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The President and politicians are all just puppets for Satan and demons. The whole Democrats vs Republicans thing is propoganda, two sides of the same coin. Your votes dont count. Everything is decided and chosen long in advance. Satan's people have foreshadowed in media future plans many a time for such things as the 9/11 tower attack and Donald Trump's presidency and the economy in ruin he would leave us with. This was predicted in the Simpsons cartoon. Donald trump even mocked the masses of those that are ignorant and that have no idea what is going on by posting a short clip that featured the part of the Simpsons episode that predicted his presidency!

Try to look at the bigger picture.
 
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The President and politicians are all just puppets for Satan and demons. The whole Democrats vs Republicans thing is propoganda, two sides of the same coin. Your votes dont count. Everything is decided and chosen long in advance. Satan's people have foreshadowed in media future plans many a time for such things as the 9/11 tower attack and Donald Trump's presidency and the economy in ruin he would leave us with. This was predicted in the Simpsons cartoon. Donald trump even mocked the masses of those that are ignorant and that have no idea what is going on by posting a short clip that featured the part of the Simpsons episode that predicted his presidency!

Try to look at the bigger picture.
i seen the trump eps on the simpsons scary like
 
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The President and politicians are all just puppets for Satan and demons.
Can you support this assertion?

The whole Democrats vs Republicans thing is propoganda, two sides of the same coin.
Can you support this assertion? They seem to have very conflicting positions.

Your votes dont count.
Why not? I see votes getting counted every election cycle.

Everything is decided and chosen long in advance.
By who? Support?

Satan's people have foreshadowed in media future plans many a time for such things as the 9/11 tower attack and Donald Trump's presidency and the economy in ruin he would leave us with
Can you support this assertion?
 
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The President and politicians are all just puppets for Satan and demons. The whole Democrats vs Republicans thing is propoganda, two sides of the same coin. Your votes dont count. Everything is decided and chosen long in advance. Satan's people have foreshadowed in media future plans many a time for such things as the 9/11 tower attack and Donald Trump's presidency and the economy in ruin he would leave us with. This was predicted in the Simpsons cartoon. Donald trump even mocked the masses of those that are ignorant and that have no idea what is going on by posting a short clip that featured the part of the Simpsons episode that predicted his presidency!

Try to look at the bigger picture.

Satan offers The Messiah the kingdoms of the world only if Jesus would worship satan.

So is that a true offer by satan (i believe it was) does satan currently (taken from man with the fall of Adam) posses the kingdoms of the earth.

So if these are satan's kingdoms and God gives satan rulers for satan's kingdoms. Why would God give satan a believer(christian) to rule satan's kingdoms.

The nation of Israel was chosen by God to be a light to the pagan satanic kingdoms. Just as the church was to be a light in this age, but that went astray as the church welcomed in more and more pagans with their pagan practices (just as Israel had done).

It can be seen in the New Testament in the early church, it was separated from the pagan kingdoms and protected by God. That is why Paul said to cast out (of the protection of the church) a fellow believer to satan. You are cast out of the church a believer goes back to the world of satan.

So in the age it is seen how the church is filled with fear because the church is out in satan's kingdoms, Examples churches having an american flag in their sanctuary, being involved in politics, participating in secular events, etc...

That is why, what is seen that effects the pagan world (sickness, financial problems, suicides, mental problems, fear, natural disasters, believing lies of governments and science, etc.. ) also are effecting the church.

I watch how many church people ( i do not use just believers, because in the church there are believers and nonbelievers) have put on a mask, just because they were told to by the government. I wonder how many will take the mark of the beast, just because the government says so.
 
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@d taylor I agree with you. Though I dont believe anyone will be able to take the mark without understanding the full extent of their actions. Also I believe the mark is spiritual and not physical.

The mark in the Bible is a physical mark given on the hand or forehead. It also is stated they are forced to take the mark.

Kinda like the mask now in many places i believe people are being forced to wear the mask if they want to shop.
 
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That is why Paul said to cast out (of the protection of the church) a fellow believer to satan. You are cast out of the church a believer goes back to the world of satan.
Do you actually know why Paul told the believers in Corinth to expel the one living in sin?

Kinda like the mask now in many places i believe people are being forced to wear the mask if they want to shop.
I take it you think this is all made up and that people aren’t actually dying and so you’re not wearing a mask or practicing any sort of social distancing?
 
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The mark in the Bible is a physical mark given on the hand or forehead. It also is stated they are forced to take the mark.

Kinda like the mask now in many places i believe people are being forced to wear the mask if they want to shop.

The book of Revelation is full of symbolic language.

