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hey all, not long ago converted to Christianity, weeks back properly. Despite doing this I’m worried I’m going to hell for other reasons. This is going to sound weird ok, from childhood growing up in Islamic background despite my parents being religious I never was and for the majority of my teens I never thought of religion it was only in my late teens when I started watching debate shows bet wen mainly Christianity and Islam that got me thinking about both religions and the afterlife and as I started to learn about both I actually started to dislike both religions due to the fact that they preach that whoever is unbelievable will be condemned to eternal hell. I thought if there is a god which I believe there is it’s unfair for people to burn in hell just because they choose to follow the wrong religion and as I starting to read the descriptive quranic passages about hell for unbelievers I started to dislike religion more. Im a fairly soft hearted person due to other religions which I don’t want to disclose so the thought of punishment for ANYBODY scare me. That’s where Christianity comes in, I wanted to as I learnt what both preached to allow my mind to break free of the constant religious thoughts that were in my mind. All I could think about daily for weeks was about hell, Islam, god the bible, Jesus etc. during this period I had repeated blasphemous thoughts about religion and I’m not sure if I blasphemed the Holy Spirit. I’m not sure what else I can say. Even though I’ve never been a person who prays to god ov r my whole life I’ve always believed in my heart of hearts that there is a god I just being faithless in myself also allowed this to take my away from seeking god. During that period and now I’ve never wanted those thoughts (blasphemous ones) to be in my head. It was just at that time for weeks all I would do was watch debates and read the scriptures and I just decided to turn away from anyreligious thoughts unfortunately what I thought of was out of my control I believe.

Due to this I feel like there is no point me praying anymore I’ve been fighting there thoughts for weeks and they’ve always been in my mind. I’m not sure what else I can say. I’m also not sure what response I’ll get from fellow
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As for the Islamic and Christian teachings about Hell for non-Muslims and non-Christians, yes, this bothers many of us that do not always interpret the Bible as literally as many of our Christian friends. Having said that, I do not discount the possibility of Hell and eternal punishment. I would point out that Judaism does not proclaim that all non-Jews are lost. Rather, it teaches that all who abide by the Noahide laws will have a place in Heaven. I would also highlight that the Catholic Church is not nearly as strict in it's salvation teaching today as it was for many centuries. It now teaches that any non-Catholic as a chance of salvation, based upon the doctrine of "invincible ignorance". This theoretically includes non-Christians and even potentially atheists and agnostics. (Note, I am not a Jew or a Catholic, but still feel it important to mention their views.)

As for your personal concerns, I would encourage you to trust in the mercy of God. It seems to me that anyone who is concerned about his/her salvation as much as you are, is probably more likely to be saved and going to Heaven than one who is absolutely certain that he/she is saved and is going to Heaven.
 
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t’s unfair for people to burn in hell just because they choose to follow the wrong religion
jesus is very clear about those who are saved and about those who are not and why.
John ch 3 verse 16-18 says that those who believe in him shall not perish, but have eternal life, while those who do not believe in him are already condemned.

You question whether God is fair in making a choice like this.

Think for a moment.

God created us all, everything say that there is a creator, we all know that nothing makes nothing.
So how else should God treat those who by not believing in him or by not obeying him show there total rejection of him and his standards.
 
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Lets get Islam off the table first. To that point, christianity is the only faith that has a living savior in the person of Jesus Christ.. You need that living savior to avoid hell and to get Him you have to believe in your heart that He was and is God made manifest on earth, He died for our sins and yours personally, was buried and rose again. That is the saving belief in Jesus Christ. Believing that offer which comes by way of the Holy Spirit through hearing the Word of God from someone or reading it. Rejecting the offer of this gospel message fully and completely is what the term blaspheming the Holy Spirit is. The Spirit wants to enter your heart and make you new in Christ, by rejecting Jesus he can't do that.

Jesus basically condemned the pharisees for not believing that Jesus was who He stated to be, they rejected Him from the heart level and had no intention of changing but rather plotted to kill Him..
 
