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The reason we shouldn't look to governments to completely keep us safe, at all levels. Because it's a washing machine with a bunch of clothes in it, not working together. Being replaced with more clothes.
If so, you don't understand anything at all about science. That's what scientists and mathematicians say when the numbers show evidence of something.
Nice try. Could have been 35%; it could have been 50%. Probabilities. But it's clear that hundreds of thousands of Americans died because Trump botched the pandemic response. The fact that other nations, who took effective action, had much lower death rates, pretty much nails that down for us.
We can test your assumption by looking at countries wherein the government did take decisive action. And your assumption fails.
You kinda described the Trump administration, except nothing was getting clean.
Well, it would cause Russia more grief in Ukraine, if the Ukrainians had more weapons to defend themselves. But should support for Putin be a higher priority than the good of the United States?
Where is the report so it can be considered with what the authors have said. That's evidence to compare facts on statements. No science or math needed at all.
its between 0% and 100% until the report and the authors statements can be viewed. Than a number can be determined.
No other nation has a constitution like the united states. That has a fair amount of impact on the response for its people. Pretty much every country has its own clauses on authority over those citizens.
I think China had the most success containing the outbreak. Should we have followed their example @The Barbarian ?
New Zealand, yes. Doing nothing much until it was too late to contain the worst of it, was a huge blunder.
So this kind of problem has been increasing since 1980 in the government per the graft. I don't see something that stands out. There are dips and increases all along the steady rising bar across the decades. That's suggesting it's fairly consistent no matter who's in office no doubt.
I guess you can’t lockdown forever
wwwnc.cdc.gov
Can't get much more dishonest than that.
China COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
China Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
Rgr that thanks, but I still don't believe the updated numbers far to low. That's typical of the country.
It's still a little boggling how the U.S data on mortality rate didn't mirror the average of other G7 nations but would of stopped a virus from infecting more humans if it did. Didn't know data collecting was so powerful.
Just a guess but I would say that because in the US if you had stage 4 cancer and COVID, you died of COVID, Same if you had a heart attack and COVID, you died of COVID. Even if you were in a car wreck but had COVID, you died of COVID.
You're going backwards. Excess mortality is a way of checking on actual deaths in a pandemic. Hence the huge increase in excess deaths during the pandemic is how it was discovered that the official death toll had been greatly under-reported.
So how does that lack of reporting stop the actual virus from coming in contact with people???You're going backwards. Excess mortality is a way of checking on actual deaths in a pandemic. Hence the huge increase in excess deaths during the pandemic is how it was discovered that the official death toll had been greatly under-reported.
We’re still learning just how badly America handled the pandemic—’excess deaths’ jumped nearly 85% in 3 years, study finds
People in the U.S. are dying at higher rates than in other similar high-income countries, and that difference is only growing. That’s the key finding of a new study that I published in the journal PLOS One.
Abstract
The mortality gap between the United States and other high-income nations substantially expanded during the first two decades of the 21st century. International comparisons of Covid-19 mortality suggest this gap might have grown during the Covid-19 pandemic. Applying population-weighted average mortality rates of the five largest West European countries to the US population reveals that this mortality gap increased the number of US deaths by 34.8% in 2021, causing 892,491 “excess deaths” that year. Controlling for population size, the annual number of excess deaths has nearly doubled between 2019 and 2021 (+84.9%). Diverging trends in Covid-19 mortality contributed to this increase in excess deaths, especially towards the end of 2021 as US vaccination rates plateaued at lower levels than in European countries. In 2021, the number of excess deaths involving Covid-19 in the United States reached 223,266 deaths, representing 25.0% of all excess deaths that year. However, 45.5% of the population-standardized increase in excess deaths between 2019 and 2021 is due to other causes of deaths. While the contribution of Covid-19 to excess mortality might be transient, divergent trends in mortality from other causes persistently separates the United States from West European countries. Excess mortality is particularly high between ages 15 and 64. In 2021, nearly half of all US deaths in this age range are excess deaths (48.0%).
The Covid-19 pandemic and the expansion of the mortality gap between the United States and its European peers
The mortality gap between the United States and other high-income nations substantially expanded during the first two decades of the 21st century. International comparisons of Covid-19 mortality suggest this gap might have grown during the Covid-19 pandemic. Applying population-weighted average...journals.plos.org
And no, they are not all lying.
No, that story won't fly, either. The cause of death had to be shown to be caused by the virus. But comorbidities did increase the death rate just as it does for influenza, cancer, heart disease, and so on. Do you think doctors don't know this? And no, they are not all lying.
You're confusing your hoaxes here. What you're referring to is the attempt by antivaxxers to show that COVID-19 vaccines were killing people. Here's how the hoax went:
