My theology

[soldier of light]

In Matthew 18, Jesus does not explicitly command fellowship, but He emphasizes the importance of unity, accountability, and community within the body of believers. Specifically:

• Matthew 18:20 (KJV): "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
  This verse highlights the significance of believers coming together in His name, implying the importance of fellowship.
• Matthew 18:15-17 (KJV):
  "Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican."

These verses imply the necessity of being in a community where accountability and reconciliation can occur. Although not an explicit command, fellowship is crucial and further encouraged in Hebrews 10:24-25 (KJV):
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."


Trust me when I say your walk with Christ will be much harder without fellowship and community. Trust me if you have anxiety like I do and my anxiety is terrible then you're going to feel as though you're taking on an entire army all by yourself and lack of fellowship will affect your progress and walk. If the Lord says to do it there is a reason why! My ancient disappears when I get into church twice a week and I feel renewed when I leave.

Satan is going to use your social anxiety against you and decieve you into feeling you don't need to go to church or get fellowship and you're going to have a lot of days overthinking and overwhelmed without brothers in church you can turn to when you need help.

Youre in a dangerous place standing on a battlefield surrounded without others to strengthen you and help you.

Trust me when I say this because I am a loner, and suffer from anxiety badly and have since a child but when I got back into church and started developing relationships so much changes for me and it is essential for our growth. Even if Christ didn't command it, He did say to do it for a good reason and that should be taken with the same priority.

I have people online that I gather with. And Jesus is always with me. Are you suggesting that Jesus is only present in a gathering?

 

[Longing to kneel]

I have people online that I gather with. And Jesus is always with me. Are you suggesting that Jesus is only present in a gathering?

How would you possibly have assumed that I was implying that Jesus would only be available in gatherings? Overthinking is a result of anxiety I understand. Read some commentarys about this topic.

 

[soldier of light]

How would you possibly have assumed that I was implying that Jesus would only be available in gatherings? Overthinking is a result of anxiety I understand. Read some commentarys about this topic.

Lol

 

[BNR32FAN]

Jesus' commands in Matthew 18 can't be followed alone. Have you tried visiting a church?

What commandment in Matthew 18 are you referring to?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Sure,
"Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican."

Taking one or two witnesses with you is mutually exclusive with being alone. Then, further, grievances are to be taken to the Church, which necessarily implies membership in a church.

"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

Again, we see the importance of fellowship in our faith. We are told elsewhere not to neglect gathering together, and to be one body, undivided. The plan of Christianity laid out in the New Testament (and really the Old too) is one of corporate worship.

Here he is having fellowship with the church right here on CF.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I'm not an island. I have Jesus. God can do whatever he pleases. It pleased him to guide me and save me.

If we actually followed Christ as our example as Sabbathblessings says we’d all be keeping every single commandment that was given in the Mosaic law like circumcision and all the feasts and sabbaths. We’re no longer under the Mosaic law which is why those things were abolished in the New Covenant.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Jesus wants us in fellowship with each other. Why He choose 12 disciples, they always went off in two's . We are called to be followers of Christ. What did Jesus do, how did He live?

He followed the entire Mosaic law, He was circumcised, He kept all of the ceremonial feasts that were commanded by God that we are specifically told that we are no longer obligated to keep.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

He followed the entire Mosaic law, He was circumcised, He kept all of the ceremonial feasts that were commanded by God that we are specifically told that we are no longer obligated to keep.

We have been though this too many times, if you wish to ignore John 15:4-6, 10, 1 John 2:6 Mat 15:3-14 etc that can be up to you. Not a path we are told to take or one I am comfortable with but wish you well with that.

 

[soldier of light]

We have been though this too many times, if you wish to ignore John 15-4-6, 10, 1 John 2:6 Mat 15:3-14 etc that can be up to you. Not a path we are told to take or one I am comfortable with but wish you well with that.

Romans chapter 14 my friend

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Romans chapter my friend

Romans is a big chapter and has to be reconciled with chapter 6 and chapter 8. Sadly many misuse Paul's teachings 2 Peter 3:15-16 and pit them against what Jesus taught and how He lived. I am sure Paul would be mortified what people have done to his writings. All gets sorted out soon enough.

 

[soldier of light]

Romans is a big chapter and sadly many misuse Paul's teachings and pit them against what Jesus taught and how He lived. I am sure Paul would be mortified what people have done to what he taught.

I dont misuse it. Jesus doesn't teach us to rest on Sabbath but to do good on Sabbath. That is us resting from our work and doing God's work instead. We do this every day, not just once a week. We rest from all evil daily. That's what I see. It's my opinion

 

[BNR32FAN]

We have been though this too many times, if you wish to ignore John 15:4-6, 10, 1 John 2:6 Mat 15:3-14 etc that can be up to you. Not a path we are told to take or one I am comfortable with but wish you well with that.

I’m not ignoring any of those passages but just answer me this, are we still obligated to be circumcised like Christ was? Are we still obligated to observe the ceremonial feasts like Christ was?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I’m not ignoring any of those passages but just answer me this, are we still obligated to be circumcised like Christ was? Are we still obligated to observe the ceremonial feasts like Christ was?