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All I could think about daily for weeks was about hell, Islam, god the bible, Jesus etc. during this period I had repeated blasphemous thoughts about religion and I’m not sure if I blasphemed the Holy Spirit. I’m not sure what else I can say. Even though I’ve never been a person who prays to god ov r my whole life I’ve always believed in my heart of hearts that there is a god I just being faithless in myself also allowed this to take my away from seeking god. During that period and now I’ve never wanted those thoughts (blasphemous ones) to be in my head. It was just at that time for weeks all I would do was watch debates and read the scriptures and I just decided to turn away from anyreligious thoughts unfortunately what I thought of was out of my control I believe.

Due to this I feel like there is no point me praying anymore I’ve been fighting there thoughts for weeks and they’ve always been in my mind. I’m not sure what else I can say. I’m also not sure what response I’ll get from fellow
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Thanks for listening

What you describe about blasphemous thoughts is actually really common, I've heard many people describe having these thoughts and being really worried about them. It sounds like you really don't mean to have these thoughts and you've been trying really hard to fight them. So these blasphemous thoughts aren't what you really believe.

I think you probably don't need to worry nearly as much as you do. You should try googling "religious OCD", you can find stories about people who have been through the same thing and how they managed to overcome it.
 
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jesus is very clear about those who are saved and about those who are not and why.
John ch 3 verse 16-18 says that those who believe in him shall not perish, but have eternal life, while those who do not believe in him are already condemned.

You question whether God is fair in making a choice like this.

Think for a moment.

God created us all, everything say that there is a creator, we all know that nothing makes nothing.
So how else should God treat those who by not believing in him or by not obeying him show there total rejection of him and his standards.



jesus is very clear about those who are saved and about those who are not and why.
John ch 3 verse 16-18 says that those who believe in him shall not perish, but have eternal life, while those who do not believe in him are already condemned.

You question whether God is fair in making a choice like this.

Think for a moment.

God created us all, everything say that there is a creator, we all know that nothing makes nothing.
So how else should God treat those who by not believing in him or by not obeying him show there total rejection of him and his standards.


You misunderstood my point. My whole reason for rejecting religion especially Islam and Christianity is that it places an unfair amount of stress on a person to choose the right one so they’re not condemned to hell. You mention god and his standards which is fine and true, but my whole point is how can a person know they’ve picked the right belief system?
 
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hey all, not long ago converted to Christianity, weeks back properly. Despite doing this I’m worried I’m going to hell for other reasons. This is going to sound weird ok, from childhood growing up in Islamic background despite my parents being religious I never was and for the majority of my teens I never thought of religion it was only in my late teens when I started watching debate shows bet wen mainly Christianity and Islam that got me thinking about both religions and the afterlife and as I started to learn about both I actually started to dislike both religions due to the fact that they preach that whoever is unbelievable will be condemned to eternal hell. I thought if there is a god which I believe there is it’s unfair for people to burn in hell just because they choose to follow the wrong religion and as I starting to read the descriptive quranic passages about hell for unbelievers I started to dislike religion more. Im a fairly soft hearted person due to other religions which I don’t want to disclose so the thought of punishment for ANYBODY scare me. That’s where Christianity comes in, I wanted to as I learnt what both preached to allow my mind to break free of the constant religious thoughts that were in my mind. All I could think about daily for weeks was about hell, Islam, god the bible, Jesus etc. during this period I had repeated blasphemous thoughts about religion and I’m not sure if I blasphemed the Holy Spirit. I’m not sure what else I can say. Even though I’ve never been a person who prays to god ov r my whole life I’ve always believed in my heart of hearts that there is a god I just being faithless in myself also allowed this to take my away from seeking god. During that period and now I’ve never wanted those thoughts (blasphemous ones) to be in my head. It was just at that time for weeks all I would do was watch debates and read the scriptures and I just decided to turn away from anyreligious thoughts unfortunately what I thought of was out of my control I believe.

