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Paul said that in the last days people will no longer endure sound doctrine. He didn't say some people but people in general. They would flock to teachers that comfort them. He also said that after he died that savage wolves would come in and devoir the church.
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Here is a website with sound teaching - Grace Evangelical Society

They have many written, podcast and video teachings
 
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So tell me how does a person become a born again child of God.
By God's power. I believe that when you love God and people then you have been born again. I think John said that. Ill go find the scripture and post it. That's why I like simplicity in Christ and not politicians
 
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So tell me how does a person become a born again child of God.
1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
 
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By God's power. I believe that when you love God and people then you have been born again. I think John said that. Ill go find the scripture and post it. That's why I like simplicity in Christ and not politicians
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Nope, your simplicity has missed God's simplicity. To receive God's free gift of Eternal Life salvation and become a born again child of God. The only way, is to believe in Jesus.

What does believe in Jesus mean? To believe Jesus and who He says He is, The Son of God/The Messiah, the resurrection and the life.

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”
 
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1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
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That verse is written to believers and not to unbelievers telling them how to be born again.
 
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Nope, your simplicity has missed God's simplicity. To receive God's free gift of Eternal Life salvation and become a born again child of God. The only way, is to believe in Jesus.

What does believe in Jesus mean? To believe Jesus and who He says He is, The Son of God/The Messiah, the resurrection and the life.

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”
So, we save ourselves by our own power? Are you sure that your church has taught you correctly?
 
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And i knew that. Let me quote James. The demons believe in Jesus and tremble.
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Eternal Life salvation, becoming a born again child of God was never offered to demons. Only to the seed of Adam (humans)
 
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Eternal Life salvation, becoming a born again child of God was never offered to demons. Only to the seed of Adam (humans)
What I meant was to show me your faith without works and I'll show you mine by them.
 
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You're confused if you think that we are saved by our power. The cross is meaningless in such a scenario
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Need another verse

Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”
Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
 
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Need another verse

Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”
Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
We labor but it's not our labor that saves us. That is done on the cross by Christ alone.
 
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Need another verse

Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”
Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Let's please not turn this into a debate. You believe that you save yourself and I believe Jesus does. Let's agree to disagree
 
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Let's please not turn this into a debate. You believe that you save yourself and I believe Jesus does. Let's agree to disagree
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Who is debating, i am just posting Bible verses about receiving God's free gift of Eternal Life by belief in Jesus. Talkabout simple and clear.

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.




 
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Who is debating, i am just posting Bible verses about receiving God's free gift of Eternal Life by belief in Jesus. Talkabout simple and clear.

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.




Ok. Sounds great
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Who is debating, i am just posting Bible verses about receiving God's free gift of Eternal Life by belief in Jesus. Talkabout simple and clear.

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.




Ok. Sounds great
 
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Would you care to prove that assertion? Please use Scripture. Thank you my friend.
In Matthew 18, Jesus does not explicitly command fellowship, but He emphasizes the importance of unity, accountability, and community within the body of believers. Specifically:

  • Matthew 18:20 (KJV): "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
    This verse highlights the significance of believers coming together in His name, implying the importance of fellowship.
  • Matthew 18:15-17 (KJV):
    "Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican."
These verses imply the necessity of being in a community where accountability and reconciliation can occur. Although not an explicit command, fellowship is crucial and further encouraged in Hebrews 10:24-25 (KJV):
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."


Trust me when I say your walk with Christ will be much harder without fellowship and community. Trust me if you have anxiety like I do and my anxiety is terrible then you're going to feel as though you're taking on an entire army all by yourself and lack of fellowship will affect your progress and walk. If the Lord says to do it there is a reason why! My ancient disappears when I get into church twice a week and I feel renewed when I leave.

Satan is going to use your social anxiety against you and decieve you into feeling you don't need to go to church or get fellowship and you're going to have a lot of days overthinking and overwhelmed without brothers in church you can turn to when you need help.

Youre in a dangerous place standing on a battlefield surrounded without others to strengthen you and help you.

Trust me when I say this because I am a loner, and suffer from anxiety badly and have since a child but when I got back into church and started developing relationships so much changes for me and it is essential for our growth. Even if Christ didn't command it, He did say to do it for a good reason and that should be taken with the same priority.
 
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