Circumcision was always about the heart Romans 2:25-29 and was discussed to death like 1 Cor 7:19 but if I was a male or had a male child, I would definitely get them physical circumcised, there are many health benefits to it.

There is no scripture that says we can disobey any of God's commandments. If you think we can, I will leave that between you and God. I know where you stand, you know where I stand, and I am not changing my position anytime soon. God blessed, man cannot reverse. Num 23:20 and there is no thus saith the Lord we can profane God's Sabbath, doing this never worked out well for anyone in scriptures, but we are free to test anything we want.

Take care

 

[BNR32FAN]

Romans is a big chapter and has to be reconciled with chapter 6 and chapter 8. Sadly many misuse Paul's teachings 2 Peter 3:15-16 and pit them against what Jesus taught and how He lived. I am sure Paul would be mortified what people have done to his writings. All gets sorted out soon enough.

Both Romans 14 and Colossians 2:16 are clear as day to those who are willing to accept them. Christ was obligated to be circumcised on the 8th day and to observe the ceremonial feasts in order to keep the Mosaic law. Are we obligated to do the same?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Circumcision was always about the heart Romans 2:25-29 and was discussed to death like 1 Cor 7:19 but if I was a male or had a male child, I would definitely get them physical circumcised, there are many health benefits to it.

There is no scripture that says we can disobey any of God's commandments. If you think we can, I will leave that between you and God. I know where you stand, you know where I stand, and I am not changing my position anytime soon. God blessed, man cannot reverse. Num 23:20 and there is no thus saith the Lord we can profane God's Sabbath, doing this never worked out well for anyone in scriptures, but we are free to test anything we want.

Take care

Oh so then how do we circumcise a newborn boy’s heart on the eighth day after they’re born as commanded in Leviticus 12? And why aren’t girls commanded to be circumcised as well?

“Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the sons of Israel, saying: ‘When a woman gives birth and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean for seven days, as in the days of her menstruation she shall be unclean. On the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. Then she shall remain in the blood of her purification for thirty-three days; she shall not touch any consecrated thing, nor enter the sanctuary until the days of her purification are completed.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭12‬:‭1‬-‭4‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Both Romans 14 and Colossians 2:16 are clear as day to those who are willing to accept them. Christ was obligated to be circumcised on the 8th day and to observe the ceremonial feasts in order to keep the Mosaic law. Are we obligated to do the same?

When you can find the verse than the Sabbath commandment was handwritten and not finger written and contrary and against instead of blessed and holy thus saith the Lord let me know. Basically this teaching is that after God created man in His image He made the Sabbath to be against man. This is really an attack on God's character.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Oh so then how do we circumcise a newborn boy’s heart on the eighth day after they’re born as commanded in Leviticus 12? And why aren’t girls commanded to be circumcised as well?

“Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the sons of Israel, saying: ‘When a woman gives birth and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean for seven days, as in the days of her menstruation she shall be unclean. On the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. Then she shall remain in the blood of her purification for thirty-three days; she shall not touch any consecrated thing, nor enter the sanctuary until the days of her purification are completed.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭12‬:‭1‬-‭4‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

The physical aspect was discussed to death in the NT and it was never about cutting the skin from ones penis to be saved which is what Paul corrected over and over again. Such as Acts 15:1 Gal 2:3 1 Cor 7:19 etc etc.

You are trying to get me to discuss things we have many times, my stance will not change. When you find one verse where Jesus taught we don't have to keep the Sabbath commandment let me know, God made the Sabbath holy and blessed, man cannot reverse. All the thus saith the Lords tell us to keep God's commandments, so thats where my faith lies. Guess we will have to agree to disagree. Take care

 

[soldier of light]

When you can find the verse than the Sabbath commandment was handwritten and not finger written and contrary and against instead of blessed and holy thus saith the Lord let me know. Basically this teaching is that after God created man in His image He made the Sabbath to be against man. This is really an attack on God's character.

Why do people say that the 10 commandments are ultra important because God wrote them himself? Jesus said the greatest commandments are love. The ten commandments are too basic. I prefer what the new testament teaches us. It teaches love, faith, hope, righteousness, holiness, godliness. It's surely the advanced class. I'm not criticizing them I just don't understand the fascination.

 

[soldier of light]

The physical aspect was discussed to death in the NT and it was never about cutting the skin from ones penis to be saved which is what Paul corrected over and over again. Such as Acts 15:1 Gal 2:3 1 Cor 7:19 etc etc.

You are trying to get me to discuss things we have many times, my stance will not change. When you find one verse where Jesus taught we don't have to keep the Sabbath commandment let me know, God made the Sabbath holy and blessed, man cannot reverse. All the thus saith the Lords tell us to keep God's commandments, so thats where my faith lies. Guess we will have to agree to disagree. Take care

What Sabbath commandments do I need to obey? Let's discuss them. I'm interested.

 

[BNR32FAN]

When you can find the verse than the Sabbath commandment was handwritten and not finger written and contrary and against instead of blessed and holy thus saith the Lord let me know. Basically this teaching is that after God created man in His image He made the Sabbath to be against man. This is really an attack on God's character.

Then you disagree with Paul in 2 Corinthians 3 that the law written on stones tablets brought death?

“You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3‬:‭2‬-‭9‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