Due to this I feel like there is no point me praying anymore I’ve been fighting there thoughts for weeks and they’ve always been in my mind. I’m not sure what else I can say. I’m also not sure what response I’ll get from fellow
Members

Thanks for listening

The blasphemous thoughts you are having is not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. See Is there an unpardonable sin, what is blasphemy of the holy spirit. . You don't want the thoughts for a start, so they are probably just being injected into your mind by Satan. Any thought that is against your will does not originate with you.
 
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The blasphemous thoughts you are having is not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. See Is there an unpardonable sin, what is blasphemy of the holy spirit. . You don't want the thoughts for a start, so they are probably just being injected into your mind by Satan. Any thought that is against your will does not originate with you.


I was getting evil thoughts of everything the Holy Spirit included I’m sure. Before this once I made the decision not to believe in any of what the scriptures teach all I wanted to do was forget what I learnt and move pass and not have any thoughts about religion at all. At the time I was young 18 or so, the threat of hell wouldn’t go out of my mind. So all this stuff wouldn’t go.
 
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I was getting evil thoughts of everything the Holy Spirit included I’m sure. Before this once I made the decision not to believe in any of what the scriptures teach all I wanted to do was forget what I learnt and move pass and not have any thoughts about religion at all. At the time I was young 18 or so, the threat of hell wouldn’t go out of my mind. So all this stuff wouldn’t go.

Ok. Well hell is a real place. I know of people (who I have communicated with) who said when they had Near Death Experiences, they saw or felt hell. It is wise to listen to that inner feeling that hell is real, and dedicate yourself to God fully.

God is good, he shows us great mercy, but the reality of hell should drive us away from sin.
 
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You misunderstood my point. My whole reason for rejecting religion especially Islam and Christianity is that it places an unfair amount of stress on a person to choose the right one so they’re not condemned to hell. You mention god and his standards which is fine and true, but my whole point is how can a person know they’ve picked the right belief system?
Very simple, Jesus said that he is the Truth, the way and the Life so one checks that out.
Christianity has a major difference between it and All other religeons/beliefs, in CChristianity God give salvation to those who ask for it, all other beliefs one has to earn the right to gat a reward.
 
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You misunderstood my point. My whole reason for rejecting religion especially Islam and Christianity is that it places an unfair amount of stress on a person to choose the right one so they’re not condemned to hell. You mention god and his standards which is fine and true, but my whole point is how can a person know they’ve picked the right belief system?

Because so many of the prophecies in the Bible that have been fulfilled.
 
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Hello friend,

Please be at ease. God is not a God of terror, but peace; and not a God of confusion, but of understanding. The Lord sees your situation, and has compassion on you. If we as human beings can have compassion and understand difficulties people go through, how much more God Himself?

Those who truly blaspheme the Holy Spirit would not care at all about God, they would not have the thoughts you have about doing the right thing, hell or heaven, nor would they go through the anguish of spirit that you are going through. Those who truly blaspheme do not seek God, neither is there repentance on their minds. You are not simply the thoughts that come and go through your head, neither are you some misinformed decision you've made in your past, you know this, and better yet God who is loving and compassionate beyond understanding knows this.

ANY thing that tries to stop you from praying, breaks your courage and gives you hopelessness is from the evil one. This is really important: Any thought, feeling, idea or event that tries to pull you away from God, is not of God.

See, what the Lord wants is a relationship. Redemption and Heaven is not about saying "I belong to this religion" with your mouth, not at all. Your salvation doesn't depend upon "picking the right religion" with your own strength and your own human wisdom. If this was the case then you would be earning your own salvation, and not the mercy of God, given to us by Lord Jesus' sacrifice on the cross. The Lord says:

[Jeremiah 29:11-13]: For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.
Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you.
And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.

[Matthew 7:7-11]: “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone?
Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent?
I
f you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

God is not putting pressure upon us saying "you better have picked the right religion", all He wants is our love and our effort of heart towards Him. He wants us to have faith that He is good. He wants us to have faith that He can help us through all the confusion of earth, and that He hears our prayers. He wants us to have faith that He sees the efforts you make and the anguish you go through, and that He is willing to help. He sees the good intentions that you have at the core of your heart. He wants you to trust Him, come boldly before Him and consult everything with Him.

