Kamala’s Response to “Jesus is Lord

[mourningdove~]

It may not be intention on the part of many.

Just deceived by a distorted understanding of the Gospel, an understanding that supports "me first, us first". and a guy who validates our lowest nature.

Of course it isn't the intention.

I personally try not to falsely accuse, or judge, whole swaths of people based on those that claim to represent them, or misleadng things heard in the media or seen on the internet.

Far above politics, is the fact that many of us here are actuallly sisters and brothers in Christ.
I try to remember that when posting.

 

[Hazelelponi]

I do not support Harris either. But if I did, I would not dress it up with Christian language.
I very much doubt your last sentence if you see Trump as your champion.

Trump's not my champion, though I genuinely like the man, he's the man who ran for office on a platform I could get behind.

I'm a big supporter of Trump's policies in action. Economics were good, increase in real wages and more jobs, that's important for people. Low inflation. No new wars. Secure borders, some good trade deals.

The left has nothing real to criticize Trump on, or what they think is evil I do call good.

I really don't care about Trump's private life and I don't do gossips, I am looking for someone who can lead as President of the United States - not a popularity contest it's a skills contest. His skills are what wins the day, though he's genuinely funny and has a good personality.

Trump has proven he has the skills and so far his government ideals are in line with my own.

I don't want WW3. I do want an end to unnecessary wars. I don't want to see my fellow Americans stepped over to serve your enemies etc. etc.

As far as my faith I've only been Christian since 2014, I have given my testimony on the forum many times and I'm sure everyone knows it by now.

But I'll give it once more, I'm an American citizen born here, former Muslim who does love Christ enough to follow Him the best a disabled woman can.

I love Christ. Your free to question it but my faith didn't come easy or cheap, so I'm pretty firm in it. That's likely what makes me come off very differently than others. I do have a certainty in my faith.

 

[Hazelelponi]

• Paychecks grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 8.4% after inflation.
• The economy lost 2.7 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1.7 percentage points to 6.4%.
• The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 36.3% from 2016.

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Trump's Final Numbers - FactCheck.org

Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office.

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And your silly chart has what to do with where faith intersects politics?

Just curious. We talk about the topic until there's a moment to knock Trump and Trump supporters...

People knock our faith, you knock our character, you knock the policies that benefited real Americans in real time and people the world over....

Let's face it you hate us as much as you hate Trump and there's no good reason for any of it.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Why would it?

What's the topic?

Of the thread what's the thread title and the OP outline for the topic we are discussing?

You knocked my faith, my character and my support of Trump in this thread.

I answered you and suddenly it's wage charts by biased sources? Seriously?

That's not the topic. You just insulted me for what? To debate wage charts?

 

[wing2000]

Jesus was crucified for proclaiming he is Lord.

....and what relevance does that have to a political event of man?

 

[lismore]

'Oh, you guys are at the wrong rally': Kamala Harris counters hecklers at La Crosse event

Vice President Kamala Harris tells hecklers in La Crosse they are at the wrong rally.

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Wrong rally.

Hello! By saying 'wrong rally' is she saying that Christians would be a better fit at the Trump rally?

God Bless You

 

[DaisyDay]

So you have a special ability where you can discern motives? Interesting.

It's called "normal cognitive ability".

 

[DaisyDay]

Hello! By saying 'wrong rally' is she saying that Christians would be a better fit at the Trump rally?

God Bless You

No. If that were what she was saying, then that is what she would have said. It's pretty simple. She clearly said that the hecklers belonged to the widdle rally down the street. It's not difficult, really, if you think.

 

[DaisyDay]

Why would you think that : Donald Trump Tells Crowd To "Knock the Crap Out Of" Hecklers

That's entirely different, you know, because he obviously loves Christians as demonstrated by his tear-gassing peaceful protestors (who had a lawful permit to protest in Lafayette Square) so he could hold a Bible up in front of a church. He also hawks bibles for profit.

 

[Hazelelponi]

No. If that were what she was saying, then that is what she would have said. It's pretty simple. She clearly said that the hecklers belonged to the widdle rally down the street. It's not difficult, really, if you think.

The "widdle" rally down the street was Trump's and its VERY clear to the"Christ is King" people where their people are since those shouts are cheered at MAGA events - we do love God on this side of the aisle.

However - it's also very clear that the shouts were shouted EXACTLY where they needed to be shouted, in the presence of those who needed to hear those words the most. They are clearly not going to church to hear them.

But your Caesar, she's shown her face.

 

[RDKirk]

So proclaiming Jesus is Lord is wrong and not good.

When Paul first arrived in Athens, he began to preach in the marketplace. When he was advised that it was the custom in Athens to confine philosophical expositions to the theater at Mars' Hill, he went there to continue.