" It is utterly unnecessary to take this brand of evil literally, any more than we took the seal of Christ literally. That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner. It surely means the acquiescence in character and action to the principles of this tyrannical world-power: the right hand is the symbol of toil and social intercourse; the forehead is the symbol of character, as time is ever writing its awful tale upon men’s brows. "-Ellicott commentary on Revelation 13:16
 
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The book of Revelation is full of symbolic language.

" It is utterly unnecessary to take this brand of evil literally, any more than we took the seal of Christ literally. That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner. It surely means the acquiescence in character and action to the principles of this tyrannical world-power: the right hand is the symbol of toil and social intercourse; the forehead is the symbol of character, as time is ever writing its awful tale upon men’s brows. "-Ellicott commentary on Revelation 13:16

When the Bible uses symbolic language the Bible will explain what the symbolic language means. The mark of the beast does not fit the category of symbolic language. But if you want to believe that, the mark is a spiritual symbol.

“When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, seek no other sense; therefore, take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning unless the facts of the immediate context, studied in the light of related passages and axiomatic and fundamental truths, indicate clearly otherwise.”
–Dr. David L. Cooper
 
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Do you actually know why Paul told the believers in Corinth to expel the one living in sin?

I take it you think this is all made up and that people aren’t actually dying and so you’re not wearing a mask or practicing any sort of social distancing?

I do know, but really why does it matter what this person did. The point i was making was that believers had protection from God in the early church. That the church existed in satan's kingdoms but was separate and protected. So when a believer was expelled they then became open to attacks from satan's kingdom.

Unlike today's church who is basically in many ways as pagan as the pagans of the world. And is open to attacks, being that the church is now out in and a part of satan's kingdom.
 
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I do know, but really why does it matter what this person did. The point i was making was that believers had protection from God in the early church. That the church existed in satan's kingdoms but was separate and protected. So when a believer was expelled they then became open to attacks from satan's kingdom.

Unlike today's church who is basically in many ways as pagan as the pagans of the world. And is open to attacks, being that the church is now out in and a part of satan's kingdom.
I didn’t ask if you knew what the person did to be cast out, I asked if you knew why Paul had him cast out. What was the point, the hope, the end goal? Please explain.
 
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When the Bible uses symbolic language the Bible will explain what the symbolic language means. The mark of the beast does not fit the category of symbolic language. But if you want to believe that, the mark is a spiritual symbol.

“When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, seek no other sense; therefore, take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning unless the facts of the immediate context, studied in the light of related passages and axiomatic and fundamental truths, indicate clearly otherwise.”
–Dr. David L. Cooper

This is why Scripture says we should not add private interpretation to prophecy. By saying the mark is only symbolic and then adding their own reasons as to why its symbolic without Scriptural reference they privately interpret scripture. The Scriptures state that the beast causes every man to receive a mark and a man is a spiritual and a physical being. Even one of the commentators he mentioned Barnes says its branded onto the body like when sheep gets branded and this could easily be done through RFID digital tattoos.


Barnes' Notes on the Bible

And that no man might buy or sell - That is, this mighty power would claim jurisdiction over the traffic of the world, and endeavor to make it tributary to its own purposes. Compare Revelation 18:11-13, Revelation 18:17-19. This is represented by saying that no one might "buy or sell" except by its permission; and it is clear that where this power exists of determining who may "buy and sell," there is absolute control over the wealth of the world.
Save he that had the mark - To keep it all among its own friends; among those who showed allegiance to this power.

Or the name of the beast - That is, the "mark" referred to was either the name of the beast, or the number of his name. The meaning is, that he had something branded on him that showed that he belonged to the beast - as a slave had the name of his master; in other words, there was something that certainly showed that he was subject to its authority.
 
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The President and politicians are all just puppets for Satan and demons.
Sorry, but there is far more evidence Trump isn't part of the evil establishment than that he's part of it. For starters, why would every power structure oppose him if he were one of them? From CEOs, both political parties, Hollywood, etc has hated him on a unified level that shows they're all connect to each other, but not to him. That's a pretty strong indicator that he isn't in their little club. God appears to have chosen Trump to deliver some much needed justice and stand up for the American republic, founded for christians as a refuge from Cabal led interdenominational wars run by the Vatican (started to kill real believers).

It's easy to forget ancient Israel (not to be confused with the satanic state currently residing there) did in fact have a government, and God used it to show what He expects a nation dedicated to Him to be like. While in the end, all nations (that is peoples) will be under His rule, that rule will come down through other men, just as today's nations are ruled by men under satan. That doesn't mean everyone in them is on team satan and we should all just lie down and surrender to them. It just means we are in a spiritual war.
 
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@d taylor I agree with you. Though I dont believe anyone will be able to take the mark without understanding the full extent of their actions. Also I believe the mark is spiritual and not physical.
If the mark is not the microchip, how do expect them to choose who can buy or sell. Please don't take the microchip. Just ask the Amish, this microchip is the mark of the beast.
 
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