God who is the source of all love, holy wisdom and compassion is not looking down upon you with apathy or anger; but He died for you when you were in your darkest hour. He didn't just say "I love you" but He demonstrated it by becoming a human like us, went through every single trial and temptation that is common to man, was blasphemed, spat upon, beaten with hands, His flesh mangled by sharp scourges, head pierced by thorns, hands and feet pierced by nails, ridiculed and mocked all the way and yet He said to all of them: "
Father forgive them, because they know not what they do".

So, God who wishes forgiveness upon the people that did all these things and knows and understands that it's because they don't fully understand what they are doing, do you think He understands your situation as well? Do you think He wants to forgive all of your sins also?

[Romans 5:8]: "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

[Matthew 11:28-30]: "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

[Hebrews 4:14-16]: "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need."

Yes, Jesus is the Truth, the Way, and the Life and there is no other way to the Father except for the Son, Jesus Christ. But then, is salvation a matter of "declaring the right name" or "picking the right religion"? The Lord says:

[Matthew 7:21]: “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

[John 6:29]: "Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

[Matthew 37-40]: "Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”


There are those who call themselves as Christians and live as enemies of Christ without any desire to repent or grief over their sins. There are those who claim to believe in Jesus yet have no relationship with Him, do not desire to know Him, love their sins more than Him and do not want to change their situation despite the many opportunities pleas God presents.

So knowing God isn't about "head knowledge", not everyone who calls Jesus "Lord, Lord" will enter Heaven. And there are those who do follow His Holy Spirit without knowing Him by name. God gives everybody multiple chances, many opportunities, down to the last hours of their death to make the right decision and hold onto His hand that He is extending.

If we have a little bit of understanding of what justice is, with our limited knowledge, limited sight, fallible nature and small perspective, you better believe God who is infinite and unlimited is more just than us. And not only is He just in judgement, but the Scripture says "
His mercy overcomes judgement".

[Matthew 9:11-13]: "And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to His disciples, “Why does your Teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
When Jesus heard that, He said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.
But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

[Ezekiel 18:23]: "Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord GOD, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?"
[Ezekiel 18:32]: "For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies,” says the Lord GOD. “Therefore turn and live!”

[2 Peter 3:9] "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance."

[1 Timothy 2:3-4]: "...For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[John 10:16]: "And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd."


My good man, now that you are after the Truth, you cannot afford to be lax in knowing the Truth. Because if you do not a have a relationship with Him and only know the truth in part, then the devil has many means to trick you into hopelessness, weakness, sinning and all evil. Only if you truly know Jesus and feed your spirit with His Words and His Holy Spirit can you stand against the lies that are coming at you on this earth. Read the New Testament, spend time speaking to the Lord and trust in Him.

We are in a spiritual fight, and our fight is "the good fight of faith", and in this only truth matters. So know the Truth, fight the good fight of faith which means believing and not discarding your faith depending upon situations, bad days, questions and events, but trusting the Lord and bringing all your troubles to Him; finding your consolation and joy from Him who is eternal, rather than seeking it in the darkness of this world which passes away, and passes quickly.

In short, God loves you. Don't get tricked in to staying away from Him. He waits to communicate with you every day, so sit down today and talk to Him, pour out your heart before Him .


[Psalms 62:8]: "Trust in him at all times, O people; pour out your heart before him; God is a refuge for us."

[John 8:32]: "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
 
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Jesus is the truth, the way, the life, the only way to our heavenly Father. All of your thoughts, all of your sins Christ has taken to the cross. We can never be good enough, pure enough, righteous enough, Jesus has done all for us. God is glorified in the mercy He has shown us. Trust in Christ, not in yourself or man.

The Holy Spirit witnesses to our spirit, that Christ is Lord, He is the truth. When one rejects this truth, he blashemes the Holy Spirit. It is man's unbelieve that condemns him. Other religions teach that man can be like God, Christianity teaches that God alone is good, it's His grace through faith in Christ that saves us.

In Christ
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