Conspiracy theories in the Bible

[Alex Reynolds]

I am not disagreeing with you on that (although it is said the fake protocols came from Russia). I am saying the Khazar hypothesis regarding the origin of the Ashkenazim has been proven wrong.

No Evidence from Genome-Wide Data of a Khazar Origin for the Ashkenazi Jews

I can accept there is no direct evidence but isn't that the same about most parts of the Bible? If it is a myth than I accept that it is conjecture on my part and therefore opinion, but according to it's critics it is a myth, i.e you cannot prove nor disprove it, I will refrain from vocalizing it however that is fine. The protocols like I said is eerily similar to a lot of the Jesuit literature and very similar yet to the Khazar correspondence, which essentially states "pretend to be Christian then infiltrate society". That is exactly how the Jesuits acted I believe even in the UK around WWII. All in all though, a quote from a famous Jesuit goes along the lines of "we enter as sheep and rule like wolves" and they have a strong connection to families such as the Rothschilds ect. That being said, there are many well meaning Jesuits who have brought a lot of beauty to the world. Also with Genome evidence, you are aware that the Khazars where a multicultural Civilization like the Egyptians, there is no Egyptian race, but a mixture of African, Persian, Indo European ect. The same with the Khazars, you would have to compare genomes to a whole manner of different bodies to get a accurate result, no single Khazar will be related to all the Khazars.

 

[LightLoveHope]

Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
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So then:

1. Invisible evil angels controlling/possessing-at-times humans to accomplish evil. 2Cor 4:4, Eph 2:1-5, 1 Peter 5:8, Eph 6:10-13

• 2 Cor 4:4 Satan is "the god of this world"

2. Invisible good angels providing miracles protection and guidance to help save mankind

3. Judas working with the Sanhedrin.to capture Christ
4. Paul being informed about a secret plot to take his life

5. God the Son becomes incarnate, virgin birth, savior of mankind so that a regular looking human turns out to be the God-man saving the world.

6. Christ in heaven as our High Priest "the main point" of Heb 8:1-5
7. The invisible Holy Spirit "convicting the world of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16

what others can you think of?
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Christianity is no stranger to conspiracy theories.

All things work together for good for those called according to His purpose.

That is a conspiracy theory in the real.

God's will is sovereign, He has a purpose always

God bless you

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I can accept there is no direct evidence but isn't that the same about most parts of the Bible? If it is a myth than I accept that it is conjecture on my part and therefore opinion, but according to it's critics it is a myth, i.e you cannot prove nor disprove it, I will refrain from vocalizing it however that is fine. The protocols like I said is eerily similar to a lot of the Jesuit literature and very similar yet to the Khazar correspondence, which essentially states "pretend to be Christian then infiltrate society". That is exactly how the Jesuits acted I believe even in the UK around WWII. All in all though, a quote from a famous Jesuit goes along the lines of "we enter as sheep and rule like wolves" and they have a strong connection to families such as the Rothschilds ect. That being said, there are many well meaning Jesuits who have brought a lot of beauty to the world. Also with Genome evidence, you are aware that the Khazars where a multicultural Civilization like the Egyptians, there is no Egyptian race, but a mixture of African, Persian, Indo European ect. The same with the Khazars, you would have to compare genomes to a whole manner of different bodies to get a accurate result, no single Khazar will be related to all the Khazars.

Here we have genetic evidence. With somethings we have archeological and historical evidence regarding biblical events, etc. At one time a part of the Khazarian Kingdom DID in fact convert to Judaism, but had little if any effect on Ashkenazim as a whole or their origins.

 

[SamanthaAnastasia]

Sigh.
Unless a “conspiracy theory” is proven correct, it is better to be innocent as doves and wise as serpents.
Don’t jump to conclusions. Just listen. Watch. Wait. Focus on yourself and keep making oil for your lamp. Blow the whistle when and if human rights are being violated because that is a bipartisan issue. For example, human rights violations against any religious groups is wrong because that just means in that society Christians can and will probably be next (think China and the Uyghurs)

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Yet it is very popular to deny that any conspiracy theory is legit

(Unless you work for the FBI, or CIA, NSA, or ...)

Truth. One of the weakest debate tactics is to plop some Alphabet agency's "official statement" on the counter and say CASE CLOSED. If anything, the Alphabets raise suspicion, not lower them. The Founders, could they return for a surprise audit, would tear the Alphabets limb from limb.

 

[helmut]

You might want to say Judas working with the Sanhedrin...ALL involved were Jews

In addition, it seems the Pharisees were not involved, at least some of them opposed the execution of Jesus.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
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So then:

1. Invisible evil angels controlling/possessing-at-times humans to accomplish evil. 2Cor 4:4, Eph 2:1-5, 1 Peter 5:8, Eph 6:10-13

• 2 Cor 4:4 Satan is "the god of this world"

2. Invisible good angels providing miracles protection and guidance to help save mankind

3. Judas working with the Sanhedrin.to capture Christ
4. Paul being informed about a secret plot to take his life

5. God the Son becomes incarnate, virgin birth, savior of mankind so that a regular looking human turns out to be the God-man saving the world.

