Trump made versions of the “$500 billion” claim so many times that it became almost physically painful for me to fact check it any more.

We’ve established that Trump was not your traditional political liar. One of his distinguishing features is that he lied pointlessly, dissembling about trivial subjects for trivial reasons.
But he also lied when he needed to. When he told reporters on Air Force One in 2018 that he did not know about a $130,000 payment to inappropriate content performer Stormy Daniels and that he did not know where his then-attorney Michael Cohen got the money for the payment, it was both audacious – Trump knew, because he had personally reimbursed Cohen – and kind of conventional: the President was lying to try to get himself out of a tawdry scandal.

Trump’s re-election campaign was consistently and consciously dishonest, especially in its attempts to cast Joe Biden as a frightening radical. When Trump claimed in September that Biden would destroy protections for people with pre-existing health conditions – though the Obama-Biden administration created the protections, though the protections were overwhelmingly popular, though Biden was running on preserving them, and though Trump himself had tried repeatedly to weaken them – Trump was not merely lying but turning reality upside down.

Trump could have told a perfectly good factual story about the Veterans Choice health care program Obama signed into law in 2014: it wasn’t good enough, so he replaced it with a more expansive program he signed into law in 2018.
That’s not the story he did tell – whether out of policy ignorance, a desire to erase Obama’s legacy, or simply because he is a liar. Instead, he claimed over and over – more than 160 times before I lost count – that he is the one who got the Veterans Choice program passed after other presidents tried and failed for years.
And why not stretch? He knew he probably wouldn’t be challenged by a press corps drowning in other Trump drama. It wasn’t until August 2020 that he was asked about the lie to his face.

He promptly left the room.


So what? Some would say that he's just a blowhard, who lies over trivial things. But there's a problem when the blowhard occupies the oval office:

Lancet Study Finds 40 Percent of U.S. COVID-19 Deaths Could Have Been Avoided

The British medical journal the Lancet, on Wednesday, published a damning assessment of Donald Trump’s presidency and its impact on Americans’ health, concluding that 40 percent of the nearly 500,000 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. over the past year were avoidable. The journal came to the conclusion by comparing the U.S. health outcomes on the coronavirus—the country leads the world in COVID deaths and confirmed cases with more than 27 million—with the weighted average of other G-7 nations. So it’s not a wildly abstract conclusion to draw: the U.S. could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives if it had just performed similarly to its economic peers.

It's not harmless lies. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died because of his dishonesty.


Trump told Bob Woodward he knew in February that COVID-19 was 'deadly stuff' but wanted to 'play it down'

"It's not just old people," Trump told Woodward, acknowledging the gravity of the disease, The Washington Post reported.
 
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Maybe Trump's just been convinced by the left always saying that millions of people worship him.
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I don't know about millions, but there's a genuine cult around this guy. A golden image of Trump at CPAC just makes it more obvious.
 
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I don't know about millions, but there's a genuine cult around this guy. A golden image of Trump at CPAC just makes it more obvious.
I have a feeling those were created by those who claim he's worshiped. Do you really think that statue was an attempt at flattery?
 
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It just fits his other confabulations he makes up to impress people.

Trump began his presidency by lying about the weather.
It rained during Trump’s inaugural address. Then, at a celebratory ball later that day, Trump told the crowd that the rain “just never came” until he finished talking and went inside, at which point “it poured.”
This was the first lie of Trump’s presidency. Like his lies that same week about his inauguration crowd, it hinted at what would come next.

This was more like a family of lies than a single lie. But each one – the lie that the virus was equivalent to the flu; the lie that the situation was “totally under control”; the lie that the virus was “disappearing” – suggested to Americans that they didn’t have to change much about their usual behavior. A year into the crisis, more than 386,000 Americans have died from the virus. We can’t say with precision how the crisis would have unfolded differently if Trump had been more truthful.