Paul always preached where preaching was expected and authorized, or he rented space to do so. He never preached in places he wasn't authorized to preach.

 

[RDKirk]

Paul was beaten and stoned for being disruptive.

No, Paul was beaten and stoned because of the gospel he preached, not because he preached disruptively. Paul always preached where preaching was expected and he was authorized to do so.

 

[DaisyDay]

The "widdle" rally down the street was Trump's

Yep

and its VERY clear to the"Christ is King" people where their people are since those shouts are cheered at MAGA events - we do love God, however imperfectly we may be.

So the hecklers were Trump supporters disrupting her event, just as we've maintained. So many people manage to love God without behaving like jerks.. Most people who love God do not yell "Lies, lies, lies!" at events, then whine about persecution. Wrapping yourselves in flags while holding Bibles is not the glory you seem to think.

It's disgusting as it trivializes the very real persecution some Christians, who also love God, face.

A vote for Trump is a vote for the candidate chosen by God's children in America. A remnant from all of us are voting Trump.

A vote for Trump is a vote for an adjudicated rapist, a convicted criminal, a serial fraudster, a liar, a charity thief, an insurrectionist.

Trump voters are not the only children of God in America, by a long shot. It is ridiculously insular to imagine you are.

However - it's also very clear that the shouts were shouted EXACTLY where they needed to be shouted, in the presence of those who needed to hear those words the most. They are clearly not going to church to hear them.

Oh you are falsely accusing an entire rally of people of "clearly" not going to church? Of none of them being Christian like yourself?nThere are none so blind....

But your Caesar, she's shown her face.

A candidate of the people of American, all America. Harris is not the one to declare, "If I win you won't ever have to vote again" - that is your Caesar, your "dictator for a day".

 

[RDKirk]

Paul was beaten for what was considered causing a disturbance. The word in question is ektarassó Usage: I disturb.

If you're speaking of the incident in Philippi, notice that Paul actually went to the riverside outside where it was expected that Godfearers might be worshipping. There is a specific historical chain of events to why there was no Jewish synagogue in Philippi. Paul had never preached in public within the city, but a demon speaking through an unfortunate woman "spilled the beans" on Paul being a Jew in a city where Caesar Claudius had forbidden Jews.

 

[lismore]

Paul always preached where preaching was expected and he was authorized to do so.

Hello! A difference being that Athens was a pagan city, but candidate Harris is presenting herself as a follower of Jesus Christ.

Another example could be in the Pagan city of Nineveh, Jonah was authorized to preach, not by Ninevites but by Almighty God. Truth is already authorized.

Perhaps the Lord instructed this gentleman to say 'Jesus is Lord' at the rally so that candidate Harris's true colours would shine through and that any Christian considering voting for her would be without excuse.

God Bless You

 

[Hazelelponi]

No, Paul was beaten and stoned because of the gospel he preached, not because he preached disruptively. Paul always preached where preaching was expected and he was authorized to do so.

Paul was told time and again to stop preaching and he never did.

He always preached in the public square, and in 2024 there's no more public a square than a political rally for in-person public.

Kamala Harris however, doesn't think her political rally is the place for people who shout the name of Jesus. They hadn't disrupted anything in 3 statements shouted by 2 different people.

The only disruption was by the speaker stopping to publicly mock them - a speaker seeking the highest office in the land - and then throwing them out of the event as they were assaulted by the crowd.

 

[Hazelelponi]

No, Paul was beaten and stoned because of the gospel he preached, not because he preached disruptively. Paul always preached where preaching was expected and he was authorized to do so.

As a besides, I think people who do things like saying "Christ is King" at rallies - it reminds the lost there's something else, something they need to check out more seriously.

I still remember my random people.. they make an impact... I give them more credit now than I once did.

 

[rambot]

If I went to a Trump rally and was disruptive, say by me doing the same thing, yelling "Jesus is Lord", and I got kicked out. Would you be just as upset?

Or would you apply a different standard?

Because I'm pretty confident I'd be kicked out of a Trump rally if I did that. I suspect the crowd would probably boo me too. To be 100% honest, I suspect that I'd be putting myself in danger if I did that.

-CryptoLutheran

I wonder if it would make a difference if you were in a harris/Biden or trump/Vance t-shirt..

Just kidding. It would make a monumental difference.

 

[rambot]

Paul was told time and again to stop preaching and he never did.

He always preached in the public square, and in 2024 there's no more public a square than a political rally for in-person public.

Well except for a literal public square.


And I daresay a political rally is as far from a public square as can be given the statistics and demographics being not representative of a random public space.

 

[Servus]

Conclusion; certain Christians are upset because someone proclaiming Jesus is Lord caused Harris to expose herself.