6. Christ in heaven as our High Priest "the main point" of Heb 8:1-5
7. The invisible Holy Spirit "convicting the world of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16

what others can you think of?
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Christianity is no stranger to conspiracy theories.

I believe your use of "conspiracy theory " in your listed events from scripture are dangerously misguided. None of your examples are led by covert operators.
Angels are messengers of God,Satan is the well known tempter of the human race, Judas was the man of perdition and the traitor of our Lord, a foiled plot by a cabal, is not a conspiracy, Jesus Christ of Nazareth did not take part in a conspiracy to save the world from sin, His ascension into heaven, where He dwells, is not conspiratorial and the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth, hardly the work of a conspirator. I hope you understand the difference. Be blessed.

 

[helmut]

Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

The usual usage of this terms excludes supernatural forces (this is no CT but rather religion or supernatural world-view), and includes also in the definitions that there is no sufficient reason to suspect a conspiracy, but on the contrary the followers of such a theory take the absence of evidence as evidence how influential the conspirators really are.

In other words: Every proven conspiracy and every action involving demons, angels and the like is per definition no conspiracy theory.

This evidently rules out almost all examples you mention, and many others from the other postings here. The only one one might discuss is #3: A person convinced that the whole Judas'story is fiction might call the theory of a Jewish conspiration against Jesus (opposed to the theory that the Romans acted by own initiative) a conspiration theory. I don't think so, and unless someone here supports such thinking, we can eleminate this point and so empty your list completely.

 

[helmut]

I do want to point out however, because this can be dangerous territory, there are the Jews from Judea, then there are the Kharzar Jews otherwise known as the Ashkenazi who are in fact Canaanites/baal and moloch worshipers

They were pagans. This was interpreted as "baal and moloch worship", but they surely have never heard of ba'l or molok.

They chose Judaism but did not fully convert and still practiced their "devil worshiping"

This may be true, and was probably true for some of them (any percentage would be wild guessing because lack of evidence in any direction).

and have since then blamed everything they had done on the Jews. It is not the Jews, but those who pretend they are (Rothschilds we're looking in your direction).

Even if there was crypto-paganism in the converted Khazars, it is expected that this died out or developed into a kind of "Jewish superstition" (as the crypto-paganism in "Christian" countries in the Middle Ages). AFAIK, there is no evidence that Rothschild and others had any cultural or biological link to the Khasars, or that there was a distinct group of Khazar descendants that did behave as you described.

And another point, some may be a bit bewildered to find that the "protocols of the elders of Zion" is not Jewish but in fact Jesuit, as it is identical to many of their known ancient writings. Just wanted to put that out there because sometimes Conspiracies can verge on the anti-Semitic.

Not every charge against the Jesuits is true. The "Protocols" were forged by a Russian, probably Golowinski (there was a witness who said this), the original language is Russian - if we disregard that lengthy passages were "stolen" from French sources who were not antisemitic (but distorted to arrive at an antisemitic text).

The attribution of the "protocols" to the Jesuits is part of an anti-Jesuit conspiracy theory.

 

[DamianWarS]

Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
=============================================
So then:

1. Invisible evil angels controlling/possessing-at-times humans to accomplish evil. 2Cor 4:4, Eph 2:1-5, 1 Peter 5:8, Eph 6:10-13

• 2 Cor 4:4 Satan is "the god of this world"

2. Invisible good angels providing miracles protection and guidance to help save mankind

3. Judas working with the Sanhedrin.to capture Christ
4. Paul being informed about a secret plot to take his life

5. God the Son becomes incarnate, virgin birth, savior of mankind so that a regular looking human turns out to be the God-man saving the world.

6. Christ in heaven as our High Priest "the main point" of Heb 8:1-5
7. The invisible Holy Spirit "convicting the world of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16

what others can you think of?
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Christianity is no stranger to conspiracy theories.

the bible hangs upon the ramblings of an old man who after 40 days of fasting had a mystic experience on a mountain top and upon coming down he immediately purges thousands of his own people. He then led them into a desert for 40 years where he writes the history books to his own liking as far back as 2500 years and law that foreshadows all things to come all while having secret tent meetings with the creator of all things. He dies in the desert where his captive people are released into foreign lands to commit genocide against innocents all in the name of reclaiming the land because their dead leader in the desert told them God says it's theirs.... oh, and they carry a magical box that holds God in it to win their wars and ordain their slaughtering as they go.

This of course would be a paraphrase of how outsiders view the bible

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

I believe your use of "conspiracy theory " in your listed events from scripture are dangerously misguided.

They are germane to the OP's definition of:

Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

The OP showed no animus towards God (including the Lord Jesus, the Holy Spirt and the elect angels) as if HE was a conspirator in the evil sense.

