I think that conspiracy theories are imbedded all the way through society. Not just in the world of Christianity. The idea of a conspiracy is fundamental to politics.
I believe that every single Christian church has some level of a conspiracy theory, entwined in what the church teaches. Very evident in church eschatology and most profoundly evident, in how the church describes itself. A simple example; our church is the one true church.
I think your reply was aimed at someone else. That point you cited was not mine.In the OP and many posts after that we see many many examples of conspiracy theories endorsed by the Bible and a significant number of them are still applicable today when it comes to good angels vs bad ones and how the devil is at war against the church of God.
Your point of "well then the church must have a lot of those theories" is not the shocking conclusion you may have at first supposed. How could the church not have them - when it claims to teach what the Bible teaches? I don't see how that would even be surprising.
I think the word 'heretic' identified people who disagreed with a church teaching.Didn't they used to use the word heretic instead?
I would say there was a conspiracy by Herod. But, then, when he found out he had been tricked, he might have felt there was a conspiracy against him!
Now that post is riddled with conspiracy theories.I do want to point out however, because this can be dangerous territory, there are the Jews from Judea, then there are the Kharzar Jews otherwise known as the Ashkenazi who are in fact Canaanites/baal and moloch worshipers, of whom the Russian king at the time was displeased with and threatened to destroy unless they converted to either Christian, Judaism or Islam.
They chose Judaism but did not fully convert and still practiced their "devil worshiping" and have since then blamed everything they had done on the Jews. It is not the Jews, but those who pretend they are (Rothschilds we're looking in your direction).
And another point, some may be a bit bewildered to find that the "protocols of the elders of Zion" is not Jewish but in fact Jesuit, as it is identical to many of their known ancient writings. Just wanted to put that out there because sometimes Conspiracies can verge on the anti-Semitic.
they had a far more concrete world view and approached even the concept of God differently which is why the form, such as the law, the flood, the desert, etc.. comes first so that it may point to deeper stuff.You also see quite a lot about the Character of God...
Never forget that many of the the old testament patriarchs came to faith - believing in resurrection without direct knowledge of Messiah Jesus.
Nearly every conspiracy I have ever heard of was a false conspiracy. The definition of a conspiracy is about a group of people generating the conspiracy. Whereas a heretic is a singular person who disagrees with an established doctrine of the church.Which in effect has the same result in trying to discredit or shut down an opposing opinion.
Now that's a conspiracy theory!It is well documented that the Nazis based themselves off the Catholic church and the SS off the Jesuits, and they used the protocols as an excuse to attack the Jews. Even if the book was faked, it was most likely faked by Jesuits.
I would happily have a fair and open discussion about this.
Or in today's world a means to discredit someone else even if they have facts, especially as a matter of if they have facts because the attempt is to then not only discredit the person but the information.The definition of a conspiracy is about a group of people generating the conspiracy.
The great conspiracy that should concern us all, above all others:Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
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So then:
1. Invisible evil angels controlling/possessing-at-times humans to accomplish evil. 2Cor 4:4, Eph 2:1-5, 1 Peter 5:8, Eph 6:10-13
- 2 Cor 4:4 Satan is "the god of this world"
2. Invisible good angels providing miracles protection and guidance to help save mankind
3. Judas working with the Sanhedrin.to capture Christ
4. Paul being informed about a secret plot to take his life
5. God the Son becomes incarnate, virgin birth, savior of mankind so that a regular looking human turns out to be the God-man saving the world.
6. Christ in heaven as our High Priest "the main point" of Heb 8:1-5
7. The invisible Holy Spirit "convicting the world of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16
what others can you think of?
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Christianity is no stranger to conspiracy theories.
Yes the result is the same.Which in effect has the same result in trying to discredit or shut down an opposing opinion.
If they have the facts, then that would not be a conspiracy.Or in today's world a means to discredit someone else even if they have facts, especially as a matter of if they have facts because the attempt is to then not only discredit the person but the information.
That's what puzzles me. I had a Muslim flat mate who had a conspiracy that he believed resolutely. That the United States did not put a man on the moon. I was deeply amazed that a conspiracy theory could be so widespread and held so firmly in the Islamic world. Beyond any question the Muslims are wrong and regardless of the facts, that is what they believe.Exactly but it doesn't stop many.
That's Jesus. Mose had his mystic experience after 40 years of living in the desert, and he showed the power of God openly to the people and the Egyptians, before happened what you wrote. And it is not told that he fasted on Sinai.the bible hangs upon the ramblings of an old man who after 40 days of fasting had a mystic experience
Since Genesis contains here and there bits of information later than Mose(no, I don't refer to prophecy, but rather to Gen 36:31 and possible other bits), it is unlikely that genesis was compiled by Mose. The question how much of the Pentateuch was written by Mose himself is complex, unless you take "(book of) Mose" as indication of authorship instead common name of these book(s), there is no indication in the Bibnle that it was completely written by Mose himself.He then led them into a desert for 40 years where he writes the history books to his own liking as far back as 2500 years and law that foreshadows all things to come all while having secret tent meetings with the creator of all things.
The only incident in the Bible where the "ark of covenant" was used in that way, Israel lost the battle.oh, and they carry a magical box that holds God in it to win their wars
Not the whole Bible, but only the Torah (aka Pentateuch). And with some distortions, as explained above. But your limitation to the first 5 books of the Bible explains why you don't about know the defeat of Israel when they took the ark as refuge against the Philistians, and lost the battle.This of course would be a paraphrase of how outsiders view the bible
They try to make you feel like you are crazy when the facts are so numerous it is just that the people are above the law who the conspiracy is about. There are many conspiracies that have been prosecuted. They are called " Grand Jury Indictments" and they do come up- it just takes longer to bring them to trial or be paid off to dismiss.Yet it is very popular to deny that any conspiracy theory is legit
(Unless you work for the FBI, or CIA, NSA, or ...)
This theory is also active outside the Muslim world. Some ignorance about counterintutive facts (e.g. unless you have a modern digital camera, it is impossible to take a photo on the moon where you see the stars behind an astronaut - either the stars are too dimly and the heaven is black, or the astronaut is white because he is much brighter than the stars), and some distorted facts (e.g. the flag waving out of gravitity and lack of air presented as a flag waving out of wind, i.e. air) persuade some people that the whole "man on the moon" story is a fake.That's what puzzles me. I had a Muslim flat mate who had a conspiracy that he believed resolutely. That the United States did not put a man on the moon. I was deeply amazed that a conspiracy theory could be so widespread and held so firmly in the Islamic world.