Trump tweeted in 2019 that Alabama was one of the states at greater risk from Hurricane Dorian than had been initially forecast. The federal weather office in Birmingham then tweeted that, actually, Alabama would be unaffected by the storm.
Not great, but fixable fast with a simple White House correction. Trump, however, is so congenitally unwilling to admit error that he embarked on an increasingly farcical campaign to prove that his incorrect Alabama tweet was actually correct, eventually showcasing a hurricane map that was crudely altered with a Sharpie.

The slapstick might have been funny had White House officials not leaped into action behind the scenes to try to pressure federal weather experts into saying he was right and they were wrong. The saga proved that Trump was not some lone liar: he was backed by an entire powerful apparatus willing to fight for his fabrications.


When I emailed the Boy Scouts of America in 2017 about Trump’s claim that “the head of the Boy Scouts” had called him to say that his bizarrely political address to the Scouts’ National Jamboree was “the greatest speech that was ever made to them,” I didn’t expect a reply. One of the hardest things about fact checking Trump was that a lot of people he lied about did not think it was in their interest to be quoted publicly contradicting a vengeful president.
The Boy Scouts did. A senior Scouts source – a phrase I never expected to have to type as a political reporter in Washington, DC – confirmed to me that no call ever happened.
Yep, the President of the United States was lying about the Boy Scouts.

Trump, an incorrigible exaggerator, rarely chose to use an accurate number when he could instead use an inaccurate bigger number. So he said well over 100 times that, before his presidency, the US for years had a $500 billion annual trade deficit with China – though the actual pre-Trump deficit never even reached $400 billion.
Trump made versions of the “$500 billion” claim so many times that it became almost physically painful for me to fact check it any more.

We’ve established that Trump was not your traditional political liar. One of his distinguishing features is that he lied pointlessly, dissembling about trivial subjects for trivial reasons.
But he also lied when he needed to. When he told reporters on Air Force One in 2018 that he did not know about a $130,000 payment to inappropriate content performer Stormy Daniels and that he did not know where his then-attorney Michael Cohen got the money for the payment, it was both audacious – Trump knew, because he had personally reimbursed Cohen – and kind of conventional: the President was lying to try to get himself out of a tawdry scandal.

Trump’s re-election campaign was consistently and consciously dishonest, especially in its attempts to cast Joe Biden as a frightening radical. When Trump claimed in September that Biden would destroy protections for people with pre-existing health conditions – though the Obama-Biden administration created the protections, though the protections were overwhelmingly popular, though Biden was running on preserving them, and though Trump himself had tried repeatedly to weaken them – Trump was not merely lying but turning reality upside down.

Trump could have told a perfectly good factual story about the Veterans Choice health care program Obama signed into law in 2014: it wasn’t good enough, so he replaced it with a more expansive program he signed into law in 2018.
That’s not the story he did tell – whether out of policy ignorance, a desire to erase Obama’s legacy, or simply because he is a liar. Instead, he claimed over and over – more than 160 times before I lost count – that he is the one who got the Veterans Choice program passed after other presidents tried and failed for years.
And why not stretch? He knew he probably wouldn’t be challenged by a press corps drowning in other Trump drama. It wasn’t until August 2020 that he was asked about the lie to his face.


He promptly left the room.

So what? Some would say that he's just a blowhard, who lies over trivial things. But there's a problem when the blowhard occupies the oval office:

Lancet Study Finds 40 Percent of U.S. COVID-19 Deaths Could Have Been Avoided

The British medical journal the Lancet, on Wednesday, published a damning assessment of Donald Trump’s presidency and its impact on Americans’ health, concluding that 40 percent of the nearly 500,000 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. over the past year were avoidable. The journal came to the conclusion by comparing the U.S. health outcomes on the coronavirus—the country leads the world in COVID deaths and confirmed cases with more than 27 million—with the weighted average of other G-7 nations. So it’s not a wildly abstract conclusion to draw: the U.S. could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives if it had just performed similarly to its economic peers.

It's not harmless lies. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died because of his dishonesty.


Trump told Bob Woodward he knew in February that COVID-19 was 'deadly stuff' but wanted to 'play it down'

"It's not just old people," Trump told Woodward, acknowledging the gravity of the disease, The Washington Post reported.
People lie about other people all the time nothing knew
 
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