Zechariah 1: four carpenters, four horns, four horsemen

Noooooo.....

Four horses/horsemen = God's "four dreadful judgments".

Rev 6
Zech 6
Ezek 14:21
Zech 1

gjpogiatzis said:

I agree that those passages are all on the same subjects, but also keep in mind that the four horsemen are the evil "four angels" of Revelation 9 who are governed by Satan called "The Destroyer" & "Abaddon." (Rev. 9:11) That is why concerning the fourth horseman "Death" who is followed by "Hades" (Rev. 6), the Bible says "Death & Hades were thrown into the lake of fire." (Rev. 20) So are they connected with the four horns, which are also evil and echo the four evil beasts of Daniel 7?

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Why would you say that? There's no reason to think that the four horsemen who are sent out by Jesus from the throne of God are the four bound angels of Rev 9.

Satan is not the Destroying angel. Satan is the star that falls that is given a key to the abyss and releases the destroying angel who is bound there.

four horsemen, four angels, four horns, four beasts....the only connection is the number four. That doesn't mean that they are all the same thing!

gjpogiatzis said:

don't assume there's "no reason" when you haven't heard another person's reasons for thinking something, friend.

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I'm listening...

Another connection between the "four angels" & the "four horsemen" is that the former "kill a third of the Earth" (Rev. 9:18) while the horsemen "kill over the fourth of the Earth" (Rev. 6:8)

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how is that a connection?

gjpogiatzis said:

33% is more than 25%

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The four horsemen are sent by God. They are even mentioned in Matt 24.

Mat 24:6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.


Mat 24:7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.

Mat 24:8All these are the beginning of birth pains


Mat 24:14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.


Apparently the devil will kill 1/3 of the earth's population during his reign.
That's about 2 billion people.

The angels that are bound are actually angels that are bound. Peter and Jude mention the "chains of darkness" that angels are bound in. Enoch 1 tells an interesting story as well.
The beast who once was, now is not, yet will be and who comes up out of the abyss and will go to his destruction is apparently a fallen angel who was bound in the time of Nimrod...Appollyon/Abaddon, the destroyer. That is one person's educated opinion who recently posted it. It is mentioned so often in Revelation, it's almost like we should know who it is....especially since everything in Revelation has an OT corresponding passage. So, something may have been removed from our canon of scripture that is supposed to be there.

Zechariah 1 could have been fulfilled back in the time of the prophet
Zechariah, around the 6th century BC.

The four carpenters (Zechariah 1:20) could have been, for example,
four Israelites who helped to build Israel back up again after its
Babylonian Captivity. They could be, for example, Zerubbabel
(Zechariah 4:9), Joshua the son of Josedech (Zechariah 6:11), Ezra
(Ezra 7:25), and Nehemiah (Nehemiah 8:9).

The four horns (Zechariah 1:18) could have been, for example, four
kings of Babylon during Israel's Babylonian Captivity. They could be,
for example, Nebuchadnezzar (Ezra 2:1), Evilmerodach (Jeremiah
52:31), Nabonidus, and Belshazzar (Daniel 7:1).

The man riding the red horse (Zechariah 1:8a), and the other,
unnumbered horses (Zechariah 1:8b), like the four chariots seen later
(Zechariah 6:1-3), could have been spirits sent forth from God
(Zechariah 1:10, cf. 6:5-7) back in the time of the prophet Zechariah
(Zechariah 1:11, cf. 6:8).

It is fun to consider what scriptural types might mean.

But we need to keep in mind that whenever we apply our intellects to the word of God, we inject a possibility of error.

All interpretations of scripture are only opinions.