 

[Kilk1]

Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
=============================================
So then:

1. Invisible evil angels controlling/possessing-at-times humans to accomplish evil. 2Cor 4:4, Eph 2:1-5, 1 Peter 5:8, Eph 6:10-13

• 2 Cor 4:4 Satan is "the god of this world"

2. Invisible good angels providing miracles protection and guidance to help save mankind

3. Judas working with the Sanhedrin.to capture Christ
4. Paul being informed about a secret plot to take his life

5. God the Son becomes incarnate, virgin birth, savior of mankind so that a regular looking human turns out to be the God-man saving the world.

6. Christ in heaven as our High Priest "the main point" of Heb 8:1-5
7. The invisible Holy Spirit "convicting the world of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16

what others can you think of?
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Christianity is no stranger to conspiracy theories.

Interesting point, as the Bible does seem to teach spiritual forces as working "behind the scenes." That said, the Bible isn't always sympathetic to conspiracy theories. For example, Isaiah 8:12-13 (NKJV) says, "Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’ Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy, Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled. The LORD of hosts, Him you shall hallow; Let Him be your fear, And let Him be your dread."

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

This of course would be a paraphrase of how outsiders view the bible

"Outsiders" being defined by Paul as "darkened in their understanding" (Eph. 4:18). This doesn’t stop them from being haughty or contemptuous towards the Truth, they do so blindly.

May the outsiders be given sight by the Lord and become insiders!

 

[DamianWarS]

"Outsiders" being defined by Paul as "darkened in their understanding" (Eph. 4:18). This doesn’t stop them from being haughty or contemptuous towards the Truth, they do so blindly.

May the outsiders be given sight by the Lord and become insiders!

indeed but these early accounts isolated or superimposed over any other religion/myth would be flat out rejected and even laughed at. We do need to understand how suspicious our beginnings actually sound. It is only through Christ that it really makes sense otherwise all you see is the ramblings of a crackpot in the desert.

 

[timothyu]

The Founders, could they return for a surprise audit, would tear the Alphabets limb from limb.

Don't forget the media alphabets who proclaim opinion as truth without evidence. 24/7 false witness.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Don't forget the media alphabets who proclaim opinion as truth without evidence. 24/7 false witness.

They are all working together, for they are Legion.

 

[Carl Emerson]

indeed but these early accounts isolated or superimposed over any other religion/myth would be flat out rejected and even laughed at. We do need to understand how suspicious our beginnings actually sound. It is only through Christ that it really makes sense otherwise all you see is the ramblings of a crackpot in the desert.

You also see quite a lot about the Character of God...

Never forget that many of the the old testament patriarchs came to faith - believing in resurrection without direct knowledge of Messiah Jesus.

 

[nolidad]

Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
=============================================
So then:

1. Invisible evil angels controlling/possessing-at-times humans to accomplish evil. 2Cor 4:4, Eph 2:1-5, 1 Peter 5:8, Eph 6:10-13

• 2 Cor 4:4 Satan is "the god of this world"

2. Invisible good angels providing miracles protection and guidance to help save mankind

3. Judas working with the Sanhedrin.to capture Christ
4. Paul being informed about a secret plot to take his life

5. God the Son becomes incarnate, virgin birth, savior of mankind so that a regular looking human turns out to be the God-man saving the world.

6. Christ in heaven as our High Priest "the main point" of Heb 8:1-5
7. The invisible Holy Spirit "convicting the world of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16

what others can you think of?
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Christianity is no stranger to conspiracy theories.

There are no conspiracy theories in the Bible! they are all written write in plain sight for all the world to see!

 

[BobRyan]

There are no conspiracy theories in the Bible! they are all written write in plain sight for all the world to see!

If you notice in the OP - it is not "the story" that is secret ... that is not what makes it a conspiracy story. It is that the story is about something that is not visible in plain sight... the incarnation is a good example of something that the public could not witness at the time of Christ.

 

[klutedavid]

Conspiracy Theory: a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.
=============================================
So then:

1. Invisible evil angels controlling/possessing-at-times humans to accomplish evil. 2Cor 4:4, Eph 2:1-5, 1 Peter 5:8, Eph 6:10-13

• 2 Cor 4:4 Satan is "the god of this world"

2. Invisible good angels providing miracles protection and guidance to help save mankind

3. Judas working with the Sanhedrin.to capture Christ
4. Paul being informed about a secret plot to take his life

5. God the Son becomes incarnate, virgin birth, savior of mankind so that a regular looking human turns out to be the God-man saving the world.

6. Christ in heaven as our High Priest "the main point" of Heb 8:1-5
7. The invisible Holy Spirit "convicting the world of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16

what others can you think of?
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Christianity is no stranger to conspiracy theories.

I think that conspiracy theories are imbedded all the way through society. Not just in the world of Christianity. The idea of a conspiracy is fundamental to politics.

I believe that every single Christian church has some level of a conspiracy theory, entwined in what the church teaches. Very evident in church eschatology and most profoundly evident, in how the church describes itself. A simple example; our church is the one true church.