Orthodoxy in my language...

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Hz. Isa'nin Ozellikleri nelerdir? - UZMAN TV

I would really love to contact him and ask if they have prayers and the Divine Liturgy in Turkish. I sense though, by his addressing to the inquirer, he is speaking to a muslim and he is very careful, but it is so hard to explain some concepts in Turkish, like the Trinity. He is having hard time.
 
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Hz. Isa'nin Ozellikleri nelerdir? - UZMAN TV

I would really love to contact him and ask if they have prayers and the Divine Liturgy in Turkish. I sense though, by his addressing to the inquirer, he is speaking to a muslim and he is very careful, but it is so hard to explain some concepts in Turkish, like the Trinity. He is having hard time.

Cool, I only understand a few words of Turkish via Cypriot, but I wish I knew more. Unfortunately, I doubt they have prayers or Liturgy in Turkish. Turkish culture has never been particularly permeable or friendly to Christianity in general, so it probably doesn't have the words to express Christian ideas as you mention. The Christians are also unlikely to adopt it as a langauge for worship, since it usually connotes oppression and domination. That's probably why the Orthodox in Turkey still use Greeks, the Armenians in Turkey still use Armenians, the Syrians in Turkey use Syriac, etc. It's also pretty dangerous to proselytize so any effort to use Turkish liturgically will likely be seen as an effort to bring Turkish people to church, and that's pretty dangerous.
 
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Cool, I only understand a few words of Turkish via Cypriot, but I wish I knew more. Unfortunately, I doubt they have prayers or Liturgy in Turkish. Turkish culture has never been particularly permeable or friendly to Christianity in general, so it probably doesn't have the words to express Christian ideas as you mention. The Christians are also unlikely to adopt it as a langauge for worship, since it usually connotes oppression and domination. That's probably why the Orthodox in Turkey still use Greeks, the Armenians in Turkey still use Armenians, the Syrians in Turkey use Syriac, etc. It's also pretty dangerous to proselytize so any effort to use Turkish liturgically will likely be seen as an effort to bring Turkish people to church, and that's pretty dangerous.

Now that last point just hit the nail, I see, you are right. Interestingly, I met "my first" other Turkish Orthodox a few weeks ago after a liturgy down in our mission church. She was from the province of Antioch, and she was raised as an Orthodox. Fluent ARABIC! Wow... She can't write or read that well she said, but she speaks and understands. Told me about their Paschal celebrations in Turkey.

The speaker in the video turns out to be the spokesperson for the Ecumenical Patriarchate. It is his job what he is doing. I am a convert so it is exciting, I would want to sit down and talk with him.

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It says "Turk Ortodoks" meaning Turkish Orthodox... Now understand, I am longing for this, for them to be everywhere. Or how different would have been if they stayed around everywhere...
 
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Bushmaster,
Some time ago I found a site presenting Rum Ortodoks Kisilesi or something like , presenting themselves like break-away Turkish Osthodox Community, stating that they are native Turks, but didi ot want to be under the Ecumenical Patriarchate.... Or maybe something like Greek catholic ? Do not remeber exactly teh affiliation, however, they Orthodox background was clear.
Maybe ther you could fing more liturgical texts in Turkish...
 
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